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chrisforbes21
28-Feb-13, 14:29

horses for courses
Quite literally, we've had some great fun with some puns with my friends on horse-meat being sold as beef but it actually raises the bigger question.

What goes into our food. Whenever possible about 2 years ago I stopped eating processed food. Its not just the sugar and salt content its the chemicals used for flavour and preservatives. I know that in America they use steroids in livestock to make them grow faster that's why its banned in Europe. www.preventcancer.com

The thing is unless you work in the food industry any pre-packed or processed food products we are buying off the shelf's we have no real idea what's in them. Its clear that there is very little testing once products are approved. The food like the pharma industry waves a big stick that is for profit and very little to do with human health. The last 60 years so much has changed but these changes take time to show the effects so we won't see the impact of what we are eating now for another 20-30 years.

It may have no effect but I doubt all these chemicals can be good. So before buying that tasty pre-packed food ask what am I buying, besides it never looks as good in practice as it does on the packet and there is nothing better tasting than food cooked with fresh ingrediants made yourself.

softaire
28-Feb-13, 20:40

Chris
Oh, I dunno about that.

There really is nothing better than some "Ham & Lima beans" C-Rations or "Processed Pork" in glutamate. You have not eaten "tasty" until you have tried "Spaghetti" in processed salt preservatives. Yum... yum...
chrisforbes21
28-Feb-13, 23:44

Salt
Hi Softie,

Is that not the spaghetti but the salt that is tasty. Its a bit like not having sugar in your coffee, at first you think its bland and lacking taste but after a while you never really go back. I don't advocate cutting out all salt and sugar but I don't like being lied too, ie sold one thing when it is another.

In the UK in pre packed supermarket "salads" there can be up to 4 grams of sugar and salt added. Its pretty shocking when something labelled as a healthy salad can be worse than a big mac, if I want to be unhealthy I'll have the burger  
thumper
01-Mar-13, 00:11

I think he was being a little tongue-in-cheek Chris. (Joking)
chrisforbes21
01-Mar-13, 00:22

serious mode vs light hearted
Sorry I didn't realise he was horsing around. Sometimes I don't see if a discussion is going each way, I see it as a furlong conversation.

Hopefully I will be a bit more chivalrous going forward and won't set off so quickly and can have a more stable conversation that doesn't include analogies with the salads.

www.bbc.co.uk
softaire
01-Mar-13, 09:23

Chris
My apologies... It is really more of an inside joke and only those who have been in the U.S. military and have eaten "C" rations would know how truly awful they are.

They are SO bad, that you don't mind going three days without eating. Normally, after three days without eating, when you do get resupplied, you'd eat it all down all at once. But, when it was "C" rations, you'd first drop some on the ground to see if any of the insects would eat it, and if they did, you'd watch to see if they survive!

(I get to be "funny" with military chow because I have been there/done that)

Sorry to derail the thread and, of course, you are correct about the chemicals etc.
chrisforbes21
02-Mar-13, 03:16

no way
They fed you that, how awful, makes you want to resort to SAS survival tactics and live off the land. So basically they will give you equipment worth thousands or millions to make war with and feed you meals worth 50c. Hmm priorities a bit mixed up.
thumper
02-Mar-13, 09:34

Indestructible food
I don't know, I grew up eating whatever was arguably edible. I thought 'C' rats were OK, even though they were Softies hand-me-downs. If you could scrounge up a snake or lizard or something, you had a pretty good meal going, complete with hot sauce and an after dinner smoke. You guys are just too picky.
chrisforbes21
02-Mar-13, 10:52

its all a bit crocodile Dundee
Yeah you can eat it but it tastes like .....
softaire
02-Mar-13, 11:21

I've got a better story than that...
It was one of those three days without resupply because we are up in the mountains and the fog is so thick you can barely see your hand in front of your face and the helicopters were not flying.

We're all "starving" (actually just hungry) and sitting around saying things like: "My mom makes the best roast beef, with mashed potatoes..." or "My girlfriend makes the best apple pie..." etc. etc.

So, finally this one skinny kid from the Ozarks says: "let's do what we do at home!. Let's make "Root Soup".

He tells us to follow him and he finds some plant and pulls it out of the ground. It has a kinda white, bulb-looking thing at the bottom and he says "Find a bunch of these and we'll boil them and make soup. They'll be great".

So, we spend 1/2 hr. searching for just the right plants and finally had enough to nearly fill some guys helmet. We beat the dirt of these bulb-looking things, threw in some water and then used ALL of our little heat-tabs trying to make the water boil. (it never did, but sure did scorch that helmet)

Finally, it was taste time. We all took a sip. It was the most bitterest, God-Awful taste you can imagine.

We dumped it out and proceeded to beat and kick this poor kid silly.
chrisforbes21
02-Mar-13, 12:38

Root Soup
God that kid must have been really poor if he ate that back home!!
chrisforbes21
03-Mar-13, 18:05

horses for courses
3 days without food I think I would have eaten root soup, thats the difference, why a western nation can never win in Afghanistan, its all a bit Apocalypse now
softaire
03-Mar-13, 20:11

Actually I don't remember three days without food as being all that bad. The first day or two was bad, but I think by the third day we weren't so hungry as we were bored and just sat around talking about food.

I think the expectation of good hot "home made" soup was the thing that got us going and thinking we were really going to eat. If you think about it (if we had really thought about it) there is NO way that soup would have been any good.

And, we didn't really beat that kid... too badly. But I remember everybody was pretty mad because we used up all our heat tabs.

And, we survived until resupply just fine. Just another funny story.
thumper
03-Mar-13, 21:23

My uncle was telling me a story about throwing 'C' rats out of his chopper...
He was a Marine door gunner in '68 on a UH-1 (Huey) and on one mission they were lifting off from a hot LZ during an extraction when he ran out of ammo for his M-60. Thinking fast, he started throwing full 'C' rat cans down at the VC shooting at them. They must have thought he was throwing grenades or something because they started ducking and running for cover. It worked, they got the guys out of there with no further trouble. He did catch a lot of ribbing for resupplying the VC though.
chrisforbes21
05-Mar-13, 10:27

bit of Barry
your nam stories are cool, love this song

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