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illia navy so strong in the 16th Century that the Ottoman Empire allied with it so that the Ottomans could dominate the Mediterranean (the "Great Sea") as much on the seas as much as it dominated the area on land -- a navy still so strong as the 19th century dawned, a scourge and a threat to the lives of Americans, that President Thomas Jefferson sent over the US Navy to wipe their boats from their Barbary Coast. |
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"Profit Muhammad" |
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shamashjust saying... |
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it's not the grammar. . . |
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intent?Libya & gripes about American motion pictures go way back, they were going to shoot Ben-Hur there in '58 till the Libyans cancelled that for "religious reasons." b) intent? am sure they are scrambling overtime in Cairo to rescue that multi-billion dollar foreign aid package that a high-powered delegation of American tycoons & politicians went over there and offered to the new Muslim Brotherhood regime about ten days ago. |
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Benghazi, Libya, September 14th: |
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not at all, chazwhat does he expect? The US State Department continually takes a stand -- right up to advocating invasion -- against countries which have chosen to have Islamic clerics rule -- Iran, Afghanistan, etc -- and expects the flawed, American political system to be welcomed, preferred, embraced? The US Government has interfered with or toppled regimes in many countries over there -- including Iran and Iraq on previous occasions in the 1930's and 1950's --> that Big Stick policy does not exactly earn the trust of, or make friends with, the people. And now US ally and former Mid East imperial landlord Great Britain is making moves to legitimacize a coordinated, pre-emptive strike against Iran -- In Britain they now ask: << "Are we going to war with the Iranians? A former Lib Dem defence minister is believed to have claimed that he was sacked from the government to "avoid a damaging coalition split over a pre-emptive strike on Iran". From the Mail on Sunday: "Former Armed Forces Minister Sir Nick Harvey told friends that he was fired in the reshuffle to allow Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg to sign Britain up to an Israeli-US preventive strike to take out Iran’s nuclear installations. Friends of Sir Nick – who was handed a knighthood just days later – say that he could have embarrassed the Lib Dem leader by being too critical of Israel’s actions if he had still been in the key Ministry of Defence post." On a related note, the growing possibility of an Israeli attack on Iran is also believed to be the reason that Muslim minister Sayeeda Warsi was denied the "Middle East and North Africa" portfolio when she was appointed 'Senior Minister of State' at the Foreign Office in the reshuffle." >> |
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Time marches on and History is about to repeat itself yet again. |
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Shamash ...There are two levels of Middle East activity, as I see it ... there are those activities that are typically political/economic that rulers, prez's, dictators, secretaries, prime ministers, etc. deal with. Most folks understand the CNN or Time Magazine version of these dances, and may even grasp some of the subtlety of oil and commercial motivations. The other are the people of the Middle East who are culturally residing in an ever-changing evolution ... to some extent content with their environment (it's what they 'know') coupled with perpetual pressure to move toward something more ethereal, more distant, more desirable ... something they do not have. There is some cultural jealously perhaps. Amidst this river of intermingling currents and eddies are those entities that have selfish ends in mind ... each for things they want or do not have. The West has been better at this, and continue to hone their skills. Perhaps you're saying similar things using different words. I'm just expressing how I see it. |
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