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tat3225 24-Jan-13, 05:21	Liberals: It's jump off a bridge day! I heard that Obama wants everyone to jump off a bridge today in collective unity! If a bridge cannot be found, a highway overpass can be substituted. You can also eat steaming dog poo or spiders if there are no overpasses in your area. This action will rally support for gun control and Obama needs your help. So, if you love Obama, get going and find that bridge, overpass, the neighbors dog or some spiders! Show your support!! Don't worry about the water below or the vehicles traveling at high speeds, It's just a right-wing myth that these things are harmful. Also it's a right-wing conspiracy that dog poo and spiders taste bad. They're delicacies elsewhere. I'll do it too because it sounds fun (don't you think it sounds SO fun?) and I'm making an effort to be less partisan, but first I'm going to stop at Starbucks. You guys go ahead without me, and then you can watch me jump or eat poo after you do, ok? *runs off to Starbucks snickering* ........
musket33r 24-Jan-13, 05:53	Not as good as #cutforbeiber
zorroloco 24-Jan-13, 06:56	<I'll do it too because it sounds fun> somehow, i have absolutely no trouble believing this... <runs off to Starbucks snickering> a hint... drink good coffee instead of that starbucks crap... maybe it will improve your reasoning skills
tugger 24-Jan-13, 10:16	"The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur."
tat3225 25-Jan-13, 10:06	Starbucks beverages are definitely not crap! That is a chain serving up quality and tastiness in record time. I can't even drink their coffee because its so strong that I start shaking and sweating. I love their lattes and chai tea lattes though. I like the attention to detail at Starbucks. The cups are quality, as are the lids and sleeves, and I like how they provide the green stopper/stirrer thing for the hole in the lid.   I just love Starbucks.    The employees always seem happy and make an effort to serve everyone as quickly as possible. I am the most shameless sucker for customer service.
tat3225 25-Jan-13, 10:08	Lol cutforbieber......I forgot about that.
zorroloco 25-Jan-13, 10:20	yeah ok starbucks isn't really that bad. and they do customer service right. i just boycott them because they are not small local businesses. when i drink coffee out, i always patronize small local coffee shops - love supporting small local business in lieu of big (albeit local) corporations. also, the coffee is way better in a small coffee shack - well... mostly. and if it is not, i do not go back. and .... i will admit... i do go to starbucks periodically - because my students sometimes give me starbucks gift cards.
chaz5 25-Jan-13, 11:44	... I'm with tat on this one. Starbucks is high quality. They know my name ... and my drink ... before I ask for it. They hire and train their staff well. It's a comfortable place to go ... one of life's little luxuries.
zorroloco 25-Jan-13, 12:01	lol it is a seattle thing... the rest of the world thinks starbucks is great coffee... but in seattle, it is considered mediocre. we take our caffeine delivery systems seriously in the northwest!
tugger 25-Jan-13, 12:07	I would like to posy my opinion about Starbucks, but I'm a moderator and I should set an example. Here, let me press sh**/8 lots of times to get my point across... **********************
tugger 25-Jan-13, 12:08	Ha that was supposed to say shift, what an awesome typo.
mrconservative64 25-Jan-13, 12:27	I found out something today.. that liberals don't like Starbucks. Hmm, must be that the owner of Starbucks thinks that gays are queers, and that gun control is a complete waste of time(sort of like listening to a Biden speech).
zorroloco 25-Jan-13, 12:29	mr i liberals do not like starbucks? wtf? are you on drugs? why would you think that?
tugger 25-Jan-13, 12:40	I think it's just that anti-capitalists and anti-corporate types are likely to be liberal, so there's probably some grounds to that. I'm probably branded a liberal due to not liking Bush. I think that's the depth of their thought process.
zorroloco 25-Jan-13, 12:45	tugger liberals are dumb anyway. weak, lily livered pansies. they think a few small changes and everything will be ok. they are almost as misguided and foolish as today's conservatives (who think if we just went back to 1958, everything would be fine). the only people who, in my book, know what the hell is going on are radical leftists. people always think i am a liberal - just shows how silly they are. i do not advocate small changes. i advocate revolution. and obama is not a good president - just 45 times better than bush and 25 times better than romney would have been.
chaz5 25-Jan-13, 13:20	... and I wish Henry Clay liked Starbucks, and would emerge on today's stage and show us how to live side by side and disagree while sipping an espresso.
mrconservative64 25-Jan-13, 13:22	What's Was Wrong With 1958? It was a good year, Dwight D. Eisenhower was president, the budget was balanced, the blacks still didn't know that they had a problem, and I was having fun in grade school!
tat3225 25-Jan-13, 13:30	I've been to Seattle. I wanted to see with my own eyes the former USSR statue of Lenin that was supposedly erected in public on a street corner. When someone first told me about it I thought it was a joke. A nod to the socialist ideas that are very much present in Seattle. It's not a joke. People in Seattle have erected a statue that had previously stood in the Ukraine, the place where socialism starved millions to death, for most of the 20th century. It was joyfully torn down by the Ukrainians after the fall of the USSR and discarded for scrap. It was preserved by someone for it's "artistic" value, and brought to the United States where people in Seattle decided to glorify Lenin and the millions who died as the result of his ideology by putting this statue on a busy street corner.
zorroloco 25-Jan-13, 13:32	<the blacks still didn't know that they had a problem> i think what you mean here is that the whites did not know that the blacks knew they had a problem. you are too young to remember, but maybe you have heard about the montgomery bus boycott in 1955/56? why do you think the civil rights movement gained so much steam in the 1950's? because black people were at the back of the bus, going to crappy, run down schools, getting lynched, and unable to eat in most white establishments. but it is typical conservative thought: i did not know about it so there wasn't a problem. but it is great that you were having fun in grade school.
tat3225 25-Jan-13, 13:35	So anyway.... .....yeah the coffee culture in Seattle is definitely very hipster and anti-starbucks. I can't say that the small coffee shops have beverages that taste better than starbucks but perhaps they do. I didn't really notice, not that I went to enough to really know. Not to argue about this, because I don't really think that there is a right or wrong here, but I don't go to small businesses just for the sake of going to small businesses. I think that it enables mediocrity and lowers the bar. This is not to say that a small coffee shop isn't as good as Starbucks....it very well may be. But in my experience they are not. Whether it be the lighting, the cups, the drinks themselves, something just isn't the same.
zorroloco 25-Jan-13, 13:38	tat i do not go to small businesses unless their product and service is good. there are many i will not walk into. but, all else being equal, i will always give my business to small business over corporate because small business is what makes america great while large multinationals are raping the world and destroying all that makes places unique and interesting.
tat3225 25-Jan-13, 13:47	I probably sound like I'm hating on Seattle and I'm not, it's a nice city. But I feel like the entire economy in Seattle is built on huge corporations that are literally the complete evil opposite of what the huge hipster boutique culture in Seattle believes in and endorses. I'm not criticizing it, I just noticed it almost right away when I was there. I don't really know if the entire Seattle economy is built on companies like Boeing, I don't know enough about business and economics to really be able to know something like that. But it seems like the boutique culture that the hipsters love is supported almost entirely by these gigantic corporations.
zorroloco 25-Jan-13, 13:56	yup seattle was built on big corporations - boeing, starbucks, microsoft (redmond actually), costco (issaquah), etc. but there is also a long standing and important culture of supporting small local business here. and that culture is not supported by the large corporations, although certainly they add to the tax base and employ a lot of folks. here is what the seattle chamber of commerce says: Small and multicultural businesses are the heart of the Chamber. More than 80 percent of our 2,200 member companies have less than 100 employees. Thirty percent of members have 10 employees or less.
hennybogan1953 25-Jan-13, 15:01	As long it tastes good and is a good value I don't care if they make coffee using slave labor, machines made of conflict diamonds using unregulated nuclear reactors greased with clubbed baby seal brains, and each cup lowers the global temparature by .000000000000001 degrees and destroys the ozone and all the profits go to Bernie Madolf. And You can't get coffee in the drive thru coffee shacks in and around Seattle, you have to get sissy Americanas and lattes. And I no longer drink Dunkin Donuts, too inconsistent, sometimes it's coffee heaven and other times it'is burnt warm surgery pee water! And 7/11 is the best coffee place.
tat3225 25-Jan-13, 16:03	"I was having fun in grade school! " (in 1958) I feel extremely young all of a sudden.
tat3225 25-Jan-13, 16:05	hennybenny LOL!!!    That was hilarious.   Dunkin Donuts is grooooosssssssss x's 10.
shamash 25-Jan-13, 16:37	tat's 500-year old prescription, in the shades of Luther Martin Luther, that is (1541), to Dr. Justus Menius: "If a Jew were to ask baptism at my hands, I would take him to a bridge, tie a great stone round his neck, and hurl him into the river."
hennybogan1953 25-Jan-13, 17:54	1. Borat did a song about that, Jews In a river or well or something. 2. Seattle has a weird statue of some naked dude reaching out to a naked boy. It is sickening and not fit for an American city. Too many gay things in Seattle and God has punished them with 340 days of rain and they are mostly shunned by the rest of the nation. Seattle jr. (Portland) even had a Gay mayor!

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