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astinkyfart
13-Mar-13, 14:06

Sheriffs refused pay unless they support new gun laws
Sheriff Terry Maketa from El Paso County, Colorado has been informed by the County Sheriffs of Colorado that salaries will be halted or slashed should sheriffs not support new Colorado gun control legislation.

Maketa explained that the email “basically said, Dem. leadership is very upset with the sheriffs and their opposition to the gun control bills.”

Should sheriffs continue to be publically vocal about not complying with a federal or state gun grab, they will suffer financially.

Marketa explained further that the email originated with the Colorado Sheriffs Association. It concerned a perceived upset by Colorado Senate Democrats and response that would effectively hold pay hostage for Constitutional sheriffs.



Last week the Colorado State Senate and House saw multiple gun control legislation come through for approval, and these were successful:

• SB 195 prohibiting online certification of concealed carry permit
• SB 197 ban domestic violence perpetrators from owning a gun
• HB 1224 limit magazines to 15 rounds
• HB 1228 gun buyers pay for background check
• HB 1229 require background check for commercial/private sales

Gun manufacturers have begun to refuse shipment and sale of their products in states that restrict citizen’s 2nd Amendment rights. Called the Firearms Equality Movement, the number of participants has risen from 34 to 118.

House Representative Jan Schakowsky has let the cat out of the bag on gun control. Schkaowsky said, at a rall for pro-women’s rights, that a ban on assault weapons, high capacity magazines and mandatory universal background checks on commercial and private sales are just the beginning.

Schkaowsky said: “We want everything on the table. This is a moment of opportunity. There’s no question about it. . . We’re on a roll now, and I think we’ve got to take the–you know, we’re gonna push as hard as we can and as far as we can.”

The issue for Schkaowsky is that circumventing the 2nd Amendment as it is currently written can be achieved with the assistance of municipalities and communities banning gun ownership in their district and within their borders.



The public has responded to the federal gun grab by frequenting gun shows and buying everything they can – leaving tables empty.

Interesting research claims that less Americans own guns in cities, suburbs and rural areas regardless of having children in the home or not. Registered gun owners statistically have fallen by 50% since 2010.

Daniel Webster from Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research states: “There are all these claims that gun ownership is going through the roof. But I suspect the increase in gun sales has been limited mostly to current gun owners. The most reputable surveys show a decline over time in the share of households with guns.”

Mainstream media does not consider that perhaps Americans are purchasing more firearms without registration such as private sales and gun shows. This fact would explain why the federal and local state governments are seeking to mandate universal background checks on those sales to monitor who is becoming armed . . .

According to a recent Pew Research poll, average Americans do not trust the US government. Data was taken across the nation from January of this year and showed that the current administration did not invoke faith in leadership from the populace.

The younger and naïve of the public are generally trusting by nature and showed in this poll that they are more likely to have faith in the Obama administration.

The statement from Pew reads: “Since Barack Obama’s first year in office, public assessments of the federal government dropped nine points. Most of the change was among Democrats and independents, as the level of favorable views of government among Republicans was already low.”

Perhaps distrusting the government has merit.

The California State Senate approved allocating more taxpayer money toward gun buy-back programs in order to coerce the residents to turn in their guns. SB 140 directed $24 million for the California State Department of Justice’s Armed and Prohibited Persons (DoJ-APP) program that is designed to prohibit gun ownership from:

• Convicted felons
• Those convicted of violent misdemeanor
• Those subject to domestic violence restraining order
• Those determined mentally unstable

As of now, the California DoJ-APP has confiscated an estimated 10,000 firearms since the program was created in 2006.

In Bryon, Maine, residents are being empowered to own a gun to protect themselves from this tyrannical government we face.

Anne Simmons-Edmund, head selectman for Bryon says: “It was never my intention to force anyone to own a gun who doesn’t want to. My purpose was to make a statement in support of the Second Amendment (to the U.S. Constitution).”

Other towns in Maine have adopted similar measures. Local police claims that this ordinance would cause crime rates to rise considerably.

Misconceptions of Simmons-Edmund’s purpose abound as residents complain that they should have the right not to own a gun. This rhetoric confuses the issue purveying that ultimately it is the federal government through state legislature and Congress who will remove the rights of Americans to the 2nd Amendment if more steps to protect it are not taken.
pecosbill
13-Mar-13, 14:27

fart...
Wow... that certainly makes me thankful for living where I do....

"Last year, Mendocino County gun stores sold 4,249 pistols, shotguns and rifles. As of December, more than 1,200 residents had permits to carry concealed weapons.

By comparison, Sonoma County gun stores sold 9,965 firearms. Residents had just 77 permits.

Allman said guns are a popular choice for self-protection in Mendocino County, where it can take more than an hour for police to arrive to emergencies.

“I have no doubt that some improvement can be made with some gun laws,” he said. “But in Mendocino County, we're very supportive of the Second Amendment. Let's not let emotions drive the conversation.”
www.pressdemocrat.com

Sonoma county has roughly 5 times our population 486,479 to 87,669
tat3225
14-Mar-13, 13:39

So California is saying that basically anyone who is convicted of a violent crime, or has a restraining order taken out on them, or is mentally unstable is not entitled to constitutional rights.

How do they plan on enforcing this? Can't a person who falls into any of those categories just have someone else own their gun, like Adam Lanza did? Or own an illegal gun?


Also, I'm wondering what a domestic violence perpetrator is according to the state of Colorado.


Regardless, all of this legislation just seems stupid. It's particularly embarrassing for women considering that the women's rights advocate brought gun control into a women's rights rally. I mean all she's doing is confirming the old school stereotype that women are dumb.
pecosbill
14-Mar-13, 14:23

They are not enforcing existing laws
"As state and federal leaders debate new gun laws in response to a series of mass shootings, the Reno Gazette-Journal analyzed the prosecution of federal firearms cases under current laws. The investigation found that in the cases prosecuted in the past five years, many defendants were not charged with every law they violated, accepted plea deals that let many charges disappear and secured relatively lenient punishments compared to what they could have faced."

"Of the 112 firearms cases prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney's office in Reno from 2008 to 2012, only two went to trial. About 95 percent were resolved with plea deals, which is common in federal cases, experts said. Less common with the Reno cases was that some felons caught with several guns or people who violated numerous laws were only indicted on one or two criminal charges, leaving prosecutors with few bargaining tools."

"The country doesn't need new gun laws when the laws already on the books are not being prosecuted," he said."

Read more: www.lasvegassun.com
changeling
14-Mar-13, 18:27

Keeping out of the general discussion but a comment on the OP: Perhaps the sheriff's affected can fight it through their union.  
pecosbill
15-Mar-13, 22:30

CL....
I cannot think of a job that demonstrates a greater likelihood of corruption that a "law enforcement union"... can you??
aussiespud
15-Mar-13, 23:07

Bill
By "job", I assume you mean paid union official...not member?
pecosbill
17-Mar-13, 17:37

ap...
Yes, I think that is correct.* My concern is the power of the prison guard union. They are the the second most powerful union in California and they constantly contribute to campaigns that push for harsher laws.

I have a problem with advocating for imprisonment so that your organization can profit.
Sounds a lot like slavery to me!

*(I am assuming that the decisions about which propositions/issues to bankroll are not made by the rank-and-file... although something should be said about allowing a union leadership which apparently has no notion of the moral equivalency of slavery vs. imprisonment)



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