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 School Shooters Under the Influence of Psychiatric DrugsNote. All of these people were under the 'care' of Psychiatrist and Psychologist and here are some of the drugs those Psy. people were having them take; Zoloft, SSRI. Benzodiazapine, Lexapro, Geodon, Prozac, Xanax, Ambien, Trazodone, Ritalin, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Celexa, Paxil, Luvox, Anafranil. Here's some info from the Citizens Commission On Human Rights International: The Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) is a non-profit, non-political, non-religious mental health watchdog. Its mission is to eradicate abuses committed under the guise of mental health and enact patient and consumer protections. CCHR has helped to enact more than 150 laws protecting individuals from abusive or coercive mental health practices. CCHR functions solely as a mental health watchdog, working alongside many medical professionals including doctors, scientists, nurses and those few psychiatrists who have taken a stance against the biological/drug model of “disease” that is continually promoted by the psychiatric/ pharmaceutical industry as a way to sell drugs. CCHR’s Board of Advisers, called Commissioners, include doctors, scientists, psychologists, lawyers, legislators,educators, business professionals, artists and civil and human rights representatives. There are more than 250 CCHR chapters in 34 countries, with the international headquarters based in Los Angeles, California. Call for Federal Investigation of Psychiatric Drugs, School Shootings & Senseless Violence Fact: Despite 22 international drug regulatory warnings on psychiatric drugs citing effects of mania, hostility, violence and even homicidal ideation, and dozens of high profile school shootings/killings tied to psychiatric drug use, there has yet to be a federal investigation on the link between psychiatric drugs and acts of senseless violence. Fact: Between 2004 and 2011, there have been over 11,000 reports to the U.S. FDA’s MedWatch system of psychiatric drug side effects related to violence. These include 300 cases of homicide, nearly 3,000 cases of mania and over 7,000 cases of aggression. Note: By the FDA’s own admission, only 1-10% of side effects are ever reported to the FDA, so the actual number of side effects occurring are most certainly higher. Fact: At least 31 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 162 wounded and 72 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs). The most important fact about this list, is that these are only cases where the information about their psychiatric drug use was made public. To give an example, although it is known that James Holmes, suspected perpetrator of a mass shooting that occurred July 20, 2012, at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, was seeing psychiatrist Lynne Fenton, no mention has been made of what psychiatric drugs he may have been taking. Also note that all these mass shootings didn’t just occur in the United States. 1.St. Louis, Missouri – January 15, 2013: 34-year-old Sean Johnson walked onto the Stevens Institute of Business & Arts campus and shot the school’s financial aid director once in the chest, then shot himself in the torso. Johnson had been taking prescribed drugs for an undisclosed mental illness. 2.Snohomish County, Washington – October 24, 2011: A 15-year-old girl went to Snohomish High School where police alleged that she stabbed a girl as many as 25 times just before the start of school, and then stabbed another girl who tried to help her injured friend. Prior to the attack the girl had been taking “medication” and seeing a psychiatrist. Court documents said the girl was being treated for depression. 3.Planoise, France – December 13, 2010: A 17-year-old youth held twenty pre-school children and their teacher hostage for hours at Charles Fourier preschool. The teen was reported to be on “medication for depression”. He took a classroom hostage with two swords. Eventually, all the children and the teacher were released safely. 4.Myrtle Beach, South Carolina – September 21, 2011: 14-year-old Christian Helms had two pipe bombs in his backpack, when he shot and wounded Socastee High School’s “resource” (police) officer. However the officer was able to stop the student before he could do anything further. Helms had been taking drugs for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and depression. 5.Huntsville, Alabama – February 5, 2010: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown. Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression. He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.” He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist. 6.Kauhajoki, Finland – September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist. 7.Fresno, California – April 24, 2008: 17-year-old Jesus “Jesse” Carrizales attacked the Fresno high school’s officer, hitting him in the head with a baseball bat. After knocking the officer down, the officer shot Carrizales in self-defense, killing him. Carrizales had been prescribed Lexapro and Geodon, and his autopsy showed that he had a high dose of the antidepressant Lexapro in his blood that could have caused him to be paranoid, according to the coroner. 8.Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist. 9.Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide. 10.Texas – November 7, 2007: 17-year-old Felicia McMillan returned to her former Robert E. Lee High School campus and stabbed a male student and wounded the principle with a knife. McMillan had been on drugs for depression, and had just taken them the night before the incident. 11.Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone. 12.Sudbury, Massachusetts – January 19, 2007: 16-year-old John Odgren stabbed another student with a large kitchen knife in a boy’s bathroom at Lincoln-Sudbury Regional High School. In court his father testified that Odgren was prescribed the drug Ritalin. 13.North Vernon, Indiana – December 4, 2006: 16-year-old Travis Roberson stabbed another Jennings County High School student in the neck, nearly severing an artery. Roberson was in withdrawal from Wellbutrin, which he had stopped taking days before the attack. 14.Hillsborough, North Carolina – August 30, 2006: 19-year-old Alvaro Rafael Castillo shot and killed his father, then drove to Orange High School where he opened fire. Two students were injured in the shooting, which ended when school personnel tackled him. His mother said he was on drugs for depression. 15.Chapel Hill, North Carolina – April 2006: 17-year-old William Barrett Foster took a shotgun to school and took a teacher and a fellow student hostage at East Chapel Hill High School. After being talked out of shooting the hostages, Foster fired two shots through a classroom window before fleeing the school on foot. Foster’s father testified that his son had stopped taking his antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs without telling him. 16.Red Lake, Minnesota – March 21, 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 5 students, a security guard, and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself. 17.Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”. He had previously seen a psychiatrist. 18.Red Lion, Pennsylvania – February 2, 2001: 56-year-old William Michael Stankewicz entered North Hopewell-Winterstown Elementary School with a machete, leaving three adults and 11 children injured. Stankewicz was taking four different drugs for depression and anxiety weeks before the attacks. 19.Ikeda, Japan – June 8, 2001: 37-year-old Mamoru Takuma, wielding a 6-inch knife, slipped into an elementary school and stabbed eight first- and second-graders to death while wounding at least 15 other pupils and teachers. He then turned the knife on himself but suffered only superficial wounds. He later told interrogators that before the attack he had taken 10 times his normal dose of antidepressants. 20.Wahluke, Washington – April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor. 21.El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting. 22.Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one. 23.Oxnard, California – January 2001: 17-year-old Richard Lopez went to Hueneme High School with a gun and shot twice at a car in the school’s parking lot before taking a female student hostage. Lopez was eventually killed by a SWAT officer. He had been prescribed Prozac, Paxil and “drugs that helped him go to sleep.” 24.Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates. 25.Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling. Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting. 26.Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed antidepressant and Ritalin. 27.Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist. 28.Blackville, South Carolina – October 12, 1995: 15-year-old Toby R. Sincino slipped into the Blackville-Hilda High School’s rear entrance, where he shot two Blackville-Hilda High School teachers, killing one. Then Toby killed himself moments later. His aunt, Carolyn McCreary, said he had been undergoing counseling with the Department of Mental Health and was taking Zoloft for emotional problems. 29.Chelsea, Michigan – December 17, 1993: 39-year-old chemistry teacher Stephen Leith, facing a disciplinary matter at Chelsea High School, shot Superintendent Joseph Piasecki to death, shot Principal Ron Mead in the leg, and slightly wounded journalism teacher Phil Jones. Leith was taking Prozac and had been seeing a psychiatrist. 30.Houston, Texas – September 18, 1992: 44-year-old Calvin Charles Bell, reportedly upset about his second-grader’s progress report, appeared in the principal’s office of Piney Point Elementary School. Bell fired a gun in the school, and eventually wounded two officers before surrendering. Relatives told police on Friday that Bell was an unemployed Vietnam veteran and had been taking anti-depressants. 31.Winnetka, Illinois – 20 May 1988: 30-year-old Laurie Wasserman Dann walked into a second grade classroom at Hubbard Woods School in Winnetka, Illinois carrying three pistols and began shooting children, killing an eight-year-old boy, and wounding five others before fleeing. She entered a nearby house where she shot and wounded a 20-year-old man before killing herself. Dann had been seeing a psychiatrist and subsequent blood tests revealed that at the time of the killings, she was taking the antidepressant Anafranil. www.cchrint.org |
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psychcentral.com Percentage of mass shooters pretty low against these figures. Percentage of gun owners overall around 50% I believe. The article above seems to indicate that the people listed were on some kind of antipsychotic drugs at the time of the killings. It does not say how many shooters (mass) were not on antipsychotics |
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change We do not ever see the medical records of the shooters because the government passed HIPAA privacy laws which consider that information "private". I'd like to know, since you say "percentage of mass shooters pretty low against these figures", exactly what percentage of the shooters were on some of those psychiatric drugs. My guess is that probably 100% were taking one or more of those drugs. Stop the violence? Stop the drugs. |
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There has always been a correlation between psychiatric disorders and violent behaviours. Just imagine how many would go around shooting others if they were not on anti-psychotic medication! Almost 48 million Xanax prescriptions annually in the US! Stop those and you would a lot more 'cranky' individuals running around. With the 'apparent' ease of gun availability that abounds it would't take much for even more mass shootings, yes? Balance is the key. Less drugs and less guns. |
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jonheck 08-Feb-13, 07:50 |
changling Peace Jon |
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ace_kyi 08-Feb-13, 20:01 |
Don't blame the drugs ! There is no question that either street drugs or prescription drugs are mood altering drugs. The drugs listed are mostly anti-depressants. Some are used for hyperactive kids such as Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD). Some are sleeping pills. Analyze the recent Sandy Hook school shooting. The mother loved his son who had mental illness. He could not mix with other kids. So, the mother isolated him at home. Mother's hobby is shooting and she has many guns. She likes target shooting at the shooting range. As a diversion and as a therapy she would bring her son together to the shooting range to practice shooting. The son became very good at handling weapons and shooting. What happened next is as you already know; He killed his mother and school children. Another example: Chris Kyle was an Iraqi veteran, a sniper who killed 150 enemies in Iraq. He was a good guy who tried to help veterans with PTSD. Like mother and son above, he would bring the veterans to the shooting range and practiced shooting as a therapy. What happened next ? He was killed at the shooting range by the guy whom he tried to help him. What lessons do we learn form these two examples? There is some grain of salt in what NRA said, that " Guns don't kill people but people kill people." There are no exceptions, we should keep the guns away from people with mental illness. Some may argue that crazy people who are treated with drugs might be safe to handle guns. Sometimes, prescriptions drugs can have opposite of desirable effects and can make some people high. Their insights and judgment can be poor. On the other hand if they are not closely followed up by psychiatrists and is not taking the drugs regularly, they can also be very crazy. The bottom line is it is better and safe to keep guns away from very crazy people. Don't blame the drugs. This is your take home message. |
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They don't go on shooting rampages. Also, all of the drugs listed are different. They do different things. So categorizing them together is totally meaningless. Except that it indicates that each one of the shooters had psychiatric problems. Which we already knew. The shooting and suicide being symptoms of that. Honestly the inability of the American public to simply hold shooters accountable and move on with our lives is an indication that more Americans need to be ON drugs. |
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Changeling Also, perhaps if people in other countries took MORE psychiatric drugs, these countries would have higher GDP's, less laziness, more initiative, and less overall apathy. |
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Good point Tat. |
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tat We are not talking about other countries here, but we can if you want to. Which one would you like to start with, Australia Perhaps? Yes many here also take anti=psychotic drugs I would imagine, but we don't have too many mass shootings though which is what softy was linking together! Opium Straw is actually manufactured in Australia (Tasmania) under strict guidelines, and not in great quantities (for medicines etc). www.kew.org You really should get at least some facts right before these constant barbs at Australia |
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change They are used in millions of cases, and for the most part work well... or at least reasonably well. But, if there are bad results with even only 1 %, that could be a lot of violent behavior. I am criticising the fact that we are not able to find out if the use of those drugs, or the stoppage of use of those drugs, were a common factor in these shootings. I have a feeling that there is commonality in a LOT of these cases. Remember, most of this violence is committed by young people who have some mental disease and have probably been taking these drugs since early childhood. Now, the knee jerk reaction is to ban guns (the ultimate goal) without even considering causes of the violence. We are not trying to stop the violence... we are taking away their access to the current tools of violence, which does not solve the problem. |
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So you're saying that women don't get depressed and aren't helped by medication? Anti-depressants taken by women who have recently had babies are of no benefit to the women who take them? Are you saying that schizophrenics don't need medication? That their hallucinations, paranoia, delusions, etc......all of those things are NOT helped by medication? |
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Criticizing people who take medication to deal with grief? Are you f***ing kidding me? |
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Unreal. |
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ace_kyi 09-Feb-13, 14:07 |
Drug pushers are same; whether it is legal or illegal. |
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Aussiespud But how in the hell is this relevant? |
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Tat |
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Aussiespud Isn't illness part of the human experience too, then? Heart attacks, strokes, cancer, broken bones, basically everything we seek medical help for.....all of these things are part of the human experience. Why is it okay to view these things as diseases or injuries requiring medical assistance, while depression, hopelessness, sadness, brought on by loss of some kind are......according to your definition.....not symptioms that are disabling? Also, I am assuming that you have a problem with things like Alzheimers and Parkinson's Disease being treated. Those are also brain based and involve emotional and behavioral changes. They also, I would think, are part of the human experience. |
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Tatt www.wired.com |
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I also think there's an over diagnosis of bacterial infections in children. In some countries children who get very sick with an infection just aren't fit to live or god doesn't want them to live. I also think that it's unfair what we keep all infants alive. In some places, like villages in remote parts of brazil, mothers kill infants that seem weird or are annoying. This seems like a smart thing to do. What you are talking about with regards to mental illness has no right answer. It is an anthropology issue and depends entire on the society and culture in question. Also, medical advances have resulted in all kinds of children surviving who previously would have died in childbirth, died as premature infants, as babies or as young children. This has consequences which may or may not involve mental health problems when these same people are then put in schools with all of the healthier kids and expected to perform at the same level. It sounds to me that you're saying that people don't really have problems. Or that things like autism are over diagnosed. It seems to me that its this line of thinking which results in people like Adam Lanza ending up loose in society without ever having been diagnosed and treated for anything. As the direct result of old fashioned, irresponsible thinking which no longer applies in today's world. |
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I know of many kids who get that diagnosis who..by their parents own admission...only got it because the parent saw it as a way to get some free support they would not have otherwise got to deal with typical kid acting out. It's the same with ADHD. I know from personal experience that real mental illness is a devastating condition that needs to be treated, to get back to the point I was trying to make from the onset. I dispute some of things that are now being classified under that banner. |
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Whoa Or you're saying that some kids don't really have ADHD, they are just typical kids acting out and the parents can't deal with it? Are you beating around the bush to avoid blaming parents for their kids behavior? Even if this IS true, why does it matter? The point is getting help for kids who otherwise are having problems in some areas. Perhaps some children have issues because of their parents. Is it fair to deny them medication and therapy to help them cope or help them get things they aren't getting at home? Judging something like this.....saying that things are over diagnosed.......seems like a very slippery slope to me. Some people wouldn't want any part in making such an accusation at the risk of being wrong. |
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