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chrisforbes21 01-Jul-12, 04:19	As the founder of this club I mentioned at the start that open minds and a good sense of humor. I missed something yesterday, I was raising money for Great Ormand Street hospital a kids hospital in London. This is an open forum free will and free minds it is not and I repeat a forum for slander or judgement on the other members. We are all intelligent lets keep it that way. Thanks for listening. Chris
riaannieman 01-Jul-12, 07:39	GameKnot rules and standards Ladies and gentlemen, please let us address some unpleasantness that has arisen in this club. Under the thread Quotations, I told you that I don't have quotes by famous people, just the two by my dad. He also taught me something else. Discuss issues, don't attack a person. I believe my father is a wise man, and in this instance, I believe he is correct. Let us adhere to the rules of GameKnot, and refrain from personal attacks on individuals, as stated in the rules and standards of Gameknot: COMMUNITY STANDARDS The following are the basic rules of conduct that govern player interaction and activity within GameKnot Online Chess site and forums. Failure to act responsibly and comply with these rules may result in the suspension and/or termination of your account without any refund of any kind. Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger other players... [The] Club founder is the one responsible for everything that happens in the club (although the club founder can appoint moderators to help with maintaining the club). Any forum posts that violate GameKnot's Rules and Policies must be promptly deleted and an appropriate disciplinary action taken against the person who posted it (an official warning and/or removal from the club). If the offending post hasn't been deleted within 24 hours after the club founder and moderators were informed about it, the club forum will be closed for new posts... I enjoy the club and it's discussions. I don't want the club to be closed down. Please let's work together, and get the forum back to the way it was before. Please don't crucify me in a public forum, when I am of opinion that some remarks were personal attacks and deleted them. Rather contact me, and I will discuss the merits of your opinion and point of view. It is entirely possible that I am making a mistake; English is not my first language and I may misunderstand your statement. I will admit it if I make a mistake. How about it? Can we work together and enjoy this club? I will like to try.
mrmarmalade 01-Jul-12, 07:47	NO thanks... Goodbye to this club, Mr. Policeman Moderator.
mistee 01-Jul-12, 09:05	I'm on board! I love this club and this site and all that they give me. I have also enjoyed meeting everyone I've had the pleasure of communicating with on here. The people in this club are all such amazing and interesting people and I appreciate every one of you. I do hate reading unnecessary personal attacks so I trust the moderators to use their discretion in deleting posts. It's logical that on an international forum, things may be taken wrong. I hope if I ever offend any of you that you will please let me know immediately. It's never my intention to do that. But..... I do LOVE a good healthy debate! Let's just have fun. Mistee
sad_but_true 01-Jul-12, 17:36	Deleted by sad_but_true on 01-Jul-12, 22:11.
hippy41 01-Jul-12, 18:24	It's time to reflect and ponder Don't know what happened. Can't determine how this all came about. Lost some friends along the way. Would be nice to know what the conflict was about? Hippy
shamash 01-Jul-12, 20:00	the woman and the scorpion -- A Moral Parable from India Nobel Laureate Carl Gajdusek used to say, "Puzzles have answers, but mysteries don't." But majoring in physics accustomed me to finding answers to explain every phenomenon in nature -- even the puzzling braiding of the "F"-Ring of Saturn -- everything but the question, "Why?" That is a realm for our storytellers (one of the very best at illuminating the mysteries of human behavior being Southern novelist Flannery O'Connor). Was myself mystified by the emotional eruptions in our Clubroom yesterday -- several of them by a man I had befriended on repeated occasions -- only to be suddenly, unexplainably, and viciously stalked & attacked here. And then I recalled a timeless parable told by one of the Swamis of India: <<<==========+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+==========>>> A woman goes down to the seashore. She sees that a wave coming up the shore will carry away a scorpion, into the sea. She reaches down and rescues the scorpion. The scorpion stings her. She drops the scorpion. The next wave catches the scorpion, and it struggles not to drown. Once more the woman plucks the scorpion from the water. Once more the scorpion stings her. She drops the scorpion on the sand. Then another wave submerges it and begins to carry it away. The woman reaches down and again saves the scorpion -- And this time--- she asks the scorpion: "Each time you are drowning I rescue you, but you sting me: WHY?" And the scorpion answers: << It is in your nature to rescue me. And it is in mine, to sting you. >> And he stings her.
riaannieman 01-Jul-12, 21:58	It's time to reflect and ponder Hippy, it was unsavory. There were personal attacks on individuals. I was online and watched it unfold, but I typed too slowly to intervene (I was at an agricultural school, where boys did not have the option to learn to type; we learned to farm). I deleted several posts that caused offense, and reported everything to the club founder. I do not want to elaborate on the details and would rather forget the incident, but suffice to say that some individuals were slandered on this forum. When I took action, I was attacked as well. It seems that certain individuals left us because I took a stance against the offensive statements. We encourage free thinking, and I believe that everybody should express him/herself, but such personal attacks could not be tolerated. I had a look at the rules and GK can shut the club down if the moderators don't take action. I also did some research and found out that a certain person has a history of causing trouble on these forums and has been banned from a club before. I always aim to be objective when I make a decision, and I believe in this case I was. I analyze facts, test it, and come to a logical conclusion- I used to be an analyst for many years... As I said in my previous post here, let's follow the advice of my father and discuss issues and not attack persons. Maybe merits (or lack thereof) about a character can be discussed, but we should be careful and not cross the line.

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