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 NO VOTER FRAUD in Minnesotawww.minnpost.com. Never saw so many people fooled like this before.Wake up!!!! |
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fooled it is nothing but a thinly veiled attempt to steal the election. the politicians know this. the educated people know this. the only people who do not know this and who continue to hide behind the pathetic and empty cry of 'voter fraud' are unwitting dupes of the right wing. remember, facts mean nothing. war is peace. freedom is slavery. ignorance is strength. ~ george orwell |
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Associated Press – 2 hrs 16 mins ago....EmailShare Share1Print......ARLINGTON, Va. (AP) — The son of Democratic congressman Jim Moran of Virginia has resigned from his father's campaign after an undercover video shows him discussing a plan to cast fraudulent ballots. Patrick Moran had been a field director for his father's campaign. He said Wednesday he didn't take the man seriously and humored him, adding that he should have walked away. An organization led by activist James O'Keefe, Project Veritas, released a video showing an undercover operative pitching a voter-fraud plan to Patrick Moran. The plan called for casting ballots in the names of 100 voters who were registered but rarely voted. In the video, Patrick Moran expresses doubts about the plan but eventually tells the undercover volunteer to "look into it." |
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tit for tat stinky once again insulting my intelligence with 'garbage' an 'manure'.Frankly the stink wafting over from bodypolitic, is starting to 'foul' the air here in the real world.. |
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stinky it is like that video he posted purporting to show voter fraud in minnesota. he makes the leap from potential to actual, just like you are doing here. well, we are both potential millionaires, but we are not actual millionaires, and if we act like we are, we are fools. |
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if... Hart InterCivic is a national provider of election voting systems that are used in swing-states Ohio and Colorado. Private equity firm H.I.G. Capital, LLC bought out a “significant” portion of Hart in July of 2011, and now the majority of Hart’s board directors are employees of H.I.G. Four of H.I.G.’s directors, Tony Tamer, John Bolduc, Douglas Berman, and Brian D. Schwartz, are Romney bundlers along with former Bain and H.I.G. manager Brian Shortsleeve. Two of H.I.G.’s managing directors, Douglas F. Berman and Brian D. Schwartz, were present at the $50,000 per plate fundraiser where Mitt Romney made his notorious ”47%” comments. H.I.G. is the 11th largest donor to Mitt Romney’s campaign. H.I.G. employees have given $338,000 to the Romney campaign, outpacing even Bain Capital itself, which gave $268,000. but somehow, the right never mentions that. it appears they are more concerned with ensuring that black, brown, and poor people do not vote than in assuring the election is fair. |
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stinky as for the other post, i am just saying, if voter fraud was of genuine concern, voting booths and their security and non-partisan nature would seem very important. but, instead, all the right seems to be concerned about are incredibly rare cases of intimidation or seemingly non-existent cases of actual voter fraud. since they seem so concerned with potential fraud, isn't ownership of voting apparatus by the son of a candidate rife w/ potential for fraud? so why doesn't the right complain and whine about that? by the fact of focusing so narrowly on rare cases of individual fraud, and ignoring the potential for widespread serious fraud though the voting booths themselves, the right seems to implicate themselves in trying to suppress the votes of predominantly minority and poor voters - who, not coincidentally, vote overwhelmingly democratic. |
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Again Jeff Leaving out the actual meat if conservatives were truly concerned with voter fraud, theynwould look into this: but somehow, the right never mentions that. it appears they are more concerned with ensuring that black, brown, and poor people do not vote than in assuring the election is fair. I posted an actual event, you posted a very biased opinion. I did not post that to prove that fraud had occurred in Mn. I have no evidence of any voter fraud....ever! I do not and have not said voter fraud is a problem. You continually make up my stances and then argue them. I simply posted what I posted it to show why we should be vigilante when it comes to voting and ensure there is no cheating. When I think of accountability the color of a persons skin is the last thing on my mind. Apparently its a running point with the left. You can twist it however you like but making stuff up is not gonna make it true Jeff. I guess I cold have started a new thread but I think the result would have been the same. I post an article from the news, I somehow get attacked. Its constant here. Jeff lead by example, don't join the mob mentality. |
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event surely the two are at least comparable. <we should be vigilante when it comes to voting and ensure there is no cheating.> we agree. but we disagree on where the real danger lies. there is little evidence of widespread voter fraud of the type the right seems so concerned about. i am sure it occurs, but apparently very rarely. hardly worth implementing reforms that are shown by independent studies to dampen voter turnout and disenfranchise large segments of society. this is fact, not opinion. on the other hand, ownership and oversight of voting apparatus and software seems relevant. especially in the face of hard evidence that electronic errors, and/or fraud have in fact influenced elections (see below). yes. we need to be vigilant. but we must also, for the sake of the democratic process, do everything reasonably possible to help people vote, not discourage it. implementation of programs that reduce voting must be used only when shown to be necessary. what we need are not voter id laws. what is needed is a brand new, nationalized voting system. i know it is unconstitutional. but that is what is needed. a single voter data base. with all eligible voters in the country. by the way, if you are willing to give the indigent free and reasonable access to id cards, i am ok with requiring id. i like the idea of requiring id. it makes sense. but to do that, there has to be free id. otherwise it is a poll tax. and that is illegal. thevotingnews.com www.heraldextra.com www.dissidentvoice.org |
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