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brigadecommander
21-Nov-12, 19:36

Alert;...Something has been found on Mars
they are being very tight-lipped about it.They will not announce anything until all is confirmed.I can't even get anything from my Brother who works there!! He told me i shall have to wait.I get the same thing from other Scientist working at NASA. My intuition tells me something big is about to be announced. Something very important has been found on Mars.
www.nasa.gov.
www.longislandpress.com.

ig News From Mars? Rover Scientists Mum For Now, NPR

"The exciting results are coming from an instrument in the rover called SAM. "We're getting data from SAM as we sit here and speak, and the data looks really interesting," John Grotzinger, the principal investigator for the rover mission, says during my visit last week to his office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. That's where data from SAM first arrive on Earth. "The science team is busily chewing away on it as it comes down," says Grotzinger. SAM is a kind of miniature chemistry lab. Put a sample of Martian soil or rock or even air inside SAM, and it will tell you what the sample is made of. Grotzinger says they recently put a soil sample in SAM, and the analysis shows something earthshaking. "This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good," he says."

Curiosity Rover's Secret Historic Breakthrough? Speculation Centers on Organic Molecules, Wired

"The mystery will be revealed shortly, though. Grotzinger told Wired through e-mail that NASA would hold a press conference about the results during the 2012 American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco from Dec. 3 to 7. Because it's so potentially earth-shaking, Grotzinger said the team remains cautious and is checking and double-checking their results. But while NASA is refusing to discuss the findings with anyone outside the team, especially reporters, other scientists are free to speculate."
zorroloco
21-Nov-12, 20:13

jimmy hoffa?
is that what they found?
brigadecommander
21-Nov-12, 20:36

Deleted by brigadecommander on 22-Nov-12, 08:29.
softaire
22-Nov-12, 07:23

GO ROVER
Good one. I expect they will announce that they have found life, or at least the evidence of past life. That shouldn't surprising as I believe the universe is teaming with it. Eventually, we'll find it almost everywhere.
ed_norton
22-Nov-12, 13:50

Found
Consciousness found on Mars. Big deal.


Awareness is being in the right place at the right time to fully benefit from being at the Black Friday sales.

Life on Mars.....whats the big deal? Really...whats the big deal? There is life on this planet today. Like sixty bajillion million stars and we Earthlings have this ....hold my calls....gotta shop despite the economy.


It will be a bit ironic when folks searching for life ( bacteria seem to be holding their own in this solar system) in other solar systems find people way advanced over "US".



ace_kyi
22-Nov-12, 14:24

Perhaps, it is very much important as finding a G-spot.
shamash
24-Nov-12, 20:04

not moonshine, but Mars-shine
it would be awesome

Does it have to be a fossil of a life built? when even the building block of life would be awesome?

What was found does not have to be evidence of a life that once flourished --

it is enough if the molecular basis of physiological life has been found --
whether native to Mars, or having piggybacked inside a meteor from elsewhere in our solar system --
or even beyond, from some chemical oasis in our Galaxy.

["The Murchison meteorite that fell near Murchison, Victoria, Australia in 1969 was found to contain over 90 different amino acids, nineteen of which are found in Earth life. The early Earth was bombarded heavily by comets, possibly providing a large supply of complex organic molecules along with the water and other volatiles they contributed."]

I don't need an ET --

I would not need to see life to be amazed and inspired and transported --
don't even need a Methylomirabilis oxyfera bactrium, devouring methane and producing its own oxygen -- on Mars.

More than enough would be to see that a brook of water (source of hydrogen and of oxygen) once flowed on the fourth planet,
a river of methane, of ammonia ---
all feedstocks which in a lightning strike can yield up in first-round reactions:
hydrogen cyanide, formaldehyde, and other active, intermediate compounds
(like acetylene and cyanoacetylene).

The formaldehyde, the ammonia, and the hydrogen cyanide could next have reacted to form amino acids and other bio-molecules.

If water Was present on Mars, then water and formaldehyde could have been present together to (potentially) produce various sugars like ribose,
plus produce the nucleotide base, adenine.

Add carbon dioxide, nitrogen, hydrogen sulfide, and sulfur dioxide
to this primordial Martian soup --
you end up with amino acids, hydroxyacids, purines, pyrimidines, and sugars.

Early conditions on the red planet (and what makes it red?)
could have formed amino acids from the hydrogen cyanide and the ammonia

=====> and even yielded RNA and DNA nucleobases.

Add a volcano on Mars, and that could have generated another 22 amino acids, 5 amines, plus hydroxylated molecules.

(It's why volcanic islands on earth become rich in life: rich in organic molecules from the lava flow.)

Lots of hydroxylated molecules could have been formed from the hydroxyl radicals produced by an electrified steam:
water plus lightning.

The presence of carbonyl sulfide could have catalyzed the formation of molecules into peptides.

If there's carbon -- and then oxygen from the water --
you add that lightning, and you may well end up with a carbon dioxide reduction to carbon monoxide.

Ultraviolet light reacting with the water vapor & the monoxide:

UV-photolysis of water vapor with carbon monoxide yields aldehydes, organic acids, And
alcohols --

not moonshine, but Mars-shine!
brigadecommander
24-Nov-12, 20:15

Well put shamash
you should work at NASA!!! Yes even if just a few 'complex molecules' are what they found, it would be Awesome and earth shaking. If i were to guess (i can't get anything out of my Brother) i would speculate that they have found 'liquid water just below the surface'. My second guess would be 'special molecules'. Can't wait to find out.
zorroloco
27-Nov-12, 07:13

so....
what was the announcment?
brigadecommander
27-Nov-12, 11:22

news conference on Dec 2 or 3.
then we will find out.
chaz5
27-Nov-12, 13:08

... it was prob'ly a dust storm with high humidity.
tugger
27-Nov-12, 14:48

I've seen a few suggestions on some crazy website I frequent for the lulz...

Evidence of basic life,
Alien artefacts,
A human finger,
A Duracell battery.

I list them in order of liklihood. The last two, I seriously doubt.
ace_kyi
27-Nov-12, 21:25

God's creation versus Darwin's evolution.
The prevailing theory or majority of the people believed before Darwin's time was that God created everything including humans until Darwin came along. He revolutionized the theory of origin of lfe forms that they can evolve from simple to complex life forms. At that time people did not know anything about the basic building blocks of DNA and RNA which are like legos. If there is another planet similar to earth with same type of composition, air, water, minerals, temperature, etc. and if given enough time for many millions of years, life will emerge. Mars is similar to earth but has smaller size, rotate longer than earth and is colder because it is farther away from sun. Besides, it has very thin atmosphere and becasue of this shortcomings on mars, probably primitive life forms or just building blocks of chemical can exist. Even if definite life forms do not exist on Mars, I still believe there will be plenty of life forms in distant planets rotating around suns ( stars ) many light years away. Because of recent advances in technology we are now finding many earth like planets in far away galaxies. The problem is the long distance from the nearest suns and its planets. There is no way of communication with the current technology to faraway planets at this time. I believe evolutition is true and if we can find life forms in the far away planets, then we can prove that Darwin's theory is correct.
tugger
27-Nov-12, 21:43

I'd say the chances of there not being life elsewhere in the universe is somewhere around the same chance that my head is going to explode before I post this.
tugger
27-Nov-12, 21:43

I JUST PROVED LIFE IS OUT THERE!!!!!
tugger
29-Nov-12, 08:54

BC, those links are dated 2010.
brigadecommander
29-Nov-12, 09:25

sorry about that
i was too hasty.Here is the correct link;www.wired.co.uk
tugger
29-Nov-12, 09:31

Thanks! I didn't notice at first.



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