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dmaestro 09-Nov-12, 17:53 |
 Hannity "Evolves" on ImmigrationThe whole issue was always nonsense, pandering to a racist tea party base. Law abiding Hispanics already here need a path to citizenship, not "self deportation". Improve border security but give them a path to citizenship, it is the right thing to do. End the stranglehold of the stonewalling tea party and get 'er done. I wonder if any of the righties here will take the plunge and "evolve" as well... ================================================= Hannity's immigration evolution draws praise from conservative Latino group By MACKENZIE WEINGER | 11/9/12 Sean Hannity’s announcement that he has “evolved” on immigration is drawing praise from a conservative Latino organization. Alfonso Aguilar, executive director of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles, on Friday applauded Hannity for telling his radio listeners he now supports a pathway to citizenship for those in the United States without criminal records. “Sean Hannity has taken a bold step and conservatives are behind him. It is time to allow the market — rather than a bureaucratic federal government — to determine our immigration policy,” Aguilar said, according to a press release. “The tidal wave of support for real reform is growing,” Aguilar said. “There is a growing momentum within the conservative movement to embrace a market-based immigration plan that is in line with Ronald Reagan, who said it best: ‘No regulation or law should be allowed if it results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters,’” Aguilar noted. In the wake of the GOP's failure to attract the Latino vote in the 2012 election, Hannity on Thursday said the United States needs to “get rid of the immigration issue altogether.” “I think you control the border first," he said. "You create a pathway for those people that are here — you don’t say you’ve got to go home. And that is a position that I’ve evolved on. Because, you know what, it’s got to be resolved." =================================== |
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illinawek 09-Nov-12, 20:54 |
Things like this are why I no longer vote Republican. I can't stand the hypocrisy. I predict that when the fiscal cliff comes along with its cuts to defense and popular programs, they will do an about face on the deficit also. |
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dmaestro 09-Nov-12, 21:00 |
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illi I imagine then you don't read the newspapers, don't watch mainstream media TV, and don't go to most left-wing web sites either. |
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dmaestro 10-Nov-12, 08:25 |
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dm I have never yet advocated for forced deportation. I have always advocated for enforcing our laws. I have said that if we penalized employers for hiring illegal aliens and if we forced employers to use "e-verify", then the problem would go away by itself. Since we have already tried amnesty (in about 1985) and it didn't work, I have also advocated completing the border security fence. NONE of that says I advocate for forced deportation. (I certainly do not want to pay for that). And, NO I have not evolved to support a path to citizenship. I do support a case by case review of people who are here illegally and a decision made to allow them to stay, if it can be proven they contribute to the country. However, based on the efficiency of the federal government, I doubt that would work. Anyway, BO would just tell the INS to ignore it and let them stay anyway. |
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dmaestro 10-Nov-12, 12:17 |
"According to current figures from Immigration and Customs Enforcement -- the federal agency responsible for deportations -- Obama has removed 1.4 million people during his 42 months in office so far. Technically, that's fewer than under George W. Bush, whose cumulative total was 2 million. But Bush’s number covers eight full years, which doesn’t allow an apples-to-apples comparison. If you instead compare the two presidents’ monthly averages, it works out to 32,886 for Obama and 20,964 for Bush, putting Obama clearly in the lead. Bill Clinton is far behind with 869,676 total and 9,059 per month. All previous occupants of the White House going back to 1892 fell well short of the level of the three most recent presidents. We wondered whether there might have been a surge of undocumented immigrants that explained the increase, but there wasn’t. During the first two years of Obama’s tenure, the Pew Hispanic Center estimated the illegal immigrant population nationwide at 11.2 million, compared to an average during Bush’s eight-year tenure of 10.6 million. And illegal immigration actually peaked late in Bush’s second term, at which point the recession hit and the numbers declined under Obama. Such patterns do not explain the 57 percent bump in monthly deportations that we found under Obama." But he IS deferring the deportation of those who would make good citizens. A majority of Americans favor the DREAM Act, which is being stonewalled by right wingers. Since these right wingers are abusing the system to deny Immigrants their human rights, Obama is using his powers to protect them from the abuse by deferring deportation until we can break your stonewalling tactics. I suspect the GOP leadership will evolve and will begin to cut you tea party guys loose as they continue to lose elections on a national scale. You tea party guys are so gullible and simplistic. Most undocumented immigrants arrive legally and simply over stay their visa and merge into the culture where they assimilate and are protected. Many of us do not agree with you and will resist. A fence will not solve the problem. It is just red meat for the tea party. We need immigration reform. Sorry you can't evolve yet. |
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illinawek 11-Nov-12, 04:22 |
We have a Law and the Law tells us what to do. We are supposed to find illegals and deport them. We are supposed to punish employers that hire them. If the Law is impracticable because we can not follow the Law, then the Law should be changed. We should not continue to have Laws that are not followed because it is not reasonable to follow them. Both parties need to sit down, decide what people we want in the Country, make a reasonable path for them to get here, and change the Law so they can do it. They ought to catch everyone else breaking the Law and deport them. The way things are now, where we have a de facto set of two citizens, one slave being taken advantage of (the illegals) and one free (the rest of us), is intolerable. |
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Illi (You'd make a good lawyer. You should think about doing that some day!) |
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illinawek 11-Nov-12, 10:59 |
A Judge took me aside last week, told me that the way I do my trials are the "standard" against which he judges the others. I've got to be the worst businessman ever. I'm a sucker for every sob-sister story out there. Oh well, no one is the complete package. If I had some clients who could pay me what they promised, I would have it made. |
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Illi ... |
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dmaestro 11-Nov-12, 11:53 |
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