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 sci fi in 2012Scientifically the main point of the 2012 doomsday people is that the earth becomes central to the milky way and some solar storm will hit the earth that has a major fluctuation in our environment. There is people discussing polar shifts and an end of days or a war between good and evil played out on planet earth. I find it all a bit far fetched but lets not get the facts get in the way of a good debate. There is practically no scientific rational behind a milky way solar ray hitting the earth or a solar shift. Ask any decent astronomer or geologist. There has been loads of doomsday theories throughout history and I think this will always be the way. I think the fear factor and thinking of who we are in this universe will always through up this type of thought. For example the anti-Christ was meant to arrive in 2000, but if you look through history lots have people have predicted end of days for the last 1000 years. I am not an absolutist, I am a pragmatist. As someone that is involved in trading I do think we should look at the finite resources we have and try to think about long term solutions for the future of our children and grandchildren and the generations that follow them. We live in the world today and by our actions we create a legacy and I think we can create a great or a very bad legacy. I am not a fan of bureaucracy or creating a world of what tells people what to do or how to thing for the greater good, I would rather have a world of free thinkers than conformists. I am also a fan of saving other species that have has much right to be on this planet as us. There is a balance that humankind must learn to juggle otherwise this sci-fi stuff of 2012 might actually become reality, not now or in the form of some cosmic ray or solar shift but in destruction of our earth. To clarify I mean this in terms of the soil, the food, the water, the philosophy of who we are and how we should behave on our mother earth. We have a wonderful world full of wonderful people we also have a lot of selfish people who do not care about future generations. It is our legacy. The question is by our actions who will we become or how our legacy will be judged. |
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I saw a joke in the paper recently Me, I don't believe the world is going to end soon. Maybe BC can assist me here, but when one looks at our galaxy edge on, the star systems 'wobble' through a plane that is filled with debris. This debris contains pieces of junk that are big enough to create havoc- an extinction event, if you will. If I remember correctly, we are now on the 'upwards' wobble, and expected to go through that plane with the debris in another couple of hundred or thousand of years. We just returned from the bottom extreme of the wobble. Apparently, when one looks at the intervals between the catastrophic meteor or asteroid hits throughout history, the time intervals coincide with the times when our star system goes through the center of this debris plane. Our star system spends several thousands of years in this zone, so eventually the chances of a hit just becomes so big that it usually will happen- we just can't 'dodge' so much debris for long enough to get through the zone unscathed. So don't worry yet. It is our descendents who will have to get out of the way, not us. Not to say some spiteful rock will appear out of the black and wipe us out unexpectedly, but the real danger zone is still hundreds if not thousands of years away. I have found all the doomsday prophets a nice chuckle as I grew up; there were at least eight serious such doomsday events predicted during my life. What I do find hilarious is that people gather tinned food, water and batteries for such events.... to what purpose? I even know a family that are still eating baked beans from the year 2 000. They decided that it is easier not to worry about it and let nature run it's course. If we die, well, that's it. If we don't, they will not have to eat 5 000 tins of baked beans and corned beef..... |
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Thumper The most immediate point is, that this happens far more often than a major impact from space does. It is not an extinction event, but it does cause major disruption and change. If I were a doomsday prophet, I would work out the next event and prophecy about it. That is something that is scientifically predictable. If it eventually turns out to be true, a new religion may be born. It has been some time since I read the book The story of Earth and life, but if I remember correctly this migrations happens approximately every twelve thousand years or so. We have less than 3 000 years to go before the next migration. |
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Yes it's true Chris I've also read somewhere that Africa and South America are moving away from each other at the rate of just less than 2 centimeters a year, just to illustrate how slowly plate tectonics do take place. If I remember correctly, Mount Everest is still growing higher as well, at a similar rate per decade, because India is still impacting with the rest of Asia. That is what I mean when I say that the tectonic plates move in a direction, and to change that direction must have a catastrophic, or at least spectacular, conclusion, even if the conclusion is too slow for a single human to observe in his lifetime. The fact still stands that such a momentous event such as the migration of the earth axis, or polar shift, will inevitably and eventually result in various earth tremors, volcanoes, and eventually climate change. Massive floods will also be part of the disruption of life as we know it, if only because ice caps will melt faster than new ice caps can grow. Another factor that will create floods is the upheaval of some seabeds, while most continents will sink at least a little. The most stable continent in that regard is Africa, and even she will be changed beyond recognition. I agree that this is a most interesting subject. It is well researched and there are various opinions on a range of topics in this discipline, one of which is the migration of the earth axis. Problem is, without documented proof, a lot is still theory and speculation. It is noteworthy that during the 1950's and 1960's several noted archeologists scoffed the idea of plate tectonics, and only when the proof emerged did some of the skeptics change their point of view, while others still clung to the old idea that continents are stable and never move. Until we have definitive answers to many theories and questions, opinions will be divided. I am glad that you raised the opposite point of view of the polar shift, Chris; Thumper can now read some more, and then make up his own mind what is the truth. Once again I will also rely on the input of others with more knowledge and experience in this field, who can enlighten all of us. |
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Sorry, just want to add My English is inadequate to express clearly what I am thinking. The polar shift in conjunction with various other events and factors moved the land masses to where they are now. Is that clear? Tectonic movement in not solely dependent on one thing. It is an intricate series of happenings that cause it, all interlocked and dependent on each other to continue the conveyor belt on which the continents move. |
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jonheck 13-Dec-12, 07:56 |
New member-Jon A double egg Peace-at least in my Son's time. Jon |
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hey Jon |
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jonheck 13-Dec-12, 09:19 |
Wobble Jon |
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