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 supporting america
really? now that is just one hell of a comparison!
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Our volunteer US Army
After Vietnam war there is no more draft. Because of the failed economy, there is no problem recruiting unemployed young men and women for the military. So, we cannot blame Romney's sons for not joining the military. The problem will arise if he becomes president/ commander in chief and widens or escalates the wars abroad, needing more troops. Then, people will say," if you believe the wars are worth fighting for, why don't you send your sons?"
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illinawek
08-Oct-12, 13:05
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I have to side with Romney. Once again the question was answered by Romney in an "inartful" way. He should have said you can't make your sons join the service.
Lord knows, I have tried myself.
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i don't blame the sons
but his response is, um.... inartful, i guess. i find it quite disparaging of those who have chosen to serve - as if being on the campaign trail is comparable to going to iraq.
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That seems to imply that you find it quite disparaging for anybody to serve the country in any other way, other than the military, because in no other way is there the same level of risk.
You would berate other campaign workers too? (like Democrat campaign workers?) Are they or are they not serving their country too?
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illinawek
08-Oct-12, 13:49
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Inartful. That ought to be his middle name.
You can't force the little dears to join the service. Lord knows, I have tried.
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softy
not at all. i think police, teachers, firefighters, social workers, people building infrastructure, etc are all serving their country.
to compare these things to campaigning for your dad is idiotic. campaign workers are doing what they want to serve their political conscience. i would only berate them if they claimed to be serving their country. they are not. they are serving a candidate and/or a political party. surely you see the difference?
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Does a poiltician ought to be a veteran ?
Let me put the question the other way around. Does a poiltician ought to be a veteran ? Not, necessarily. There were good service men like, George Washington, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Harry S. Truman who later became presidents of US. Senator McCain is a good politician veteran but he was not elected president. I believe people have the rights to choose a politician who will better serve the country irrrespective of race, religion or gender and from all walks of life. In other words, selecting a right politician is unlike giving a privilege to disabled person. Even if a disabled person like Franklin D. Roosevelt could do the job, then there will be no problem people can select anyone who can do the job.
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anomalocaris
08-Oct-12, 14:31
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So
Now we are attacking how he answers trivial things like this? Oh ok, I am sold now. This guy is the new Hitler.
Was this even worthy or a thread? Hell if we are gonna talk about this kind of stuff I would be here all day starting Obama threads. Is this the type of thing of importance to you Jeff?
I had always hoped you were above the hard party lines. I know you have the intelligence to pull out of that mold. Do it!
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stinky
says the kettle
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rich mans war,poor mans fight.
during the civil war if you owned
200-niggers or more' you were excluded from the fighting. In the north if you 'paid' $250 you were excluded from the fight. History abounds in such tricks to avoid fighting. What i find amazing is both romney and his sons supported the war in Iraq. With great ardor, Yet declined to fight. Let someone Else's Son or Daughter get killed!!!. In my mind anyone who votes for this jerk is a brainwashed zombie!! There is no other way to say it. Maybe i could say 'completely misinformed indoctrinated fool' but its really the same thing. The draft aught to be reinstated. Even then rich folk would find a way to sidestep it. And Stinky; you say that this thread wasn't worth it. Yet i see you and a few of your cloned brothers on bodypolitic, and here, saying the most untruthful , and pusillanimous nonsense that i have ever read. Its really astounding that you wish zorro was 'above' party lines. He is far far far more intelligent then you are.You are like a inarticulate foxnews 1960's tape recorder. I'm sure your a great guy!! Ya just don't know what your talking about.
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anomalocaris
08-Oct-12, 15:40
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anomalocaris
08-Oct-12, 15:45
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Hey
I just had a thought. You guys have a great life,
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hennybogan1953
08-Oct-12, 16:26
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they did in the civil war
and that was the name of the law. I am mealy quoting. So buzz off!!!!
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The use of N-- words
en.wiktionary.org
In the United States of America, the word negro is considered acceptable only in a historical context or in proper names such as the United Negro College Fund. Black, which replaced negro from 1966 onward, or the more recent African-American (from the 1980s), are the preferred alternatives, with neither being categorically preferred as an endonym (self-designation) or by publications.
Prior to 1966, negro was accepted and in fact the usual endonym – consider The Negro, 1915, by W. E. B. Du Bois – which itself replaced the older colored in the 1920s, particularly under the advocacy of Du Bois (who advocated capitalization as Negro). Following the coinage and rise of Black Power and Black pride in the 1960s, particularly post-1966, the term black became preferred, and negro became offensive; in 1968 negro was still preferred by most as a self-designation, while by 1974 black was preferred; usage by publications followed.[1]
See also discussion at Wikipedia
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hennybogan1953
08-Oct-12, 16:38
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To all children,
The insensitive use of the N word is offensive and does not express the opinion of many members on this forum. Most Americans disapprove of bigoted remarks and racial slurs.
To all people of color and those of African decent,
On behalf of the members of this forum I apologize for the insensitive posting made by Brigade Commander it does not reflect the attitude of most members of the 1AF. Most of us believe that racial slurs are not in keeping with the American ideal of freedom and the belief that all men are created equal.
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hennybogan1953
08-Oct-12, 16:51
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As a warning to all,
We must all be on guard for racism and slurs wherever and whenever they rear their ugly head. I do not approve of the N word nor will I stand idly by while it is used to degrade fellow human beings. The use of the N word is never OK and the thought of an African child reading these forums and suffering a loss of self esteem is disappointing and disgusting.
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i was wrong.It was the '20' nigger law
they called it the 20-nigger law. Oh not amongst the southern gentleman in public but in writing and elsewhere in the south that's what they called it.. There are records of some poor southern white people that got drafted saying; 'i wish i had 20-niggers'. I'm not saying it,just reporting what was said.;en.wikipedia.org.
but whats your point ace_kyi?? i was referring to practice of the service exemption in both the south and the north. I am not advocating the use of the word just its historical context in this discussion.
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N-- versus White
Can somebody explain why N-- is offensive and derogatory compared to White ? I am an Asian of yellow skin. There is an experiment on African-American young girls who were given a choice of black and white dolls. The majority of kids selected white dolls. Why? I apologize if my questions lead to racial hatred. Mark Twain's novels are classis now and are prescribed in some schools. Some African -Americans object the use of N-- words in his novels and demand to be replaced. Some people disagreed. The reason is, how can we fully understand the racial interactions at that time, if important words are deleted. For example, Hitler and Stalin are ruthless dictators and kill millions of their own people and others. How can we understand history if we omit thier atrocities. We cannot turn the clock back.
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used in historical context is acceptable. just as, as ace points out, it is acceptable in huckleberry finn. offensive as the word is, using it in historical context allows us to understand its derogatory nature.
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hennybogan1953
08-Oct-12, 17:06
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They select white dolls because people like BC use racial slurs to describe people of color and perpetuate the cycle of abuse against a race of people. We must all work towards eradicating racism in all it's forms, no one gets a free pass, white, black, rich, poor, liberal, or conservative. Fight racism!
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the people in the north and south,
before,and during and after the civil war used this word. Henny is doing what zombies do best.That is to confuse the issue and manipulate even 'historical context' to mislead and blame. The really funny thing is he thinks he has an issue!! when in reality he is barren of ideas or cognitive thinking. But to get back to the thread.Namely that most rich people will avoid fighting for their Country even when supporting the War. Their are many exceptions to this.One good example is John MC Cain(who i would have voted for if he hadn't picked that B.... Moose from Alaska) Or John Kerry.These and many others served their Country. And they had enough money to avoid fighting if they wished.But i believe the vast majority of the very wealthy avoid it. They feel 'entitled' to sit it out. Its Human Nature. Just look at henny the fool, saying i use racial slurs when i was just pointing out what words people used back in History. Is that not the epitome of of ignorance?
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henny is doing what he does best - baiting you. he doesn't care a whit about you using the n word. he is just yanking your chain.
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Henny's assumption on selection of white and black dolls selection by African American young girls that they were influenced by racial slurs they heard is not true. They were tested on slightly older than toddler level kids who have no knowledge and understanding on racial issues. The same result will occur if Asian kids have the choice of selecting Barbie white dolls versus black dolls. That is , the kids will prefer Barbie dolls. I am not saying that by choosing white black is bad. For example we have day and night. I like daylight but we need dark night to sleep. In other words, diversity is the essence of life.
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Whom do we need ? More soldiers or capitalists.
Considering the current situation, do we need more good soldiers or good capitalists who can create more jobs for American and turn the economy around? IMHO, our nation needs a good capitalists like apple Steve Jobs or microsoft Bill Gates. Both of them have not served in the military. It will be detrimental to our economy if they are drafted into the military because the country will earn more revenue if they are still in their business and not interrupted by military service. The revenue earned from than can expand the war machine. We cannot bite more than we can chew. To send our young kids to war need a lot of support from our country. If America is not strong economically, how can we fight a war? Romney's kids are busy campaigning for his presidential election which is a temporary job. It is still early to judge what they will become or how they will serve the country. Every profession is important for the progress of our nation and not only the servicemen and women.
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