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IM Klaus vs. Myevilluck Najdorf Game 2
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myevilluck
18-Feb-13, 02:30

15. ... Qb6
Dr. Disasterpiece is back from hiatus. Thanks everyone for the comments. We appreciate them.



I guess my thought process behind the move was "please take this!!" I knew, if he traded and my knight on d7 took it'd be a minimal advantage. Plus, it seemed like a free tempo move because his queen has to move and then I could go Rc8. Also, it releases that weird ghost pin he has on the d-file with my knight. It halts the idea of Qg3 for now because my knight can go to e3. (enter intelligent ideas here.)
klauno
18-Feb-13, 09:55

16. Qe1 Rc8 17.Nd5
No,no i won´t exchange the Queens  

And so you played like you said 16...Rc8.
My Answer Nd5 is nearly forced ! I have to take the Night on c4, but i won´t that he take back with the Bishop. If i play directly Bxc4 then it comes Bxc4 Nd5 Bxd5 ! But in this way i move the Bishop can´t take !

Position after 17. Nd5

myevilluck
20-Feb-13, 03:17

17. ... Qc6



Having my pieces ghost his c2 square and obviously saving the queen from its demise. I'm going to be honest here. I played that move quite awhile ago, and looking back I'm not sure I like it. I assumed he would play 18. Nxe7, but seeing the way he has played it; I think 17. ...Bxd5 was a better move. This move makes my pieces a little too clumpy. Thoughts?
ptitroque
20-Feb-13, 04:04

@myevilluck
I do not undestand the term clumpy(didn't find it in google traduction).
I think, if I where white, I would attack the king side and first play the LSB on g2 or g3 but your queen on c6 makes it dangerous, menacing Qxc2 +.
klauno
20-Feb-13, 15:20

other translations can be lumpy or coagulative.I believe a France translation can be grumeleux ( like rice can be) ? my france is more bad than my english, but it means that the pieces of black are cramped !

We foreigners should hold together  

Klaus
klauno
20-Feb-13, 15:36

18. Bxd5
I haven´t played Nxe7 because of myevilluck will take back with his King. On e7 his King find a sure place for the moment and his rooks are affiliated with each other ! My Attack as his Kingsite will grasp at nothing !



bwaa
20-Feb-13, 15:39

18.Bxc4
You mean 18.Bxc4, yes?
klauno
21-Feb-13, 08:49

18.Bxc4 not Bxd5 !
Yes, sorry
18.Bxc4 not Bxd5  

i can´t edit the topic, is this normally ?
bwaa
21-Feb-13, 08:51

Editing
As far as I know, these boards don't allow any posts to be edited once they're posted, which is pretty annoying!
ionadowman
23-Feb-13, 14:26

I've come late...
... to this thread. As some interest has been expressed in the Najdorf in Group I, it seemed to me appropriate that I look to this thread for something a bit more ... advanced, shall we say.
I've not been disappointed. The annotated game was quite the sort of thing one hopes for, clear, rather detailed, exposes of players' thinking, and closing with a wild looking tactical melee leading to a friendly handshake.

I have a feeling something interesting might be happening here, too. One's first thought is that Black will retake with the Queen at this point. The strike at the c2-square would have to be dealt with by White - 18...Qxc4 19.Qf2, say.

But in situations like this, the alternate recapture should always get more than a dismissive glance. I rather like 18...bxc4, as it transpires, striking at the Knight on b3, and opening up a handy-looking alternative route - the b-file - into White's castled King's position. True, b2 is already defended (by the c1-bishop), and White can disrupt Black's castling (for what that might be worth):

18.Bxc4 bxc4 19.Na5!? Qb5 20.Nxe7 Kxe7
Analysis position after 20...Kxe7:
w
21.Bd2 (say) Nc5
I don't know about you, but I'd fancying Black's game in this position: rooks connected (but yet to switch operations to the b-file); 'good' bishop potentially raking White's Q-side; even the split pawns on the Q-side have a considerable attack potential. As for Black's King's position, that might prove safer in the centre than castled 'into White's attack' on the K-side.

Please let me know, by the way, if anticipating players' thinking in this way is inappropriate in this forum.
Cheers,
Ion
klauno
23-Feb-13, 15:14

18...Qxc4
But it doesn´t come bxc4, myevilluck plays Qxc4.
The advantage is, that his pawns on Queenside are stronger in the endgame, but bxc4 is more aggressive, i have to play my Night directly.
After Qxc4 i have time to save my c pawn with the Rookmove to h2.

In the end i don´t know what is the better move, it is a question of the personal style to play, i think !

So, we now have the Position after 18...Qxc4 19.Rh2 Bxd5 20.exd5


Perhaps i really got more trouble if black played 18....bxc4 instead of Qxc4



ionadowman
23-Feb-13, 19:06

Deleted by ionadowman on 24-Feb-13, 11:46.
jkarp
23-Feb-13, 20:26

Deleted by jkarp on 24-Feb-13, 18:38.
ionadowman
23-Feb-13, 23:31

Deleted by ionadowman on 24-Feb-13, 11:45.
klauno
24-Feb-13, 07:27

o.k but this has nothing to do with this thread here.
Please make copy and paste and post it in a new one.

Tomorrow i will delete this here, sorry.
In an other thread it maybe good informations for players, but please not here.

Kind regards,
Klaus
myevilluck
24-Feb-13, 21:30

20. ...h5
Thank you everyone for your patience. Especially Klaus. I take my vacation flag off and we get 3 feet of snow here and everything went crazy.




Anyways my next move was 20. ...h5 . The way I saw the board all the next moves were probably going to happen at some point, but it wasn't assured. In reality, I'm getting into a little bit of a bind, and figured I'd forced the issue on him a little bit to sway the game in a way I wanted and take away some of his flexibility in his pawn structure. I figure my position really has no play at this point, and is just kind of waiting it out to see, if white can pull something special.

ptitroque
24-Feb-13, 23:25

20. ...h5
I probably oversaw something but the black queen seems exposed. What if white advances his pieces, attacking the queen so that black has to retreat ?
klauno
25-Feb-13, 09:58

21. g5
@ ptitroque : you´re right, i could play Na5 attacking the black Queen, but how should the attack going on after Qc7 ?
So i first play g5.

20....h5 is a move born of the idea to avoid the white move h5 ! As i wrote some threads abouve, my goal was the pawn structure f3,g4,h5....
myevilluck stops this goal with using brute force. The h pawn moves a second time, and this move is not shown in databases i know !

Except for Bg5 (Na5 comes later) i see no alternates to the moves 21.g5
Perhaps it is a little stronger to play directly 21.Na5 as ptitroque says ?

Here is the position after 21.g5 0-0 22.Na5



I mean White has a little advantage now ? The Night has good Square on c6, the pawn on d5 is save in the moment. It is more easy for White to regroup the pieces faster as black can, because white has more room on the board !

P.S. How can I flip the board ? Pressing on flip doesn´t work ?
jkarp
25-Feb-13, 13:36

Transformations
As I note, I believe that transformations played a role in, this particular game between myevilluck and klauno. BTW, I have a thread about transformations, and that is shown below. gameknot.com
klauno
05-Mar-13, 12:49

myevilluck losts a lot of games by timeout !
After he took vacations he lost many games by timeout.

It seems this game can´t go on ?

He has 4 hours in this moment to make his move ?

Klaus

ionadowman
05-Mar-13, 13:54

Incommunicado...
...it seems as though myevilluck is out of communication for some reason. He did mention heavy snowfalls. Has he received an emergency vacation allowance at all? I like that feature, and have good reason to be grateful for it.

Speaking of myevilluck, it is a very apt appellation. Only one possessed of such propensity to misfortune would time out with the Black pieces in a position like this:
b
White has just taken a pawn on a3...

Nineteen-point-something rating points plus to his opponent, who could with justification rename himself mysacredfortune (though to be sure, he did very well to go 50+ moves with an opponent rated 1000 ELO higher...).
klauno
05-Mar-13, 14:10

Perhaps he had an emergency vacations, sure is only he had vacations before.

My English is too bad to understand the rest. mysacredfortune is no more on gk ???

bwaa
05-Mar-13, 14:14

Oh no!
He should have emergency postponement, but there are a variety of instances when it might not trigger. If he's just gotten back from a three week vacation, he might not have any vacation time left for the emergency postponement for instance...

Either way, if he times out before he gets back, you'll be able to continue the game by reinstating it.

Losing 250 rating points in a couple days, though... that's really rough  
jkarp
05-Mar-13, 14:43

Well, as you all said, I can understand. When Super Storm Sandy hit, as some of you remember, I postponed ahead of time by seven days. However, I lost power and cable for longer then that, so the emergency postponement had to activated. It was really rough, and, this time, my very worst fear became a reality, given the amount of time that power was out. I'm afraid that this could be a very similar situation to myevilluck. From what I heard, he not only had three feet of foot, but it was a blizzard, with wind gusts of 75 mph (hurricane force winds). This would be enough to knock out power for weeks, in which, he could time out on more games. Now, if he is not on for a month or longer, then I would start to worry about him, but at least one month has to go by, without him being on.
vocihc
06-Mar-13, 08:36

Thank you both
for this and it's ongoing commentary.
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