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dmaestro
09-Sep-12, 22:03

A non-tea party republican
For those who don't seem to realize it, there still are non-tea party moderate republicans who appreciate Obama.

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Florida pizza shop owner powerlifts Obama

By Olivier Knox
White House Correspondent

Florida pizza shop owner Scott Van Duzer lifted President Barack Obama a solid foot off the ground in a bear hug during an unscripted stop at his Fort Pierce, Fla., store. Literally.

So what did the Secret Service think about Van Duzer — a registered Republican who says he'll vote for Obama in November — hoisting the president? "He said I was all right as long as I didn't take him away," Van Duzer told reporters.

Obama, wrapping up a two-day bus tour through Florida, dropped by the Big Apple Pizza & Pasta Restaurant for the kind of unannounced visit that breathes life into sometimes dreary campaign travel.

"Scott, what's going on, man," the president called as he arrived. "Let me tell you, you are like the biggest pizza shop owner I've ever seen."

"Everybody, look at these guns," Obama said as he chatted with Van Duzer, who is 6'3" and weighs 260 pounds. "If I eat your pizza will I look like that?"

"The two men laughed. They embraced. Van Duzer lifed Potus a good foot off the ground," according to the pool report filed by Politico's Reid Epstein (who is featured giving his best "gadzooks!" look on the far right in the picture below).

"Look at that!" Obama said upon his return to terra firma. "Man, are you a powerlifter or what?"

Well, yes. The pool report notes that Van Duzer later said he can bench press 350 pounds.

The pizza store he founded 16 years ago is the only place he's ever worked. And he has received commendations from the surgeon general's office for his work in encouraging blood donations. (Does he "encourage" with hugs?)

"I still wonder how he got these biceps," sad Obama. "But what we know is that the guy's just got a big heart along with big pecs. So we're very proud of him and we just want to say thank you for all the great work."

Van Duzer said he got 40-minutes' notice that the president was coming — and raced to his shop from the driving range. He told the pool that he is a "big political person" (Big. Yes.) and was "just overcome with excitement" — which led to the hug.

"I don't vote party line, I vote who I feel comfortable with, and I do feel extremely comfortable with him," said Van Duzer, who also voted for Obama in 2008.

news.yahoo.com
softaire
10-Sep-12, 07:29

This guy was so happy because BO had just exempted him from Obamacare.
proginoskes
10-Sep-12, 07:47

Well, it's not like most republicans are tea-partiers anyway. They probably represent about a 1/3 of the base. It's not clear to me why the guy love BO so much though. What's BO doing for Duzer?
deadofknight
10-Sep-12, 09:02

That was my question…

POTUS doesn't just pick random folks to visit very often…there is more here than we will hear from the media.
thumper
10-Sep-12, 09:27

It's an obvious attempt to make political hay. Just look at the elements of the 'story'. The small business owning Republican who 'doesn't vote party line' and will vote for Obama. This is the image they're trying to portray that all should follow. Unscripted? Right, and pigs fly.
zorroloco
10-Sep-12, 11:52

whatever
just political grandstanding. all parties do it. but, the point is that there are indeed republicans who support obama. just as there are dems who do not.

so what?
chaz5
10-Sep-12, 12:27

z ...
... but it always feels good to pounce on these kinds of tidbits ... just because. As you've said, the dems do it too. What surprises me, though, is how seriously some reps take this kind of theater during campaigning (dems do too). Just jousting for PR position d'jour.
astinkyfart
10-Sep-12, 14:01

Show
me a Republican that supports Obama...anywhere! The guy even says he doesn't follow party lines. Hes clearly an Independent!
zorroloco
10-Sep-12, 14:13

stinky
i know a couple. but as seattle republicans, they tend to be far more centrist than repubs on a national scale. they would be called rinos by the tea party - but they are true conservatives who despise the way the republican party has folded to the hijacking of the right wing extremists.
astinkyfart
10-Sep-12, 14:19

Jeff
Ummmm....ok? I love how you take a couple of Seattle "conservatives" and make them real conservatives because they are more centrist. They probably just need to switch parties.

If they are more centrist that Repubs on a "National Scale" then they aren't following party lines. Whats with the extremist stuff?? Is that all you have just calling conservatives extremist over and over? I rarely if ever do that crap. I Say liberal but I challenge you to find where I say liberal extremist? I strongly disagree with a lot of liberal views but I don't think they are extremist. Well, a lot of them aren't.  
illinawek
10-Sep-12, 14:30

If I met GWB, I would be happy to see him. Its about being polite.
astinkyfart
10-Sep-12, 14:32

Ill
That too. Good answer.
dmaestro
10-Sep-12, 14:33

The tea party is conservative in the same way its mccathyist predecessor was conservative. There are other valid conservatives who are more reasonable despite being dismissed as rinos.
zorroloco
10-Sep-12, 14:48

stinky
they are true conservatives because they are fiscal conservatives, do not demonize the left, and believe in conserving the environment. like teddy roosevelt and ike. not a faux conservative like mitt romney or gw bush who demonizes their opponents, want govt. intervention in people's private lives, and spend like there is no tomorrow.
zorroloco
10-Sep-12, 14:50

anway
the question was about republicans, and the 2 friends i spoke of are lifelong republicans who will not vote for romney because he does not represent their values. they will hold their nose and vote obama.

wasn't that the question? ok... maybe saying they support him is a bit strong, but voting for him is, in fact, supporting him.

i stand by what i said. you don't have to like it.
astinkyfart
10-Sep-12, 17:15

I havent
actually seen Mitt demonize the left. It is election time and I am sure I can come up with some nice quotes from the left.

I saw Romney on Meet the press or one of those morning shows. He actually did not demonize Obama at all. Even gave him credit for what he thought were some of his successes
thumper
10-Sep-12, 18:15

Stinky
So far my observations of the different factions' conduct are roughly the same. Romney's camp has been balanced and measured. Critical of shortcomings but willing to give due credit. Not so Obama's camp which seems to be making personal smears, mockery and innuendo as the cornerstone of their campaign.
dmaestro
10-Sep-12, 18:25

Unsurprisingly..
The reaction of the right to the now world famous pizza owner and registered republican van duzen was negative. Bad yelp reviews complaining about his politics, criticism on right wing media, allegations of staging, etc. If every republican agreed with the obama bashers there would be no need to call those who dont toe the line rinos.
astinkyfart
10-Sep-12, 19:00

DM
I could be wrong but that event seemed very staged to me. How excatly were other things about that negative?
dmaestro
10-Sep-12, 20:03

They were not rating his food, they were criticizing his support for obama. I cant prove it wasnt staged, but where is the evidence it was? Seemed like natural, good natured fun to me.
astinkyfart
10-Sep-12, 20:40

DM
You could be right. Not saying it was staged. Just saying in todays political world its easier to be negative. I do disagree that any conservative would vote for Obama tho. Then again could be wrong there too.
chaz5
10-Sep-12, 20:52

stinky ...
... I know many RINO-type conservatives who have been disenfranchised from the moving-right GOP (I know you disagree that this is happening in your view). They may or may not vote for Obama (they are not singing Obama's praises), but they seem to be not favoring Romney ... my impression is they may not vote at all or choose Obama in the end. Perhaps, as a mainstream Republican who has flowed with the party over the last decade, you may not see this right-movement as others who have not similarly flowed with the party. This does not mean these same folks are liberals at all (despite what so many conservative posters in these threads contend). Dm believes these RINO-types are certainly not a part of the Democrat party. Where do you think they belong ... left or right?
astinkyfart
11-Sep-12, 04:25

Chaz
IF they support whichever party willy nilly. IF they don't support the same ideas that most of the party represents they belong with the other party, plain and simple. This doesn't make them bad people but its kinda self explanatory.

I disagree that any conservative is voting for Obama. You may have a few republicans but no conservatives. That in my mind is an impossibility.
deadofknight
11-Sep-12, 04:35

Speaking of jumping ship….
Why Democrats, including me, are abandoning Obama
By Rob Taub
Published September 07, 2012

Obama: Ours is a 'future filled with hope'

I wrote an article last month for this website discussing how I – along with other Democrats and independents – might just cast our vote for Romney, although I didn't fully explain the rationale for the change. While I'm not claiming there is a new wave of supporters for Mitt Romney, there is no denying that there is a large number of disgruntled Democrats and independents who are dissatisfied with President Obama. And that may just be enough to elect Mitt Romney.
At this week's Democratic Convention, president Obama spoke of his many hopes and dreams for America. He has often said that he expects to leave a legacy of great achievements, like those of Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.
Kennedy was able to galvanize the nation not simply because he wanted to do so, but as a result of methodical campaigning and stumping that culminated with a cross-country trip in 1956, where he introduced himself to voters, delegates and politicians. Lyndon Johnson was able to pass numerous bills into law, not merely for the reason that they were morally right, but because he was a skilled politician who understood and accepted the workings of our political system.

JFK was a relentless and industrious campaigner. He came from a level of wealth and privilege that placed him at the top of the one percent of his day, yet instead of rejecting the mandatory campaign requirements of politicians of that era, he embraced the daily rigors of handshaking, personal visits and ward style politics, exploiting them further than anyone ever had before.
The president has a wonderful vision for America, but it's nothing more than a delusion that can't be achieved during a time of record – and climbing – deficits.
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Lyndon Johnson was the consummate politician who truly understood that the art of the deal was all about bipartisanship and he worked tirelessly to unite our country. It’s been said that while most men were content to read a book or watch a sporting event for recreation, Lyndon Johnson would follow the results of a local Texas school board election for fun. His love for politics was unflagging. That was his tennis.

President Obama is said to abhor the daily machinations of Washington politics. He refuses to miss more than two dinners a week with his daughters. He prefers not to meet with senators, congressmen or significant donors, yet he still expects to reap the benefits normally provided by those circumstances.
Obama snubbed the advice of George Soros (perhaps his wealthiest and most influential donor) and has alienated many other important supporters. What President Obama may perceive as altruistic is nothing more than intractable behavior along with a refusal to accept the reality of American politics and – ultimately – the basic job description of president of the United States.

Perhaps President Obama should consider that his dislike of Washington politics has contributed to the inertia and current stalemate that exists in Washington. He promised hope and change, but his current campaign is divisive with negative advertisements and driven by class warfare.
In Thursday night's convention address, President Obama reprised the same promises he made in 2008, again with no feasible suggestions of how to pay for them.
The president has a wonderful vision for America, but it's nothing more than a delusion that can't be achieved during a time of record – and climbing – deficits. Our government has built roads, bridges and schools that have educated us. However, it has also become a bloated money burning machine in desperate need of reform – a word that does not seem to exist in Obama's vocabulary.
Democrats are jumping ship because President Obama is offering nothing but blame for the previous administration and his own pipe dreams at a time when voters need some real assurance if they’re going to believe the economy can be saved. Unfortunately, speaking as one of those Democrats, I have little hope that President Obama will change.

illinawek
11-Sep-12, 05:02

Who is Rob Traub and how does he know so much about Obama's personal style? I don't believe a word of it.

Obama has been effective. Most of the criticism of him is due to the fact that people disagree with the legislaiton he has passed. The Health care legislation he passed was something first attempted by Harry Truman. Carter and Clinton both failed to get health care legislation passed.

Everyone except Rob Traub describes Obama as very likeable.

No other President before has had to contend with "tea party" yayhoos who think it would be a good idea for the USA to surrender its full faith and credit.

Even if Obama is a one term President, he has already cemented his legacy as a great President.

I don't think he will lose to Romney, because Romney offers nothing except assurances that we will go backward to where we were. Nobody who has a memory thinks that is a good idea.
zorroloco
11-Sep-12, 05:29

illi
spot on. negative nay sayers who would gladly throw the country under the bus to assuage their pathological hatred for president obama.

romney offers nothing but a return to trickle down bs economics. as i said elsewhere,

when obama took office, we were losing 300,000 jobs a week. now we are gaining jobs and have been for 30 months straight.

when obama took office, the stock market was crashing the hardest it has since the great depression. now it has recovered almost back to where it was.

when obama took office, the american auto industry was moribund. now it appears robust.

when obama took office, we were embroiled in two seemingly endless wars. now we are out of one and the other will be over by the end of 2014.

when obama took office, osama bin laden was a free man. now he is dead.

and that does not even mention such landmarks as the affordable care act, the lily ledbetter act, and more.

what is even funnier is that they argue out of both sides of their mouths. on the one hand, everything he does is socialist and bad for the country. on the other, he is always playing golf and is a do nothing president. they are like the man at the restaurant who complains: "this food is terrible. and the portions are way too small!'

and they do not even see the humor  


chaz5
11-Sep-12, 08:28

Stinky ...
... I respect your own definition of conservative; but, I believe there are numerous disenfranchised conservative (yes, conservative) Republicans who are not rallying behind either party or candidate. I understand too how you're defining conservative as party-loyal ... something I do not agree with ... "conservative" is not a party.



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