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mrmarmalade
14-Dec-12, 21:36

Much love...
For those wasted sweeties in Connecticut... It's apparent that our newest generation of pansies cannot tolerate the idea of failure... Gotta take out the babies too before doing the deed.

It's not worth talking sometimes... The time to stop being tolerant has been upon us for some time.

Nite y'all.
chilliman
14-Dec-12, 23:08

this is one of the saddest things I've ever heard of. I cannot believe someone could do this to innocent children. my thoughts and prayers go out to everyone touched by this terrible tragedy.
kneilca2
15-Dec-12, 06:28

It is a senseless tragedy! A family from Wpg recently moved back to the States. One of their daughters was one of the victims. Since the father taught music (jazz) at the University of Manitoba, he is well known in the jazz community. WInnipeg is like a small town in many respects and even this far away, we are painfully touched. How many more mass shootings before the American attitude on guns changes?
mrmarmalade
15-Dec-12, 11:06

Kneilca... I'm much more worried about compassion than firearms... Much more worried about kids feeling entitled than firearms... Much more worried about the internet/television than firearms... Too many are so desensitized that it's going to take a firearm to blast them to their senses.
pennsylvaniadan
15-Dec-12, 14:49

It's not the guns that are the problem---it's usually the mentally disturbed that slip through the cracks of society. For someone to open fire on children or anyone for that matter, can't be all there (religious zealots not included). When you aren't safe in schools, churches, malls, theaters, or army bases, you aren't safe anywhere. Perhaps the doomsday preppers have got the right idea----Oh Boy-----
chilliman
15-Dec-12, 15:06

Dan I have a different take on it.

I don't think they're so mentally disturbed, as they know to take their own lives afterwards to escape punishment. they carefully select defenseless targets - why don't they go to military bases or police stations and try this? if they did then that would prove to me that they are mentally disturbed.

either way I don't think it possible for rational people to understand what motivates these cowards to do what they do.
kneilca2
15-Dec-12, 17:31

Still... a senseless tragedy and far too common.
johnclark
15-Dec-12, 19:52

Well, here in the US we have about 89 guns for every 100 citizens or 270 million guns held by civilians. Britain, on the other hand, has about 6 guns per 100 civilians. Take a guess at which of the two countries had 41 gun related homicides in 2011 and which had 9,146.

We're keeping the gun industry profitable.

blogs.kqed.org
sad_but_true
16-Dec-12, 03:37

One very wise Man .. Beautifully said
TURN OFF THE NEWS.......

Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened yesterday :

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.
...
It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."
kneilca2
16-Dec-12, 08:54

Here is the Canadian perspective: www.cbc.ca
kneilca2
16-Dec-12, 09:05

The worst shooting massacre in Canada was at École Polytechnique in Montreal on Dec 6, 1989. This day is still remembered across Canada. The victims' names are on a plaque outside of the school and although not as well known as the perpetrator's, are known.
Victims

Geneviève Bergeron (born 1968), civil engineering student
Hélène Colgan (born 1966), mechanical engineering student
Nathalie Croteau (born 1966), mechanical engineering student
Barbara Daigneault (born 1967), mechanical engineering student
Anne-Marie Edward (born 1968), chemical engineering student
Maud Haviernick (born 1960), materials engineering student
Maryse Laganière (born 1964), budget clerk in the École Polytechnique's finance department
Maryse Leclair (born 1966), materials engineering student
Anne-Marie Lemay (born 1967), mechanical engineering student
Sonia Pelletier (born 1961), mechanical engineering student
Michèle Richard (born 1968), materials engineering student
Annie St-Arneault (born 1966), mechanical engineering student
Annie Turcotte (born 1969), materials engineering student
Barbara Klucznik-Widajewicz (born 1958), nursing student
kneilca2
16-Dec-12, 12:53

Ana Marquez-Greene
The music community, the University of Manitoba, jazz musicians across Canada and my son will remember Jimmy Greene's daughter, Ana Marquez-Greene, 6, victim of the Sandy Hook massacre. There's a name to remember. The shock and horror on his face to learn that his saxophone mentor had lost his little girl that way is an image I think will stay with me.
kneilca2
16-Dec-12, 13:16

The American perspective
www.nytimes.com

Well-written and thoughtful article.



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