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 quotes thread II
~ Aldous Huxley
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"In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
- John Adams
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nenem
01-Aug-10, 17:37
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curious
Democracy has many meanings. Countries today are complex so are the amazing varieties of modern war. What do you mean by tyrant and how much information can he have? Highly trained burauracy? Trained in what. How to run a bureauracy. How to run a military operation and what type where? What of diverse countries. What if say ambassador disagree with chief general. Who and how is one trained to resolve that plus many many lower level disputes, Is the Afgran war a scientific one? Which PhD would you want to listen to and how do you know. I looked at comments in today's NYT and the local paper. Many seemsed reasoned but far from in agreement. How would I integrate all this with many other concerns we have. Is the process scientific. Would a perfect obedient bureauracy help or hurt either before or after a key decision is made. Yes I've read some of Huxley but long ago. I appologize if i am using this wrong I'm only guessing we can offer comments not just quotes. nenem
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sicilianunleash
06-Aug-10, 14:55
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Perfection
"The veil [of bondage] is very dense at first and the light may be almost obscured, but it is there [within us], ever pure and undimmed - the radiant fire of freedom and perfection" - A very wise man
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nenem
08-Aug-10, 16:13
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freedom and perfection
We have perhaps many fires variously defined. We need a lot more than slogans though they can inspire perhaps because they are impericse. Let us say Liberty, Equality, Fraternity. Wisdom or not? One needs to know a lot more for words mean different things. Books have been written on the Meaning of Meaning. I think I threw 2 out perhaps a year ago. Pictures may say something too. Yours may tell many stories that may not be the same. I know the picture on Time magazine about the Afgan woman who was badly treated can evoke many feelings but hopefully not a quick rush to action in a complex situation. We need reason and values and hopefully relevant experience and facts and a willingness to accept uncertainty.
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The man who loves other countries as much as his own stands on a level with the man who loves other women as much as he loves his own wife.
Theodore Roosevelt
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"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth."
Theodore Roosevelt
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sicilianunleash
18-Aug-10, 11:05
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Self
In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer.
Albert Camus
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Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.
~Plato
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sicilianunleash
30-Sep-10, 06:42
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The Self
No growth without assistance. No action without reaction. No desire without restraint. Now give yourself up and find yourself again.
- Crouchng Tiger Hidden Dragon
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“The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they're supposed to like, what they're supposed to buy, and what they're supposed to laugh at.”
~ Marilyn Manson
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I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
~ Robert A. Heinlein
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It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.
~ Robert A. Heinlein
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"Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to
invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too
much money."
--George Carlin
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There is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare.
~ Sun Tzu
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Stephen Roberts.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours".
Unknown.
"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned."
Delos B. McKown
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike"
René Descartes.
" If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things."
Albert Einstein
" Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
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"No god of any value would take sides"
From 'The Ambassador' (Edwina Currie)
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"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to
continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too
expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will
pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the
way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
~ Frank Zappa
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We all only live once. So we are obligated to make good use of the time that we have and
to do something that is meaningful and satisfying. This is something that I find meaningful
and satisfying… I enjoy helping people who are vulnerable. And I enjoy crushing bastards.
Julian Assange
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Any one of these recent quotes could be excellent topics for their own threads ... or, do we discuss their wisdom and/or validity here?
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chaz
whatever you like
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be dangerous. if you're not dangerous, you are not a threat to your enemies and no good to your friends.
~ richard rongstad
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Gambling promises the poor what property performs for the rich--something for nothing.
~ George Bernard Shaw
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to avoid losing a piece, many a person has lost the game.
~ savielly tartakover
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colbert
"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it."
— Stephen Colbert
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Know God Know War
No God No War
Unknown
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ha
i saw it this way:
know god, know peace
no god, no peace
i guess it is all perspective
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No god, know peace
Know god, no peace
... is yet another perspective
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mlk
A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom.
~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
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... on religion ...
"We have enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another."
~ Jonathan Swift [1667-1745]
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