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dmaestro
15-Nov-12, 19:52
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 ROMNEY WAS UNFIT TO BE PRESIDENT- JOE SCARBOROUGH
Yes, Romney WAS unfit to be President. As Joe puts it, he really did need to just stay in La Jolla CA at his sea side mansion to oversee the building of his car elevator.
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Mitt Romney's post-election gaffe
By JOE SCARBOROUGH |
11/15/12
Mitt Romney proved again that in Washington, a gaffe is when you accidentally say something that you mean. He also showed why he was ideologically unfit to be the Republican nominee for president.
For Mr. Romney, the gaffe caught on camera and made public in September was that 47 percent of Americans are victims, grifters and thieves. And in a conference call with supporters on Wednesday, the former Massachusetts governor further exposed just how sheltered his life has been by explaining that these grifters were mostly minorities bought off with "gifts" from Barack Obama.
The conference call underlined what I have been saying for well over a year: that Mr. Romney has no idea what conservatism offers 100 percent of Americans who believe that freedom leads to prosperity and centralized planning is a road to serfdom. That message led Margaret Thatcher to an unlikely victory in 1979 and Ronald Reagan to a historical landslide a year later. And if Mr. Romney believes that message is no longer relevant to Hispanics and African-Americans, he should've stayed in La Jolla to oversee the building of his car elevator.
The future belongs to conservatism. It's time Republicans start electing leaders who actually believe it.
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anomalocaris
15-Nov-12, 20:05
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I dont like
many things about obama but I like Romney less and less as time goes by. He should not have made those comments.
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I find it interesting that, at least by what the media reports, every single Republican seems to be a total looser and an ass while every Democrat is found to be a great and awesome person. Funny how that works.
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... given the choices, I'm not sure I agree. As I have repeatedly said, I think the GOP could have presented a better, more contemporary candidate who would have appealed better to those voting ... and not just to tea party ultra rightists. We need to get back to more traditional conservatism (e.g., Ike, Buckley, Goldwater, Reagan, etc.) with a good take on the demographic pulse in today's population. 2014 will be telling; 2016 could see a rebound. It's just a cop-out to blame the media when the shortcomings stem from internal decisions. Even O'Reilly agrees!
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The media goes after republicans to pick them apart relentlessly. Any and all gaffs or comments that could or can be construed negatively, are. If none can be readily found, they go to work fishing, prodding and framing questions in such a way as to elicit a bonehead comment so it can be then crowed from the rooftops and they can start a new news cycle with that as the lead. Conversely, any damning comments or actions perpetrated by democrats are quietly swept under the rug or minimized to the best of their ability. Do you like being manipulated like that, or do you just consider it good journalism to ensure the 'right people' are treated properly?
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... perhaps you only see what you want to see.
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... perhaps people only see what the media wants them to see.
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... and for some that's true too. I see that for CNBC and I see it for Fox.
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It doesn't really matter now what Romney said or did not say, what he does or does not do. The election is over. The Dems won. This WAS the election of our life times. America is now officially over as a free Republic. It will not recover as we have passed the tipping point.
Americans have decided that money and things from government are more important to them than freedom and liberty. And, it's understandable that when you are receiving money and things from the government, you are hesitant to vote for a party that is perceived to want to take them away... even if it would be for a "good" reason like fiscal responsibility.
Between the biased press, the demonizing, the lies, and most importantly the huge increase in spending on welfare, food stamps, "free" insurance for medical care, "free" birth control and condoms for women's health, plus the promise of "free" citizenship for people who came here (or stayed here) illegally, the Dems bought the election.
It doesn't matter now (because nothing can really be done about it) that the policies that they are supporting for their "free" money and stuff are causing the country to go bankrupt and will forever ruin the business environment. Short term money & things have won out over responsible planning and actions.
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Softy ...
... if you're so pessimistic, what keeps you here? Surely there is somewhere in the World where you'd fit in.
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chaz
There are a lot of things that I enjoy including discussions here. I have mentioned many times that I learn a lot here, respect and learn about other viewpoints, and have even changed my mind about things because of conversations here.
I like presenting my arguments, making them better, and challenging others. I like to challenge you and your arguments but that is often times frustrating because you don't like to play the game and you rarely respond with a debatable argument. You rarely have unique and individual thoughts yourself, but I keep trying. Sometimes I get a gem from you.
I'm not pessimistic... I'm a realist. But, just because the Dems won doesn't mean my life is over. I'll make the best of it and carry-on.
Why are you still here?
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Softy ...
... that was a very thoughtful response. I'm floored ... one actually surfaces once in a while ... thank you! Y'know, you like to speculate, I usually don't. You often seem one-sided ... and I inevitably lean away from one-sided arguments if the other isn't forthcoming and/or willing to engage on a level playing field with mutually-agreeable terms of discussion. Sometimes, you conclude that I agree with dm or z just because I don't critique them like you, Stinky and Thumper do ... but they don't try to corner me when I am observing (or waiting to speculate); yet I do take odds with them more often than you prob'ly observe. No matter, amigo. I in fact do respect your willingness to participate even if I disagree.
I remain posting here because I learn ... which frustrates some folks, like you, when I ask questions for the purpose of understanding or gaining knowledge. Occasionally I'll point out inconsistencies. I don't try to teach. When I do present an argument, I do so to listen to two-sided responses before I embrace a valid opinion ... this may be irritating to some.
I remain in the US because the country is finally evolving in a way to take care of ALL its citizens including those who still want to come here. We must do this responsibly, however, and we simply must find responsible conservatives to assure level-headed management of these programs that seem to offend you so often. Where is Ike, Buckley, Goldwater, Reagan, when you need them?
I remain optimistic because that's healthy, and I am not particularly cynical nor fearful of what the future has to offer me or my children or my grandchildren. I will ask them questions too, to assure they can think on their own, but I won't use the words 'should' or 'you ought' or 'if I were you, I'd' ... within this process. And, I won't call them names, say they're stupid or wrong, or dismiss their views without a few poignant questions ... and I listen.
Life is good!
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dmaestro
16-Nov-12, 11:07
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Chaz exemplifies the signs of good modern business leadership skills needed for more complex businesses; e.g., listen to all povs, ask critical questions and question assumptions, strive for maximum consensus, focus on big picture and long range opportunities. Not all business experience is equal.
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anomalocaris
16-Nov-12, 15:25
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DM
I'm surprised that your ass kissing is so oblivious to chaz? He is a lefty now you can stop puckering
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Stinky ...
... left only by your own definition ... and that's all that matters.
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dmaestro
16-Nov-12, 16:34
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To me respect is a better description. He acts like a retired CEO. Some others here who claim such vast knowledge of business leadership show no evidence of it in their approach.
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dm
Your thinly veiled insults are pretty funny coming from you, especially based on your vast business experience. What is it that you do again?
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Softy ...
... I'm surprised you ignored my response post to yours.
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dmaestro
16-Nov-12, 17:13
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I am a light worker as I said. We work to bring healing, wisdom and light here and keep the dark forces such as those behind the tea party at bay. As for analysis of state of the art business processes and management, and geopolitical and economic affairs. I do know far more than you obviously do and know far more experts than you do. But I respect Chaz who has more experience actually operating as a leader in that environment. Too bad you don't see that a man needs to realize his limitations.
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dmaestro
16-Nov-12, 17:31
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www.spiritualitysolutions.com
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dmaestro
16-Nov-12, 21:34
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The tea party is still losing races. Concessions in California as anti Hispanic tea party bigot lost in Carlsbad Ca near San Diego. In FL black tea party zealot Allen West appears lost. I will personally celebrate the defeat of that loudmouhed nutcase. By 2016 the silly and pretentios but dangerous extremist tea party may be marginalized. I await the day when tea party membership will be as disqualifying as other discredited groups. The country will be far better off with actual conservatives, not ultra right wing nuts.
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You forgot to throw in, 'The metrics of modern business synergies is best exemplified by the interaction between internal suppliers and customers'. If you're going to throw out 'the speak' in an attempt to sound like a mover and shaper, you may want to reevaluate your ability to impress outside your normal sphere of like-minded self-infatuates.
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chaz
Sorry. I did not miss your post. It was a good one. But, I saw no question in it for me and I saw nothing contentious. It seemed to be end of that discussion. But Good One!
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dmaestro
17-Nov-12, 10:48
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Thumper I can simplify that statement even further. The level of trust in all phases of the interactive process between customer and supplier is the best metric of sustained business success. But you miss the point. Chaz illustrates his understanding of business by applying it in other areas where it works, such as politics, which is simply the business of governing. Whatever your lnowledge of your business and markets, I can't say the same about the tea party business folks here. And in addition you underestimate the ability of contemporary theorists to understand complex processes. I don't need to be a businessman to understand enough about business, that is your learning style. I consider Chaz as far superior in business understanding than you guys based on evidence.
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dm
You could be right about all that and there are no absolutes that always apply in all cases (except maybe in physics) but there is certainly a big difference between "ivory tower" book learning (that you seem to have) and actual real world experience (which you do not seem to have).
Chaz (I believe) will tell you that there can be a big difference between reading about war theory and actually playing the game.
I think YOU are sadly mistaken if you really believe you don't have to play the business game to learn how it's played, how to start up the game, what causes things to happen, all the myriad interactions that must occur in order to keep the game going and how to deal with the other players in the game.
That's called EXPERIENCE.
Book learning is nice and can be helpful. But, the everyday "gotcha's" are never learned or experienced... until you experience them for real. And, good decision making is a result of education AND experience.
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dm
Additional thought on that:
You can read a book on playing golf, but if you don't play and practice the game, the descriptions and illustrations really have no meaning. You need the experience to be able to actually do it.
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dm & softy ...
... yes, Softy, one's experience adds multiple layers to one's grasp of virtually any talent or acumen. Trouble is, though, there are many who claim much experience (or misvalue it) but have too little maturity or wisdom to perform extraordinarily well ... so, yes, Dm, your principles do indeed have astute value. Sometimes, the best way to combine experience with principle is to ask the right questions, especially among those who are affected most by those impending decisions. Then, among us ... among those who practice such skills with humility and devotion ... then indeed one of us can be in a position to make the best decisions for that situation.
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