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thumper
08-Mar-13, 21:41

Hunting regulations
“The other very important part of this bill is to ban large capacity ammunition feeding devices, those that hold more than 10 rounds. We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting ducks with more than three rounds. And yet it’s legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines."
-Dianne Feinstein
www.breitbart.com

So it's legal huh? But 'we' need to be limited to 10 rounds for what? Give the bad guys a sporting chance? What's the bad guy bag limit?
thumper
08-Mar-13, 22:11

It's no wonder the NRA caught wind of this guy. His videos are awesome (he's been making them for a while now) and he has the ability to communicate common sense ideas to people who are challenged in that regard. He just went on my 'favorite' list.

www.youtube.com
softaire
08-Mar-13, 22:18

Do you think it possible that I find this guy and convince him to run for the Senate to replace Diane Finestein from California?
tat3225
09-Mar-13, 10:28

Someone better get the D.C. sniper out of prison!!!
tat3225
09-Mar-13, 10:38

Is this how feinstein plans to deal with the overpopulation of illegal immigrants in California?
thumper
09-Mar-13, 11:41

Probably not Softie. He doesn't strike me as someone who suffers fools willingly or easily. If we got rid of all 50 then he may consider it.
thumper
09-Mar-13, 20:09

Standard magazine sizes:
AR 15 = 20-30 round
AK 47 = 30 round
AR 10 = 20 round
M1A = 20 round
HK 91 = 20 round
M1928 Thompson = 20

Highcap magazine sizes:
AR 15 = 50-100 round
AK 47 = 50 round
AR 10 = 50 round
M1A = 50 round
HK 91 = 50 round
M1928 Thompson = 50

So 'standard' size mags are legal to hunt with but 'highcaps' aren't?
thumper
11-Mar-13, 16:40

Getting back to Feinstein's 'Hunting humans' comment. I guess she was in fact telling the truth (though mixing up the subjects of the different meetings she goes to). She was just a bit disingenuous about who she considers it 'legal' to be doing the hunting. Beside the ammunition stores they already had (which was substantial), DHS just purchased a 'lot' more. Enough to sustain a hot war zone (comparable to the height of the Iraq war) in America for 20+ years. Or enough ammo for a radically increased and sustained 'target practice' regiment for a century.
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DHS To Purchase MORE Firearms As Arms Build-Up Intensifies
Forbes asks if huge ammo buys should become “national conversation”

Paul Joseph Watson, Prison Planet.com, March 11, 2013

Just days after announcing a 5-year, $4.5 million contract with Heckler & Koch, the Department of Homeland Security has released details of an identical agreement with weapons manufacturer Sig Sauer, as Forbes publishes an article calling for a “national conversation” about the DHS arms build-up that has been dismissed by the media as a conspiracy theory.

A solicitation for a no bid contract posted on the Federal Business Opportunities website contains details of a DHS agreement with Sig Sauer to provide weapons parts under the remit of a $900,000 dollar a year contract set to run for five years.

The PDF document accompanying the solicitation is virtually identical to an agreement announced last week for Heckler & Koch to provide firearms replacement parts for the exact same fee and time period.

Despite our article drawing attention to the fact that the supposedly “redacted” figure of $4.5 million on the original agreement with Heckler & Koch was in fact visible, the same error appears in the Sig Sauer agreement, suggesting that only the name has been changed.

Although controversy surrounding the DHS’ purchase of some 2 billion rounds of ammunition has dominated concerns about the federal government’s apparent arms build up, the DHS also purchased 7,000 fully automatic assault rifles last September.

Despite the fact that some mainstream media outlets and leftist websites have tried to downplay concerns about the arms build up as paranoid conspiracy theories, the influential Forbes Magazine today features an article by Ralph Benko asking if the issue should become a “national conversation.”

“At the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending less than 6 million rounds a month. 1.6 billion rounds, therefore, would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years. In America,” states the article.

“Why, indeed, should the federal government not be deploying armored personnel carriers and stockpiling enough ammo for a 20-year war in the homeland? Because it’s wrong in every way,” writes Benko.

Not according to the likes of Media Matters, Huffington Post, the Atlantic Wire and others, all of which claimed the issue was “debunked” merely because a DHS spokesperson told the Associated Press that the ammo buys were made in bulk to “save money” on training bullets. As Benko points out, the federal agency has bought enough bullets to last for a century of target practice.

In reality, most of the bullets purchased by the agency are hollow point rounds, which are more expensive than standard training bullets and therefore unsuitable for target practice. Last week, former Marine Richard Mason told reporters with WHPTV News in Pennsylvania, “We never trained with hollow points, we didn’t even see hollow points my entire four and a half years in the Marine Corps.”

Those outlets reporting that the issue had been explained also failed to clarify how a single quotation from a representative of the very government agency being scrutinized could possibly mean that the matter had been adequately investigated and “debunked.”
www.prisonplanet.com



In WWII it took 10,000 rounds fired to inflict 1 enemy kill, during the Vietnam conflict it took about 87,000 rounds, in Iraq it takes 250,000 rounds, for current police tactics it takes approx 1,000 (per exposed nonmilitary 'civilian' target)

Extrapolating that info, here are the number of kills those 2 billion rounds would produce:
Iraq standards = 8,000
Vietnam standards = 22,988
WWII standards = 200,000
Police standards = 2,000,000
Now consider there are over 90 million current firearms owners in the U.S. holding over 300 million weapons and approximately 60 billion rounds of ammo. Firearms ownership could double, even triple without a single new firearm purchased. Using the pitiful 'Police standard' of 1,000/1, those 60 billion rounds would produce 60 million kills.

Different perspective on things, huh?... research is your friend...



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