|
|
| From | Message |
|
The four killed in Libya was after the 'coup' not during any war with the US. Different set of idiotic circumstances. Th US are bound by NATO just like any other signatory, regardless of congress. If you don't like it get your politicians (and military thinkers) to pull out of NATO. Afghanistan has been fighting within itself for hundreds of years. I would agree a mass pull out of ALL forces (including Australian ones sucked in by US decisions. It wasn't Obama that sent the troops in). Union thug? Not really. But corporations can in some circumstances be considered 'people' in the US, much like zygotes, yes?
|
|
you're being way too ambiguous for this discussion.
Who were the "four" in Benghazi and what were they doing there? How do you know they were not killed in a time of war? Since when were we obligated to go to war in Libya? They did not attack us. And Obama STILL did not talk to Congress before sending our sons and daughters to kill people. Obama SENT 30,000 Troops in after McChrystal asked for forty-thousand. Obama can't even support his Generals even though they've been life-long defenders of the Constitution. He's never defended the Constitution. And so we are pulling out because he could not get the job done. By the way, have you been there? I've deployed there three times. I was a career Airborne Infantryman. You're considered people, I guess. After Michigan's Governor signed law debasing the power of unions, you saw the thugliness when they attacked and assaulted the the press who were covering the event. I'm sure Herod considered the Jewish children "zygotes", too. After all - one of them was going to be the King of Kings. But like a poor, clumsy politician, Herod missed. Innocent blood gets shed when leadership declares war on God.
|
|
Now you are just starting to sound nuts art. Afghanistan didn't attack you either, neither did Iraq, neither did a multitude of places the US sent troops in the past couple of decades. No I have never been 'there', I haven't had the misfortune to serve in any military. As I said, I would like to see ALL troops out of Afghanistan, including American ones. They (and you) were sent to fight a war that cannot be won. But then again I do not profess to be an expert on warfare, but I do follow history a little. You are people too art, are corporations? Union thugs and Michigan have something to do with my posts? Herod and God? Wrong thread. Bible spouting next door please.
|
dmaestro 18-Jan-13, 07:28
|
W bush failed to send enough or keep enough troops to Afghanistan to get Osama or keep the Taliban at bay. He sent in a small fraction of the 400k asked for by the general into Iraq, instead sacking him, a huge error leaving unnecessary death and chaos, and he burned our forces out with too many redeployments. When you hate Obama nothing else matters.
|
|
I seem to remember a very high ranking officer resigning like 2 years ago because Obama was such a miserable prick and wouldn't send enough troops to Afghanistan. But whatever, that must have been a huge lie. *lol*
|
dmaestro 18-Jan-13, 08:42
|
Afghanistan was lost before Obama got into office and even Republican gates knew it was a an uphill battle. Mccrystal resigned because of ill advised comments to the press and blames himself. Patraeus did the best he could with Hail Mary efforts and was rewarded with CIA job. If I didn't know you were simply deluded and incompetent when it comes to history and your readily disprovable democrat hating fantasies I would think you were a chronic liar. You aren't even good enough to be convincing.
|
|
Afghanistan didn't attack you either, neither did Iraq
9-11/ World Trade Center/ United Flight 93/ Pentagon; Operation Desert Shield/ Desert Storm/ No Fly Zone/ Plot to assissinate President George H.W. Bush ... I thought we not longer got involved in unecessary wars, Obama? Why Libya? Why Mali? Have you ever considered yourself a hypocrite for accepting the Nobel Peace Prize while being a Commander-in-Chief who neither ended wars nor closed Guantanamo?
|
|
"I haven't had the misfortune to ..."
- win Cold Wars - liberate Eastern Europe - liberate Germany - liberate South Korea - liberate Europe (x2) - liberate Kuwait - liberate America students in Grenada - liberate Albanians in Kosovo - liberate Bosnians in the former Yugoslavia - liberate Afghans - liberate Panamanians - assist Pakistan in the time of earthquakes - assist Haiti in the time of earthquakes - assist Japan in the time of earthquakes/ tsunamis - tell the quasi-neo-Marxist-Soviet-blowhard-douche-bags on G.K. to get their head out of their butts and wake up to reality because a world with American military, political and economic power is going to SUCK like there is no tommorrow. History teaches that, Clones.
|
|
Union thugs in Michigan and Wisconsin and Chicago
Are richer than corporations and keep the Dems in power. Has everything to do with this discussion.
|
|
Herod
Is pretty much what we are stuck with in office. Obama is just another heartless individual that does not care about a mass murderer like abortion doctor George Tiller. Mother Teresa understood that side of America - do you? Did you know that child sacrifice is a very old idea? Not new at all? After all, the Bible is a history book. Your criticism is ill-placed.
|
|
What comments ...
- did McChrystal say? I need direct quotes - not spin. Tell us what he said that would have gotten him fired?
|
|
Petraeus was taken out of the field ...
Like fish are taken out of water. He is a consumer of intelligence, not a generator. Obama feared he would do what he did in Iraq - win it all. And such a person becoming bigger than Obama would be much less a threat by keeping him in Washington. Everyone knew about Petraeus and his affair - they just did not want to pull that Ace out until the right time came along. Which is right about the time Benghazi blew up in their faces. So the former General became a casualty in the cover-up. And it is a cover-up, dripping with blood. Just like Fast and Furious. Watergate was bloodless.
|
|
wow! now i have to type something else because my post is too short.
|
|
art you really are a ranting bad tempered individual. You seem to take great delight in taking anything you do not like out of context completely in an effort to inflame or incite. Have you not seen the list of US military involvement in the past hundred years or so? Not all of them have been to 'liberate' anyone. Next you'll be telling me I would be speaking German, Russian, Chinese, or Japanese if it wasn't for America. Knock yourself out with the diatribe, it is plainly obvious you do want conversation. Perhaps you could put the hammer away for awhile and actually converse sensibly now and again.
|
|
What I have written.
I have written. The fact that you do not like it matters not to me.
|
|
I didn't say I didn't like it, I think it rather funny!
|
|
Do whatcha gotta do.
I'm headin' out to enjoy some ramen. Peace.
|
|
Mahatma Gandhi
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win."
|
|
art
i am stuck at stage two. lol.
|
|
Wealth Re-distribution
All you wealthy socialists need to live by example and give me some money. It's only fair that everyone has the exact same opportunity.
|
|
Perhaps you could petition Bill Gates?
|
|
George -
Soros. Your Buddy.
|
|
art
what are you talking about? i am wealthy? soros is my buddy? i teach public high school. how wealthy do you think i am? want some money? get a job.
|
|
I get a pension.
And I have a job. But the more you Loons talk about 'wealth re-distribution' the more I see people leaving the work force. Seems to me that if Obama would want to fix the economy he would make it easier for businessmen to hire people. But instead, he chooses to over-regulate and over-tax the job creators. Solid plan. Soros is writing the script and we are just following it.
|
|
art
you are quick to generalize, categorize and stigmatize. but your remedies ate shallow and disproven. deregulation is not the answer and neither is big tax breaks to big business. i am all for tax breaks for small businesses, by the way. especially if they treat workers well and are green.
|
|
art
You attitude is not good and will not work here. Your remedies (ate?) are shallow and disproven... they will not work here either. Get with the program so that we can all just get along. btw... you have a job AND a pension? Why you double-dipping capitalist. You better be paying YOUR fair share of taxes. I'm incensed.
|
|
Because Reagan was such an awful President
Yeah, you did a really excellent job explaining why this regime got four people killed in Benghazi, why we spent 500 million dollars on Libya when it accomplished absolutely nothing towards US interests, why Fast and Furious got hundreds if not thousands of Mexicans killed (along with a US Agent.) Here's my solution: don't start a Libya if you're a Nobel Peace Prize Winner! What a concept! Is Libya in NATO? No? Then don't go there! disaster averted! You want to track cartels in Mexico? Put transponders in weapons! Problem solved! Oh wait, Bush already did that! THEN CONTINUE YOU OPERATION WIDE RECEIVER, OBAMA! Seriously, a bunch amateurs in the White House did nothing except sell away our sovereignty in the world. If a General asks you for forty-thousand troops, ask him if he needs fifty-thousand! Tell him you are serious about this job and your position. Because you did not come here to lose wars. Green energy? lol @ Solyndra! There's another 500 million dollar mistake right there! Talk about shallow-and-unproven! I see that you are not an Equal Opportunity Employer when it comes to tax breaks, by the way! You're another 'wealth redistribution' stooge who puts a cap on people's earnings! Nice, glad Big Government is still alive-and-well! Tell me, how much did Al Gore sell his TV Netork to Big Oil for? Did he try to skip out on the new taxes before the 1st day of 2013? Ha ha I absolutley love the hypocrisy!
|
|
SUCK on my attitude!
I don't care if your panties are in a wad or whatever. Use a sanitary napkin. Go ahead and talk about my money. I didn't enlist in the Army to serve YOU but you slept at night and didn't wake up dead. So someone laid in the snow with a poncho and an assault rifle but did you ever bother to thank them? Have you ever cheated on your taxes or personally delivered beans and bullets to Privates who are doing the work? So I did 23 years service and I fulfilled my contract. And I fed a family doing it, I never wanted to be rich. But now I work in the private sector and your obvious ignorance of the laws shows that you don't have a clue when it comes to public service pensions and benefits. I'm so glad you took a vow of poverty and live in the wild while preaching your 60's hippie gospel of socialism to us. You're just a small-minded individual that wants someone else to be in the field while you armchair quarterback. Thanks for your commentary.
|
|
art
It is a little difficult to ascertain who your latest rant is intended for. Could you please clarify? If it was intended towards softy I think he might disagree with you on a 'couple of points'. Towards z perhaps? Like water off a ducks back I would think. Towards me (I can't see where or why actually)? I still think you are getting quite angry over something you are under a misunderstanding about. Do you have a point?
|
|
If the shoe fits.
Wear it. What don't I understand about my country? I've lived.
|
|
|