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 hugo chavez dead at 56 |
dmaestro
05-Mar-13, 17:14
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He did indeed. And despite his faults the poor are better off and the income gap is less that any other Latin American country. RIP, Hugo!
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DM...
<He did indeed. And despite his faults the poor are better off and the income gap is less that any other Latin American country.>
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Gee, do you think that might have something to do with Venezuela's oil reserves?... lol
"For years, the torrents of oil flowing from Venezuela’s giant energy reserves have dwindled. From a peak of 3.5 million barrels per day, the country’s output has fallen to less than 2.5 million.
Now, the death of Hugo Chavez offers the promise of domestic oil market changes that could roil the energy world and place substantial opportunities at the feet of Canadian oil companies whose expertise in heavy crude is directly applicable to Venezuela’s Orinoco oil fields. Venezuela, after all, boasts the world’s largest crude reserves. The country’s ability to exploit them has been constrained by a lack of investment in dwindling older fields and the regime’s hostile treatment of foreign capital."
www.theglobeandmail.com
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dmaestro
05-Mar-13, 17:34
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Yes he used the oil revenue to help the poor with mixed consequences. Robin Hood had mixed reviews as well.
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"...Gee, do you think that might have something to do with Venezuela's oil reserves?... lol..."
Could this possibly be because Chavez used the money for the people in the most part, unlike in the US or anywhere else where the few keep all the money generated?
No doubt his death will catapult yet another attempt by the US to 'steal' Venezuelan oil reserves.
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change
How much oil did the U.S. "steal" from Iraq after either of the wars that we won?
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dmaestro
05-Mar-13, 18:16
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The neocons tried but failed.
Imagine...
Imagine there's a country, it isn't hard to do, where the people get the money, the money they are due, instead of all the capitalists, robbing the people blind, you may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, someday enough people will join us, and the world will be as one...
RIP, Hugo...
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dm....
You no doubt missed this part of my post:
"Venezuela, after all, boasts the world’s largest crude reserves. The country’s ability to exploit them has been constrained by a lack of investment in dwindling older fields and the regime’s hostile treatment of foreign capital."
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hennybogan1953
05-Mar-13, 19:42
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Full Nelson
youtu.be
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Chavez stopped US oil giants from moving into Venezuela and milking it dry. That was the problem with the hate campaign against him in the US. Anyone who doesn't think that was the case should take a look at what is happening in places like Niger and what the oil companies are up to!
www.globalissues.org
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... aren't the oil companies above reproach?
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Only when backed by 'military means'.
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Change ...
... are you talking about the military-industrial complex? Or, merely contemporary business models?
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Long but worth reading, especially towards the end:
concernedafricascholars.org
I think there is little doubt that the same tactics would be put in place if the US were allowed access to Venezuelan oilfields! Chavez would not allow US concerns into Venezuelan oilfields, this is why he was hated so much in the US!
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hennybogan1953
06-Mar-13, 04:52
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Awesome news! I hope we can get more oil now. Get it down to below 2 dollars a gallon!
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Hugo sold us plenty of oil. Now holy man Pat Robertson has one less person to wish death upon.
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Sold being the operative word, but no real access to the fields.
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... didn't Hugo Chavez also provide some free refined oil or gasoline to some Americans in the Northeast after some weather ordeal?
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I believe he did. Love him or hate him, he was a 'different' character.
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Change ...
... his people sure love him. When I was in Venezuela, I could tell they loved Americans too (most South Americans hold Americans in high esteem), but they could not understand why there was so much hostility toward Chavez. Was his acts of friendship toward Iran merely a counter balance against the US?
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600.000 barrels of oil yearly to China (200,000 to pay off debt). I think it very possible that Chavez dealt with Iran to piss the US off. The US has not been known to condone socialism (or communism) so close to home. The problem for Venezuela now is what comes next. The social reforms introduced by Chavez (and paid for by oil revenues) is teetering on the brink and are unsustainable at current rates due to oil production being ever less and less.
I'm watching news around the world right now on the man's death. It is telling that tributes are pouring in from China, Niger and other 'oil' producing African nations as well as Iran. Not too many from western industrialized nations.
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Venezuelans are celebrating in South Florida
www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com
And in Venezuela
www.youtube.com
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hennybogan1953
06-Mar-13, 08:55
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When communists die an angel gets wings.
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bill
yes. some are. but more are mourning.
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... Chavez was a popular guy ... of course there's going to be those who mourn. Those who celebrate his death prob'ly decline to understand the man for who he was or accepts without question that he was an enemy. Life's like that, I s'pose.
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What if the Venezuelan people elect a guy to the left of Chavez? Are we going to keep shunning them? Chavez was elected, got thrown out by a military coup, reinstated by the people less than 24 hours later, then re-elected. He was clearly the people's choice down there. I will bet they will elect another leftist to run that country.
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dmaestro
06-Mar-13, 12:06
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The people have the right to elect someone like Chavez.
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... the people have the right to elect anyone they choose.
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