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dmaestro
05-Jan-13, 16:16
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 Obama to Propose Comprehensive Gun Safety Program?
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dmaestro
Wrong. Illegal guns are just that, illegal. Taking all the legal guns off the street will do nothing.
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What they want to do is with the stroke of a pen make what is today 'legal', tomorrow it would be called 'illegal'. That way they can call any who have these firearms 'criminals'.
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thumper
sad but true. they use a tradgedy for their own exploitation of meaningless power. I suspect though theyll make an exception to islamic terrorists with ak47s as a "religious freedom". Then the same whiney cry babies will want protection when sharia law is enforced.
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all
Libs done give one damn about the tradgedy or tradgedies that happen. they only care to promote a government that controls the people. why? i have no clue, maybe its the publik ejukashun sistem that instills it.
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Who's actually going to take legal guns off the streets? Registration will allow guns to be traced during sales and help identify illegal arms dealers. Background checks are just that, keeping ak47s out of the hands of islamic terrorists and the like. I'm not seeing any mentions of outright bans nor gun buy-backs nor am I seeing how any legal gun owner would be affected under this sort of regulation.
Will somebody please explain to me why registration and background checks are such a bad idea? Anybody?
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its a gateway into personal freedoms. first is a registration, then a small tax to maintain a database, then a bigger tax to expand the database, then a bigger tax to ensure database integrity, then a bigger tax to the point of people just saying screw it. libs are crazy, but theyre not dumb
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Every legal gun owner is already on a database somewhere, the 4473 doesn't get thrown out after you leave the store. This extends that database to guns. I highly doubt there will be a tax increase to cover the expansion of an already existing database considering you can buy 1TB of storage for about $20.
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dmaestro
06-Jan-13, 00:49
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It is evident that much closer and periodic screening of gun owners combined with registering guns and tying ammo sales to legally registered guns would cramp illegal gun traffic and significantly reduce gun deaths. There is simply no precedent for a modern western democracy with a well established participative democratic and constitution based tradition becoming a tyranny. But this unreasonable fear stands in the way of what is needed to keep guns from those who should not have them.
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Iowa Lawmaker on 'Semi-Automatic' Firearms: 'I Think We Need to Start Taking Them'
By Pete Winn, January 7, 2013
(CNSNews.com) - A Democratic state lawmaker in Iowa told an Iowa newspaper he not only wants semi-automatic weapons banned in his state, he would like to see the weapons confiscated from anyone in Iowa who has already bought them.
“We cannot have big guns out here as far as the big guns that are out here, the semi-automatics and all of them,” Rep. Dan Muhlbauer (D-Manilla) told the Carroll (Iowa) Daily Times-Herald. “We can’t have those running around out here. Those are not hunting weapons. We should ban those in Iowa.”
Staff writer Douglas Burns reported that Muhlbauer supports a statewide ban and a voluntary buy-back plan, “but he would go further if needed” -- and that “the state of Iowa should take semi-automatic weapons away from Iowans who have legally purchased them prior to any ban that is enacted if they don’t give their weapons up in a buy-back program.”
“Even if you have them, I think we need to start taking them,” Muhlbauer was quoted as saying. “We can’t have those out there. Because if they’re out there they’re just going to get circulated around to the wrong people. Those guns should not be in the public’s hands. There are just too many guns.”
Presumably, Muhlbauer’s confiscation idea -- if ever adopted --would include the semi-automatic weapon owned by Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa). During his re-election campaign in 2012, the conservative King disclosed that he owned an AR-15, which he uses to control coyotes on his rural property in Western Iowa.
Muhlbauer’s state legislative district lies within the Fourth Congressional District that Rep. King represents in the U.S. Congress.
cnsnews.com
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dmaestro
08-Jan-13, 00:20
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King is not above the law. If the law passes right wing and tea party nutcase King would have to give up his assault rifle like everyone else. Or else..
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Or else what DM? Do tell.
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dmaestro
08-Jan-13, 00:47
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Four shot in Tulsa
More gun deaths. Thanks NRA. Every day the evidence piles up.
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Or else what DM?
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Or else he'll be arrested for breaking the law, I'm assuming DM means.
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If he's a nutcase like DM says he is, and has an AR15, what makes you think he would allow himself to be arrested?
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You don't honestly think people will be so scared of a nutcase with an AR15 that they're going to let him off?
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What do you mean?
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What does it matter that he doesn't let himself be arrested? He's still going to be pursued by law enforcement regardless.
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It's my understanding that being arrested is not something one can choose whether or not to acquiesce to.
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daestro
How do you blame the NRA over and over? You are even more guilty of deaths if you own a vehicle. I feel very sorry for you. Talk about shallow minded and clueless.
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dmaestro
08-Jan-13, 05:59
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If he violates gun laws he can be arrested and convicted, with all that entails. Or he can go postal and stay armed and try and hold out on his farm with more long lasting consequences. He has to obey the law like everyone else or suffer the consequences. If he is smart he will resign and move to Idaho.
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no longer america
this is truly a great land now over run with morons. anyone and everyone that voted for obama, anyone who thinks that only police and military should have guns while allowed to kill their own babies, anyone who truly hates the constitution as liberals do, thanks alot for ruining this great place. ya'll make me ashamed and embarressed not only as an american but as a human.
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dmaestro
08-Jan-13, 06:07
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Vehicles are an essential part of modern life and I don't drive drunk or crazy.
Assault weapons only purpose is to kill, they are NOT an essential part of modern life and guns kill more than vehicles in some states now such as gun toting Az. The NRA is on the wrong side of history and enables the killing by opposing any restrictions.
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vehicles that go over the speed limit are designed for what? fleeing an officer? maybe when your president gets his greedy paws on everyones guns, he can give them to the mexican drug lords again so they can kill more people too. Guns are much safer in the hands of the public than the government.
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dmaestro
but, regardless of whether vehicles are part of modern life or not. YOU are guilty of vehicle deaths just by owning one, using your logic of course. How does that feel to know that you are GUILTY. Responsible for the useless killings that automobiles have everyday. And the drunk drivers that kill. Sure you may not drive drunk, but if you didnt have a car, then it couldnt be stolen by and used to KILL. How do you sleep at night?
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but to extend the analogy to cars, aren't vehicles registered to the owner? And don't those who commit driving offences find themselves banned from using them?
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Legally they are. But we have thousands and thousands of people who drive illegally every single day. In fact we have an issue with illegal aliens who don't even have a license that drive. They are also among the highest percentage at here in Charlotte that kill people while drunk driving. Here, you have to kill 3 people driving drunk before they lock you up. So... If there were no cars owned legally then there could be no transfer or theft to those that drive illegally and kill people. Its fact and it happens everyday. But I'm sure we see that as "well thats different".
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Amendment 21 Jerry, a popular rescinding of amendment 14. How soon people forget. Your argument is getting ridiculous. No one (apart from one politician) has said they want guns banning. Drink driving? Ban alcohol again.
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dmaestro
08-Jan-13, 06:40
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Jerry,
It is increasingly hard sharing a country with myopic, uncompromising extremist dinosaurs on the wrong side of history. It is evident that you are opposed to democracy and you need to stay out of power. We the majority intend to hold a majority coalition of everyone except you indefinitely. You are not driving, we are, and as long as we are, get to the back of the bus to do your complaining!
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