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bc
Why do you take topics from other threads and reply to them here?
You were in those clubs and you opted out. If you want to discuss these things, you should actually be in the club where they are posted, don't you think?
Or, is it that you don't really want to discuss them, or hear the replies you might get?
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Because its my 1st amendment right to do so!!
the spectacle if a bunch of far-right-wingers patting themselves on there backs for there clever falsehoods and lies is very comical and somewhat sad. And i want as many people as i can see what a bunch of puppets they are. Sorry i mean nothing personal!! If you like this type of messaging you will love my new 'Debunktion Juncktion' thread which will appear whenever misinformation is posted. It is borrowed from a certain Liberal news anchor on MSNBC!!. Discussion is pointless!! you know that and i know that. I will fight fire with fire!!! Frankly i am disappointed at the rather 'unsophisticated' level of discourse in these 'hate' threads...Yours truly.....Janet
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BC
I was under the impression this club was for other than political posturing and preening. Are you sure you want to go there?
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being challenged is a bummer i know..but
it was the post about 'adding michele bachmann' to a list of smartest people in the world that started all this. Before that i spoke no politics. But it seems that you too posted quite a few political posts also.As well as other right leaning folk. You must understand; i hate seeing lies go unchallenged!!!. Plus its my '1st amendment right to say what i feel is right? Does this annoy you guys? It annoys me to read posts on other clubs that are so patently untrue! I feel i must speak out. Just like you..you speak out and call the other side 'liberals' as if it were a bad word. What would you have me do? From my prospective the Right has lost its way. My posts are NOT AIMED at individuals.They are aimed at undecided people that deserve to here the other side. Why are you boys whining and complaining? Nothing personal but you guys have to buck up or shut up(to borrow Robot Romney's words to H.Reid. Stand up for you beliefs.
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michelle
bachman
smart
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it "smarts" to think of her
but to think of her as "smart"
"smarter"?
"smartest?"
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bc
I do believe you are trying to quote my post in the Smartest Person thread, unless there was another. If so, this is my post:
"In the interest of keeping peace in the family, I nominate:
Golda Meir,
Condoleeza Rice,
Helen Keller,
Amelia Erhart,
and
Agent99 "
I did NOT mention Michelle Bachman. You got all in a huff because I mentioned Condoleeza Rice, who is very smart, very talented, quite well educated and has a lot of worldly experience... which you seem to be sorely lacking.
BTW... is it not my right to mention my opinions? Don't I get the same respect you demand? And, why is YOUR opinion correct but mine is wrong?
Shamash... you seem to be out of sorts here. That is not like you, or is it?
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If you would like to provoke a rebuttal you may want to get your facts straight first. What little 'facts' you have introduced have been thoroughly humiliated and shown to be in error. I'm of course referring to your strident if erroneous claim that there were no EO's issued by Obama as alluded to by another poster.
So far your other political posts have not been challenging in the least. They contain nothing but emotional platitudes and proclamations with no substance. We can discuss issues if you will but we should at least provide substance. Don't you agree?
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sorry i meant Condoleeza,
forgive me! i am very tired from the Mars landing and have not slept in three days. Please except my apologies. Please insert Mz Rice's name in place of MB. You have my respect,truly you do!! But certain things you and others have said have been untrue! Maybe you guys have been miss informed. I don't know. What would you have me do? Look at my post about the lawsuit filed by the administration. I see no attempt to take military early voting rights away!! Yet the right wing insists and spins it that way!! That's dishonest!!!! and that's just the tip of this whole untruthful iceberg. Again what would you have me do. Every day and every night i see misleading political posts!! Why is it OK for you guys to constantly insult Liberals and not OK for me to throw it right back in your faces??? Hopefully still your friend..Janet
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thumper.
No i don't agree.As to my 'little facts' i would rather have a few facts then be deluded by many lies!! There is nothing to discuss... unless perhaps your delusion can be cured. But i don't think that is possible, it is in you soul now like a sickness. I'm very sorry. Lets stop this back and forth. Neither of us will yield. When i see a falsehood posted i will debunk it. I;m sure a big tough guy like you can take it!! It will stop when The President is re-elected or Robot Romney is elected.
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So now you call me delusional and sick in my soul? How is saying that of me 'debunking' anything and not just a personal attack?
You keep saying things like;
"When i see a falsehood posted i will debunk it.", "i hate seeing lies go unchallenged!!!."
"Shame on them!!", "They send out talking points to the mindless zombie-like reprobates they call there base and repeat over and over", "My posts are NOT AIMED at individuals.", "There is nothing to discuss... unless perhaps your delusion can be cured." "I feel i must speak out."
And you think this challenging, fact filled debate material? I thought you more analytical than that.
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whatever....
as i said i'm done debating.Done arguing, now i will just debunk!! check out my newest about the hypocracy of robot romney's and the 'Reid busted post!! i guess you would not agree with this. After all the charge came from the right SO it has to be the truth!! Very astute reasoning.
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bencox1
08-Aug-12, 11:27
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Is this War???
I don't know... where this conversation is going but I would like to respond to the first post and stay close to topic.
brigadecommander I think that the road to economic recovery is not through legislature but through the natural coarse of the free market. If you take away the Federal Reserve and cut a whole pile of red tape then we can start to turn around and gain some treading. It is not the governments job to create jobs.
I agree with you about the Bush campaign and the false terrorist propaganda about "weapons of mass destruction" but Obama has only continued it farther than the Bush campaign. Look at the TSA and the invasion of privacy, the war in the middle east and Obamas broken promises that he would bring our troops home. Now on the upcoming election Romney is no better than either of them. We need someone that isn't going to make promises that he will forget after he is elected. I just hope that the majority of the American people realize it before it's too late.
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bencox1
the road to economic recovery is not through letting the free market do whatever it wants. Because they(BIG BUSINESS) have bribed the GOP. This allowed legislation to get through that tilts the playing field in there favor. This is not fair!! The GOP is a bunch of crooks!! Romney is the biggest crook i ever saw!!!.You believe what you want and i will do the same. There is no use arguing any more. The electorate will decide this. Now iF Ron Paul was in the race i might have to ponder that!! But Robot Romney ?? NEVER
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When Romney is elected, I'd like to see him pull Ron Paul in as adviser.
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When President Obama is re-elected i would like to see him pull Ron Paul in as an adviser!!!
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bencox1
08-Aug-12, 13:27
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Corporatism
brigadecommander I agree with you that bribes and legislation for big businesses are not right but in a true free market everyone is on a level playing field and nobody gets bailed out. In my previous post I said that free market policies and cutting the red tape are first in restoring prosperity but I failed to mention that we first need to level the playing field and restore "true" free market in America by cutting the red tape and not bailing out companies who have gone bankrupt. The system that is in place now will only end in ruin because the big corporate buisnesses and the strict regulations are choking out smaller private buisnesses and destroying jobs for the American people. www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com Ron Paul is in the race, he's not out yet.
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Sorry but...
There has to be checks and balances in Govt and business. Some humans are very very greedy. The system you advocate will end in Oligarchy.en.wikipedia.org
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bencox1
08-Aug-12, 14:00
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Oligarchy
brigadecommander Are you suggesting that the if free markets and less regulatory measures are taken then an Oligarchy will arise. I think that a form of oligarchy has arisen and is prevalent in America today. (Expert from your link)
"Corporatocracy
Corporate oligarchy (Corporatocracy) is a form of power, governmental or operational, where such power effectively rests with a small, elite group of inside individuals, sometimes from a small group of educational institutions, or influential economic entities or devices, such as banks, commercial entities, lobbyists that act in complicity with, or at the whim of the oligarchy, often with little or no regard for constitutionally protected prerogative. Monopolies are sometimes granted to state-controlled entities, such as the Royal Charter granted to the East India Company, or privileged bargaining rights to unions (labor monopolies) with very partisan political interests."
This Corporatocracy which is being described is the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is "a small, elite group of inside individuals" who are not elected and are not Government officials. The Federal Reserve is a group of "banks" that work together and they do not have any authority which stands to 'check' or limit the amount of power that they have to print money.
As I was saying Corporatism which is 'The control of a state or organization by large interest groups.' Or Oligarchy which is 'A small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution.' Corporatocracy is the merging of the two ideas into one.
The main point is that the system we have is corrupt and we are going to have to replace it with a free market economy with no big businesses having any political leverage and removing the Federal Reserve and replacing it with nothing.
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sorry but....
you got you list wrong. The Federal Reserve is not the problem.The problem is Cooperate interests and bribed GOP Senators and Congressmen. Plain and simple. 1st step; vote the GOP out into the political wilderness
2nd ;Remove the corporate money from the election system. Make it public financed.
3rd and most important; Send Glen Beck,M.Bachmann, and Rush Limbaugh to Burma!!(Myanmar) As for FOXNEWS i suggest sending these fools all to Mars. The big oil, Pharmas,and Insurance industries are spending billions just so 'you' get your list wrong.Wake up!!!
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Thumper
I'll bet ya a buck that BC went to public school and graduated within the last few years. You don't suppose it was zorro's school, do you? Probably DM's school... they're probably related!
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Hmmm
You may be onto something there. Many of their posts do seem to be interchangeable and/or indistinguishable. One way to tell the difference though is Jeff doesn't use caps and DM doesn't use paragraphs. Other than that, content is the same. It is amazing how many people who fancy themselves as freethinkers actually think alike.
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bencox1
09-Aug-12, 05:44
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brigadecommander The real problem is the Federal Reserve. Don't get me wrong the 'Cooperate interests and bribed GOP Senators and Congressmen' are just as guilty but the problem stems from the Federal Reserve. If you control the money you can control people. It is the big wall street bankers that fund all of the corrupt politicians. gulagbound.com Wall street gets bailed out by the government and the government gets the money from the Federal Reserve. seekingalpha.com
It is a long line of corruption that stem from the money supply. If you cut of the money supply then some of our problems are gone. Granted we still have to elect new politicians to replace those who are not filling their constitutional role. If we don't End the Fed then the new politicians will come in and will be swayed by more bribes and it will continue on.
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the problem is not the federal reserve..
The problem is that we have a Corrupt GOP. Bought and paid for by Cooperate interests. I will not mince words!! The big Pharmaceuticals and big oil and big Insurance and the Military industrial complex AND WALL STREET are pouring billions into 'dumbing down' the electorate and Bribing the GOP. If the Democrats had control of both houses of Congress and the executive BRANCH, they too would become corrupt. That is the nature of power and Human nature. So therefor we need checks and balances and we need to remove the corrupting influence of money between Congress and big Business. After the recent ruling by the right-leaning Supreme court(citizens united) the task is now far more difficult. But not impossible.
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