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 IM Klaus vs. Myevilluck Najdorf Game 2I'll let Klaus start the moves on this game as he is the one who differed first. |
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Revanche !! :-) After 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Sc3 a6 7.Be3 ! Not that i would believe Be3 is better than Bg5 , no no, i only want to show you what all is possible. My Chess teacher told me many Years ago, that the pawn Structure f3,g4,h5 is perhaps the best to attack. I believe him ! Instead of Myevilluck Pawn Structure with f4 here i will play f3 to save the e-pawn, and to help playing g4 and h4-h5. This gives Black some more chances for an earlier attack at Queenside, but the middle is from White is stronger. At the End i can´t say which plan is the better one, it is only an other ! |
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7. e5 An aggressive move chasing the knight. I have been told by many older chess players that e5 is the true Najdorf (allowing the LSB to e6). And that the mainline 7. Bg5 e6 (last game) isn't much different from the Scandinavian Variation. Honestly, I have no idea. I'd like to ask Klaus what the difference is. |
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The Different ! My Goal is, to play f3,g4,h5 the Queen would stand my pawn in the Way, if she would stood on g3 ! So, my next move is logical, i want to play f3, so i can´t play my Night on f3, on e2 it cost´s time to develop the Bishop on f1, so the normal move is Nb3 ! An other playable Idea is here to play Nf3, castle kingside and attack the d-Pawn,which is weak. The Night on f3 would look on e5, this is ever a good attack when the d-pawn is weak. But it is a other game ! Here i moved 8. Nb3 ! |
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Nf3 vs Nb3 |
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The real 7. ...Be6 This move is played not only to attack c4 but to protect f5 and d5 which are weak squares. (I think we explained in the last game the bad things that come in this weakness.) Also, It saves a place for the Knight on b8 to go to d7. Saving the bishops move to go to b7 would be a mistake because of the pawn on f3 protecting e4 giving the bishop nothing to do. It weakens f5 as well which again is bad. |
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The more real 8.f3 :-) I told my ideas a little higher in this topic. So i play f3, later Qd2, 0-0-0,Kb1,g4,h4,h5 This Position is my Goal to reach in this game. Lets see if black can do something against it, or if my ideas are good ? |
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8. Be7 Sorry this move took me so long, but I got into an analysis mode with this move. I couldn't particularly figure out why it is made. It's one of those classic Sicilian moves. I actually put 2 boards side by side and kept playing with and without this move. Honestly, I don't think it needs to be made. There really isn't anything that much better, but this bishop never really has a role in the game. I assume most people make it to castle, and that seems to be the only good reason to me. Also, it helps get the h8 rook out quicker in endgames. (Yes, I was looking about twenty plus moves ahead of this move just to find a difference.) |
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8. Be7 |
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So g6 would be a mistake, no small mistake i should say ! |
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9. Qd2 9. Qd2 is better than directly 9.g4 because the black answer d5 is not good possible now. for example : 9. g4 d5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11.Nxd5 Bh4+ 12.Bf2 Bxf2 13.Kxf2 Bxd5 with small black advantage ! after 9.Qd2 d5 10.exd5 Nxd5 11.Nxd5 Bxd5 12.0-0-0 !! This move is the different to 9. g4 White has small advantage now. |
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9. ...Nbd7 9. ...h5 and 9. ...O-O are also serious possibilities to consider. I made this move to connect my knights, and open my a8 rook to get on the c-file. This also has the theory of the Knight going to b6 because of the strong move of Nd5 he has. This is really a style choice as I like how the games go with this move. |
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10.g4 My Goal, i wrote it already, is to get the pawns on f3,g4,h5 Other possible moves are 10. 0-0-0 10. Nd5 |
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10. h6 A pretty self explanatory move. Trying to hold off the storm of pawns to create my queenside attack and keep my knight defending e5. I'm sure Rc8, Qc7, O-O, and b5 are all possible, but I have more defensiveness in me than I let on and I just don't like the idea of g5 yet. |
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11.0-0-0 11.h4 is an option, but the position will be the same one move later ! |
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11. ...b5 The classic attacking scheme of the Sicilian. This is the most accurate move because black wants to get the knight to b6 quickly. You almost never want the b-pawn blocked in with these type of games, since it is blacks main idea. This move creates a world of possibility of pawn pushing attacks, opens up blacks queenside for maneuvering. |
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klauno 05-Feb-13, 15:08 |
Deleted by klauno on 05-Feb-13, 15:10.
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for example : If black would play 11...Qc7 than White could play 12. h4 Now black plays 12....b5 one move later as in the game ! 13.Rh2 now the Queen saves the rook and g5 is possible ! 13...b4 14.Nd5 Bxd5 15.exd5 Nb6 ( to get a square for the Bishop on f6 ) 16. Qxb4 Nfxd5 17. Rxd5 Nxd5 18.Qe4 Nxe3 19.Qxa8 with white advantage ! but my Opponent saw this all and played 11....b5 ! My Answer is given some in this Topic before 12.h4 i wanna play h5 ! |
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12. ...Nb6 Really this move is a nice counter to the white kingside attack. If you play other moves, 13. Qg2 would be possible, and the following g5. This counters plays like that because my knight can attack his bishop by going to c4 and my pawn can move to b4 attacking his knight, and my opponent wouldn't have time to follow with the planned idea. Defense by threats is always cool. |
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13.Qf2 attack the opponent ! A few more Moves are made : 13.Qf2 attacks the Night on d6, gives the own Queen the chance to move to g3 later for better attack on the Opponent Kingside ! And after Kb1 later the Bishop on e3 could move to c1 ! 13.Qf2 Nfd7 a logical move. If white would play g5 instead of h5, the bishop is attacked on f6. The second reason to play this Move is to save the other Bishop on B6 ! 13. Qf2 Nfd7 14. Kb1 Nc4 15. Bc1. I don´t wanna exchange Bishop and night without need ! P.S. In this Topic is no response from our Club-Members ? Is it boring you all ? Meyvilluck and me are doing our best, but without comments we do not know if this is interesting for anyone ? |
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@klaus and myevilluck |
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i am watching closely, |
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@brigardecommander : Do you mean merlino ? |
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yes |
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enjoying it very much! I note that if the game starts going very fast, I may not review right away but always will come back to it. I still have not reviewed the stonewall games (elsewhere in this forum) as they were played lightning fast. also, I may come back for a second, third or tenth review a year or two later. so it is a long-term contribution you are making. not a question, but a comment. re your saying the bishop could come back to c1 "!". Pieces moving backwards is interesting to me. I think I have a slightly "always move forward" mindset. would be interesting to see any dramatic reverse moves and related discussion from master players. |
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@ hogfysshe My Comment : " Bishop could come back to c1" Most strong Players, maybe grandmasters or I.M.´s or so, like to have the Bishop Pair ( problem for me to translate exactly, i mean both bishops instead of both nights) for the Endgame. Both Bishops are stronger in the Endgame than both Nights. If it is one bishop against one Night, the Situation can be different, it is a Question of the Pawn Structure than. But normally in the Endgame two Bishops against two Nights are stronger. So in this case, i move my Bishop backward to hold him on the board. It is thought over the complete game up into the endgame ! Sometimes more early, a Night is incapable to move over the complete board with spare moves. Thats the advantage of a Bishop against a Night. This only works, if their are not much Pawns on the Board. The Advantage of a Night against a Bishop is, that a Night can appear on black and on white Squares ! So if you have both Bishops, they can move in spare moves over the complete Board, and they can appear black and white squares. But Nights can appear 2 times one black or white square You see, it is very difficult to decide if a Bishop or a Night is stronger. In more Cases the Bishop Pair (i mean both bishops) is stronger than the 2 Nights ! Im not a Master Player, perhaps im not bad, but im sure that only move forward, as you say, is no winning Option ! In closed Positions more than in Opens. Thats the Reason of my 2 Moves Qf2 and Kb1, to hold the Bishop on the Board, but only for a short time I think, it will be very interesting, if we open a Thread of generally Goals and Ideas or Plans in a Game. It will addressed to squares, lines, double-attacks,diagonals, weak pawns, positional standings and so on.... Perhaps we can teach and learn from each other ? Kind regards, klaus |
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I am also watching @klauno, You got it right; "Bishop Pair" is the correct translation (or at least I'm familiar with it!) |
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Me too! |
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@klauno- New thread : Plans and ideas |
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agreed |
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