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10.Re1 cxd5.
1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Nc6
5. d5 Ne5
6. Qe2 d6
7. O-O-O c6
8. f4 Bg4
9. Qd2 Ned7
10. Re1 cxd5
like in the Sicilian Defense,black seeks counter play on the half open c-file.
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White moves 11.Nxd5 and Black responds with 11...e6
1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Nc6
5. d5 Ne5
6. Qe2 d6
7. O-O-O c6
8. f4 Bg4
9. Qd2 Ned7
10. Re1 cxd5
11. Nxd5 e6
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12.Bxf6 Nxf6
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1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Nc6
5. d5 Ne5
6. Qe2 d6
7. O-O-O c6
8. f4 Bg4
9. Qd2 Ned7
10. Re1 cxd5
11. Nxd5 e6
12. Bxf6 Nxf6
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stalhandske
16-Mar-13, 03:29
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at this point
it would be of great interest to have independent evaluations of the position by masters such as elyhim, klauno and/or ionadowman, and indeed by anyone else. White's attack might appear "wild", but it does have an underlying logic. The fast charges (albeit at some expense of development) have helped to weaken black's king position. The quasi-open e-file is one pathway of attack in which the pawn at f4 is crucial. White's next move is another bold charge, this time directed at the black king, whose further escape by castling will be ruined.
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13.Bb5ch Kf7
1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Nc6
5. d5 Ne5
6. Qe2 d6
7. O-O-O c6
8. f4 Bg4
9. Qd2 Ned7
10. Re1 cxd5
11. Nxd5 e6
12. Bxf6 Nxf6
13. Bb5+ Kf7
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black resigns
The game is lost. Stal is too strong for me. Congrats.
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at this point.
I can see the advantage for white to have weaken the black king but I do not think white can carry on attacking this way (to many pieces bad or un-protected). So that white will have to trade (the knight) and/or to retreat and black has counterattacking possibilities (withe knight, LSB, a pawn, queen...). The knight trade by Nxf6 is good to prevent counterattack but has the drawback to open the g file (and permit the rook to escape). The other solution I see to drive the LSB by h3, eventualy exchanging it against the d5 knight if black chooses to play Kxd5 with the consequence of having a strong black knight at the center and the advantage of the h open file with rook directed on black king's area.
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14...gxf6 nor 14...Kxf6 work.
14....Qxf3 15.h3 Bf5 16.g4 Bg6 17.f5 exf5 18.Qd5ch Qd6 19.Qxb2ch Be7 20.Nf3 etc etc etc.
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stalhandske
16-Mar-13, 05:25
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@ptitroque
I think your analysis is basically correct. The 14. Nxf6 indeed leaves several significant weak spots in white's defense, and I really think brigadecommander might have made a too hasty decision. 14....gxf6 15. h3 (your suggestion!) leads to retreat of the black LSB, but I don't see why the game would be lost for black.
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stalhandske
16-Mar-13, 05:44
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not lost for black at all, because.....
after 14....gxf6 15. h3 b5 and 16. g4 Bg6 17. f5 (similar to that analysed by brigadecommander) black should NOT play 17....exf5 (which loses), but 17...d5! 18. fxg6 is followed by 18...hxg6 and black is in quite good shape despite the small material deficiency!!
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b5?? the white Bishop is on B5!!!
what do you mean? After 15.h3 the black bishop has to retreat. After 17....d5? White plays 18.h4 Qd6 19.h5 Bxf5 20.gxf5 Qb4 21.Qxb4 Bxb4 22.c3 Bc5 23.Bd7 and Black is dead.
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stalhandske
16-Mar-13, 06:52
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My mistake, I'm sorry
15...b5 was a mistyping, should be Bf5
So, after 15. h3 I suggest the black bishop to retreat to f5 (i.e. my mistake: Bf5 instead of b5). Then 16. g4 Bg6 17. f5 (as I mentioned before). Now, 17....exf5 is losing (as I mentioned), but 17...d5 is feasible. White may now play 18. h4 (as you suggest), but black responds with 18...Qb6 or 18....a6 or 18...Kg7 (instead of your Qd6), and whilst white is presumably ahead in position, it is not by much.
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stalhandske
16-Mar-13, 07:03
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I'd like to add
that the GK computer analysis (for what it is worth) supports my claim. It gives a score of -0.38 at the end, meaning that stalhandske is losing......I think negative means just that. Or, more objectively perhaps, that there is still a lot in the game and the resignation was premature.
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Black is lost
after the variation suggested by Stal ( 17....d5 there follows; 18.h4 Qd6. 19.Nd2 a6 20.Ba4 Qb4.21.Nf3 d4.22.fxg6ch hxg6.23.Nxe4! and black is lost. There are other worse variations for Black but i will not list them here.
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stalhandske
18-Mar-13, 15:02
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I disagree, black is not necessarily lost!
Let's consider the suggested sequence from the last move of the game, 14. Nxf6.
14....gxf6 15. h3 Bf5 16. g4 Bg6 17. f5 d5, as we have already discussed.
Then, 18. h4 (I agree), but your suggested 18....Qd6 is no good. There are much better moves, such as moving the King away, or a6. After this white might stand a little better, but black is not lost! I am almost tempted to bet on this by challenging you at this position, with me switching to the black pieces?
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Black to move. I will show you. Black is doomed.
just make your move and i will post the next position with my response.
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stalhandske
18-Mar-13, 23:34
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Thanks!
I think this will be a good lesson not only for me, but for the viewers as well. stalhandske jumps into the black shoes in the above position, and moves 18....Qb6. This simultaneously attacks the white LSB, moves against white's king position, opens up space for the black rooks on the 8th row, and supports the pawn at e6.
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Black plays 1...Qb6 white, 2.Bd7
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if 2...exf5 then 3.Qxd5ch
now the black position is opened up like a can of sardines.
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stalhandske
19-Mar-13, 01:28
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Ouch!
19. Bd7 was not anticipated by stalhandske. Very strong move! Now, what to do?
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stalhandske
19-Mar-13, 02:06
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black moves 19....exf5
and white replies 20. Qxd5+ (see above), to which black replies 20....Kg7
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2...exf5 3.Qxd5ch Kg7. 4.gxf5
Now if 4...Bf7 then 5.Be6
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stalhandske
19-Mar-13, 04:04
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Black moves 4....Rd8
instead of 4....Bf7
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Question
Why not 4. ... Bf7 "garde !" like the gentlemen used to say in the good old times. Rd7 can come after and the guarding bishop can come back to his king further if needed ?
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stalhandske
19-Mar-13, 05:29
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@ptitroque
Many thanks for your interest. Btw this gentleman still says "garde" as he has taught his grandchildren to do! Well, your suggestion may well be a better one than the 4...Rd8. Perhaps I wanted TOO much NOT to follow the line anticipated by brigadecommander?
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black plays 4...Rd8. White moves 5.fxg6
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stalhandske
19-Mar-13, 09:16
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black
moves 5....hxg6
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5...hxg6 6.Rd1
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stalhandske
20-Mar-13, 04:46
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black moves
6....Rh7.
This corresponds to 23....Rh7 based on the original numbering in this game. In that game black resigned after white's 14th move. We are thus now as many as 9 moves beyond the resignation and I still do not see that black is definitely lost or doomed. Whilst down in material, I think black can regain some in the next few moves, even though the position is still somewhat better for white.
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