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zorroloco 24-Sep-12, 10:31	seniors and the election more and more boomers and seniors are drifting towards obama. why? three main reasons. 1) they strongly support obamacare 2) they are afraid of the romney/ryan plan for medicare 3) they do not like the rightward drift of the republican party. More and More, in Obama’s Corner By MICHAEL WINERIP Mitt Romney has just come off a couple of rough news weeks in his quest for the presidency, but if Clyde Tennyson, 62, of Hampton, Va., is as typical of the baby boom generation as polling data seem to suggest, there is more bad news to come. Mr. Tennyson, a designer at Hampton’s shipyard, voted for Senator John McCain in the 2008 presidential election. In that election, the boomers split their vote down the middle, giving Mr. McCain and Barack Obama 49 percent each. This time, Mr. Tennyson says he’s voting for President Obama, a shift that a sizable number of his fellow boomers are making, according to recent polling data. He’s angry about the Republicans’ talk of changing Medicare from government sponsored to a private voucher program. Though Mr. Romney swears it’s not so, Mr. Tennyson also fears that the Republicans will alter Social Security. “I’m going to need Medicare and so are my kids,” said Mr. Tennyson, who has three children ages 29 to 39. “I’ve been paying money into Social Security the last 40 years, and it’s all I’m going to have to retire on — I don’t want to hear a word about privatization. Not Medicare, not Social Security.” Mr. Tennyson is one of the 78 million Americans born between 1946 and 1964, known as the baby boom generation. In the most recent New York Times/CBS News poll, likely voters in roughly that age group favored Mr. Obama by 9 percentage points. In a Pew Research Center poll of likely voters, Mr. Obama is ahead, 50 to 44 percent, within that age group. “This is a significant change, and that generation’s vote counts for a lot,” said Scott Keeter, director of survey research for Pew. The boomers, who range in age from 48 to 66, account for 37 percent of all voters, according to Pew. Generation X — roughly 31 to 46 — makes up 26 percent. The youngest voters, ages 18 to 30, and the oldest, over 65, make up 17 percent each. The apparent shift could be offset by a softer level of support for Mr. Obama among the youngest voters, in the 18-to-29 age group, of whom 66 percent went for him in 2008, and potentially lower turnout. What is moving the baby boom voters? It may be Medicare. On Friday, at the AARP convention in New Orleans, the Republican vice presidential candidate Paul D. Ryan was widely booed when he mentioned repealing “Obamacare” and privatizing Medicare. The Great Recession had a major impact just as the older boomers were approaching retirement. The typical household income for those 55 to 64 has dropped nearly 10 percent since the recession, to $55,748 from $61,716, the biggest decrease of any age group. Lark McDonald, 51, who owns a small business in the Denver area, says he voted for Mr. McCain last time, and usually votes a straight Republican ticket, but is leaning toward Mr. Obama. He worries that the Republicans are moving too far right, he said, but he is also concerned they will dismantle the Obama health care program and make major changes in Medicare. “I take care of my father’s medical issues,” he said. “He relies on Medicare, and if we go to a voucher system, it will make everything harder to do.” According to the Pew poll, 69 percent of boomers say Medicare is “very important” to their vote, which is surpassed only by those 65 and older. Also, 54 percent of likely voters in that age group, according to the Times/CBS News poll, believe that Mr. Obama is doing a better job of handling Medicare, compared with 42 percent for Mr. Romney. And 30 percent “strongly approve” of the president’s health care program, the most of any age group. In the last election, Howard Litvack, 53, a finance manager of a car dealership in Franklin, Tenn., backed Ralph Nader, as a protest vote. This time, he says, he’s voting for Mr. Obama. “It’s more important this time to have my vote count,” he said. “There’s more at stake.” He is particularly concerned about the Republicans’ proposal for privatizing Medicare, which would apply to people under 55, including him. “It absolutely plays into this,” Mr. Litvack said. “I’m interested in how this will affect me, and believe me, it will affect me negatively.”
chaz5 24-Sep-12, 12:21	... I still say that raising the Medicare wage cap above $106.5K would solve a lot of the financial concerns and keep the system perfectly solvent ... and it wouldn't particularly hurt the middle class and anyone else earning less than that. On the flip side, Medicare isn't as efficient as it needs to be and the buying power of such a huge group ought to produce more savings for the government. I don't see many in medical fields declining Medicare business now; isn't there room for significant improvements?
mrconservative64 26-Sep-12, 19:15	OnamaCare is the worst thing for boomers... The life expectancy right now for someone in the U.S. is 78 for men and 80 for women. The government death panels under ObamaDoesn'tCare will reject any expensive life-saving procedures for boomers over the age-limit!
zorroloco 26-Sep-12, 19:25	mri death panels??? oh brother. i am not sure why i am bothering, but... do you think insurance companies care about your grandma?
brigadecommander 26-Sep-12, 19:43	victoid clone It seems Mad Scientists have cloned victoid.
ace_kyi 26-Sep-12, 20:42	seniors and erectile dysfunction To solve this problem make viagra available to senior citizens. They will be happy, productive and live longer!
chaz5 26-Sep-12, 20:46	ace ... ... but that might produce more unwanted population gains.
mrconservative64 01-Oct-12, 09:59	Mr Grandmother Is Long Dead... My mother always told me that if one didn't have anything intelligent to say then it would behoove them to keep their mouths shut. This advice seems to be made to order for many Obama voters.
mrconservative64 01-Oct-12, 10:05	Zorroloco I almost hope you people get your wish that Obama, the anointed one gets re-elected. It would be fun to see the future of what is laughably known as the youth of America go down the toilet!
chaz5 01-Oct-12, 10:16	... and the same biases bloom over and over again.
zorroloco 01-Oct-12, 11:59	Deleted by zorroloco on 01-Oct-12, 16:51.
dmaestro 01-Oct-12, 16:39	You can't reason with these types of conservatives. Death panels already exist they are known as for profit providers and insurers. As long as the rich make a profit conservatives don't care. They are afraid the government will protect the aged and ill exposing their lies. This election is critical. The right wing must be stopped from carrying out their nefarious agenda.
zorroloco 01-Oct-12, 16:52	mri how come you do not follow your ma's advice? seems disrespectful.
astinkyfart 01-Oct-12, 18:04	Well theres one old timer they didnt poll.
softaire 01-Oct-12, 18:51	Obama adviser admits: 'We need death panels' A top Democrat strategist and donor who served as President Obama’s lead auto-industry adviser recently conceded that the rationing of heath services under Obamacare is “inevitable.” Steven Rattner advocated that such rationing should target elderly patients, while stating, “We need death panels.” Rattner serves on the board the New America Foundation, or NAF, a George Soros-funded think tank that was instrumental in supporting Obamacare in 2010. Soros’ son, financier Jonathan Soros, is also a member of the foundation’s board. Rattner was the so-called “car czar,” the lead auto adviser to the Treasury Department under Obama. Last month, Rattner penned an opinion piece in the New York Times titled “Beyond Obamacare” in which he proclaimed “We need death panels” and argued rationing must be instructed to sustain Obama’s health-care plan. His comments have been virtually ignored by traditional media as the president campaign’s for a second term. “We need death panels,” began Rattner. “Well, maybe not death panels, exactly, but unless we start allocating health-care resources more prudently – rationing, by its proper name – the exploding cost of Medicare will swamp the federal budget.” Continued Rattner: “But in the pantheon of toxic issues – the famous ‘third rail’ of American politics – none stands taller than overtly acknowledging that elderly Americans are not entitled to every conceivable medical procedure or pharmaceutical.” Rattner lamented how Obama’s Affordable Care Act “regrettably includes severe restrictions on any reduction in Medicare services or increase in fees to beneficiaries.” Rattner said the numbers don’t add up unless Obamacare utilizes rationing. “If his Independent Payment Advisory Board comes up with savings, Congress must accept either them or vote for an equivalent package,” stated Rattner. “The problem is, the advisory board can’t propose reducing benefits (a k a rationing) or raising fees (another form of rationing), without which the spending target looms impossibly large.” Rattner singled out elderly patients for benefit cuts. He wrote: “No one wants to lose an aging parent. And with price out of the equation, it’s natural for patients and their families to try every treatment, regardless of expense or efficacy. But that imposes an enormous societal cost that few other nations have been willing to bear. Many countries whose health care systems are regularly extolled – including Canada, Australia and New Zealand – have systems for rationing care.” He concluded, “At the least, the Independent Payment Advisory Board should be allowed to offer changes in services and costs.” “We may shrink from such stomach-wrenching choices, but they are inescapable.” Rattner serves on the NAF’s 22-person board of directors alongside Jonathan Soros, CNN’s Fareed Zakaria and Google’s Eric Schmidt. Soros’ Open Society Foundation is a primary donor to the NAF. Other major donors include the Ben & Jerry’s Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Ford Foundation, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Google Inc. and the Rockefeller Foundation. Another donor is Free Press, a group that advocates for more government control of the airwaves and Internet. Free Press is also funded by Soros. Free Press was founded by Robert W. McChesney, an avowed Marxist who has recommended capitalism be dismantled “brick by brick.” The NAF, meanwhile, bills itself as bipartisan and “the radical center.” NAF fellow Michael Lind wrote, “Our goal [is] not to repeal the New Deal [of Franklin Roosevelt] but to adapt it to the circumstances of the 21st century.” Discover The Networks notes how the NAF approved of Obamacare because it would “offer a new image” of how Americans view dying; and it would help “patients and their families to recognize” that, “[S]ometimes ‘doing everything’ results in more burden than benefit. High-tech medicine can prolong life, but for some patients, it merely draws out the process of dying.” With research by Brenda J. Elliott. www.wnd.com
mrconservative64 02-Oct-12, 13:32	What we have here... is media bias that has reached unbelievable heights in trying to protect an incompetent affirmative action president. I hope that all you p.c. libs, like Chris(I'm Having An Orgasm Listening To Obama) Matthews realize that the "Anointed One" is having a ball making fools of you.
dmaestro 02-Oct-12, 13:52	I will happily vote for Obama. He stands between me and the robber barons while Romney is a robber baron. He cares for us. Romney doesn't.
mrconservative64 03-Oct-12, 11:07	Did You Know... That most single women vote their body parts? Unfortunately for the rest of society it's not their brains.
zorroloco 03-Oct-12, 11:32	mri you seem to have an amazing grasp of what others do. and an astounding ability to group diverse groups of people into a single like-minded entity. 'single women do this.' 'black people are like that' and you opine that others do not use their brains? that is one of the saddest and most ironic statements i have ever heard. did you know that you sound like a racist idiot?
mrconservative64 04-Oct-12, 10:54	Last Night Showed... That not only is the "Anointed One" a lousy president, but that the media has protected him to such an extent as to extinguish any mental toughness that Obama ever had. At this risk of sounding racially insensitive, you might say that last night's debate was a man against a boy!
zorroloco 04-Oct-12, 10:56	mri you continue to amaze with your profound insights. you are a legend in your own mind.
chaz5 04-Oct-12, 11:14	... some folks simply cannot consider anything outside their own, rather small box.
shamash 04-Oct-12, 14:13	D E A T H - P A N E L S ---- for the Old Ones Are we simply going to IGNORE the bomb that softy 3 days ago lobbed into the room?

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