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 Dutch Defense game 2
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White plays the Staunton Gambit
1.d4 f5.
2.e4 fxe4.
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the Staunton gambit
was introduced early on as a refutation of the Dutch defense. But, as so often the case in chess, such "refutations" rarely survive the wheels of history. Also not in this case. At any rate, it is an interesting attempt by white to sacrifice a pawn in order to set up an attack on the black king side that is somewhat weakened already by f5.
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info
info on Staunton gambit ;www.youtube.com.
en.wikipedia.org
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Nice to see a staunton gambit.
Does someone knows in OTB games the % to play against a staunton gambit, with players under 2000 elo ?
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Note in particular
the beautiful freedom of space for white (who moves 3. Nc3) - of course for a price!
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White plays 3.Nc3 and Black responds with 3...Nf6
1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
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white's fourth move
At the turn of the 19th to the 20th century the move in fashion was 4. Bg5, which led to a large number of very beautiful wins for white. Somewhat later 4. f3 was considered to give the best chances for white by many specialists. stalhandske prefers the former, perhaps mostly for aesthetic reasons.
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so far all book.
1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Nc6
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are we moving too fast?
A major reason for this game is to be a teaching tool for Club members (although I have to admit that I enjoy it myself a lot, too ). We therefore need to know whether we move too fast, and we'll be grateful to know (again) whether there are ANY viewers.
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5.d5 Ne5
1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Nc6
5. d5 Ne5
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Dutch Defence
I for one really appreciate the effort our mentors go to in helping club members,As for the question as too going too fast, well I think a slower pacemight enable club to ask more questions and contribute more.
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I'm watching
But I can't comment much during the work day
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AS caveman
it's going to fast. And the opening is the most critical moment in gambit line (when we play without db or we are new in an opening) so just writte a main line is helpless. Not with the idea to be rude, just why not an other move than Nf6 so avoid it to be a target ?
And decline the gambit with e6 is it ok, to avoid to be in sharp line probably white no well ? and so just have a quiet game ?
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Just to add
it is an very interesting post \^-^/
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I like watching the Dutch Defense,too
Instead of 4...Nc6 some other moves are possible. c6 and g6 !
I myself prefer g6.objective considered the move g6 is not better than Nc6, both moves work on the square d4 . g6 after Bg7 . But the black Night have to move to e5 after white played d5.
And if white plays Qd4, the black Horse has to go to f7. 3 times moved with the same piece in the early opening stadium is the pawn not worth.
I like this position with black :
1.d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 g6 5.f3 exf3 6.Nxf3 Bg7 7.Bc4 c6 8.Qe2 d5 9.Bb3 Bf5 10. 0-0-0 a5 !
here black is a pawn up but with equal position. The black e pawn is behind, o.k but both sides have chances to attack .
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re: are we moving too fast?
most of the masters demo games fly by way too fast for me to keep up AS THEY ARE BEING PLAYED. But when I find the time I'll play through slowly, reading the comments and trying to understand. So I usually won't comment or ask questions while the games are going on. But I appreciate immensely that they are being played and all the discussion.
I don't think you could stand playing slow enough that I'd follow the games as they are being played. You're having too much fun.
I see the Staunton Gambit is mentioned. I got burned by that once. tough and surprising game (thought I had a win). so I'll be reading this topic at some point, ...with extra interest.
now the myevilluck-Klauno game was going at a pace that I was following as it was being played. but it's got really slow.
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my ancient book of openings
by Gideon Stahlberg (no, not related to stalhandske, berg means mountain and handske means glove) has a big section on the Staunton gambit (the book is from 1955). It considers black's move 4.....Nc6 "interesting", to which klauno seems to agree, although he presents other alternatives, too. The analysis in Stahlberg's book (which is really by Nimzowitsch) continues with 5. d5 Ne5, which was indeed played here. The question now, for white aka stalhandske (note: handske, not berg!) is move 6. which is Qd4 in the mentioned book.
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...is but a suggestion!
Rather than the suggested 6. Qd4 white plays 6. Qe2 (which is one of klauno's variants, his last one, albeit in a somewhat different position). Why, asks the audience (see the above good comments). Well, 6. Qd4 risks an eventual queen exchange on the D column, which I don't like. The GK data base also lists 6. f4, which I like in principle, but which I find too risky against such a strong opponent as Her Majesty. So, folks, there you are, nothing special.....but an extremely interesting game to come.....
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White plays 6.Qe2.
1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Nc6
5. d5 Ne5
6. Qe2 ...............Black will have to think on her next move.
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Black decides on 6....d6
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6...d6
a good move, c6 and Nf7 are the alternates. The Pawn on e4 will be lost in every way !
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His Lordship moves 7.0-0-0 so her 'Highness' plays 7....c6
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stalhandske
is blushing having been called His Lordship, and chaaaaarges! 8. f4
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charm works it seems.
having been 'hardened' in the Furnace of those two wild Benoni games i cannot help but be happy at this Cavalry charge. When Napoleon was indisposed at Waterloo.his second in command ordered a cavalry charge against Infantry wedges(something Napoleon would never do).
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White charges with 8.f4, black strikes back with 8...Bg4
1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Nc6
5. d5 Ne5
6. Qe2 d6
7. O-O-O c6
8. f4 Bg4
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charm always works
with stalhandske. That is his main weakness, although there are many more, too
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Napoleon and Waterloo
were almost two CENTURIES after stalhandske, who is not impressed about those "odd modern principles". A cavalry charge (à la stalhandske) is (almost) always successful.
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white moves 9.Qd2 and black plays 9....Ned7
1. d4 f5
2. e4 fxe4
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bg5 Nc6
5. d5 Ne5
6. Qe2 d6
7. O-O-O c6
8. f4 Bg4
9. Qd2 Ned7
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you saw that?
brigadecommander retreated with her knight from e5 to d7! Clearly as a forced response to the brilliant charge by stalhandske, whose military pride is deeply hurt by the shameful comparison of his bold cavalry charge to some unsuccessful movements by Napoleon's second-in-command at Waterloo.
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