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zorroloco
29-Aug-06, 16:17

books and movies
here you can list a few of your favorite books and movies that you think others should see or will enjoy.

jeff's reading list:

'at play in the field's of the lord' by peter mathieson - an extremely powerful book set in amazonia. deals with the impact of western invaders on indigenous people focusing on a family of missionaries. wonderfully written, important themes, one of the best books i have ever read.

'autobiography of malcolm x' - i assume most have read this important book. if not, a must read.

'shogun' by james clavell - i am not an historical fiction aficionado, but this is just an all around great novel. if you like it, read clavell's other work as well (tai pan, king rat, nobel house)

films: (i will warn you, i like unusual, cult films)

'harold and maude' - best movie of all time! with ruth gordon and music by cat stevens...seen it 14 times and still enjoy it!

'the brother from another planet' - oddball comedic drama with joe morton as the brother...cannot even begin to tell you the story of this one, but a fun way to spend a couple hours.

'bowling for columbine' by michael moore - much less propagandistic than farenheit 9/11, and a much better movie. humorous, tragic, real! the video footage from columbine was incredibly difficult to watch. a movie that asks questions and does not provide answers. important movie.

'alien' - one of the scariest and best made movies of all time

'swimming to cambodia' - a film that is actually a monologue by spaulding grey. it chronicles the making of the film 'the killing fields' but ties in his personal story as well as the history of the vietnam war, the bombing of laos and cambodia, and the genocide in cambodia. hard to imagine a riveting 80 minute monologue movie...but this is it!
eldude
29-Aug-06, 16:30

movies and books =D
reading list-
Eragon and Eldest b Christone P. Fantasy

Inkheart and Inkspell by Cornelia Funke Fantasy

Lord of the rings and the hobbit by Tolkien Fantasy

Redwall sieres by Brian Jaques Fantasy

Illidad by Homer Historical fiction

Odessey by Homer Historical fiction

Just to name a few... I wont try to go on forever
MOVIES

Alien and Predators Action
Shanghia Noon Comedy
X-men Action
Monty-Python and the holy grail! Comedy
Young Frienkstine Comedy
One upon a time in China 1,2, and 3 Action
Crouching Tiger hidden Dragon Action
Hero Action

I could go on forever but I donr feel like it
proginoskes
29-Aug-06, 18:03

Books:

Dark Tower Series by Steven King - hands down the best modern fantasy fiction EVER

Ender Wiggins Series by Orson Scott Card - the best Sci-Fi stuff I've ever read, starts with Ender's Game

Crossing the Rubicon by Mike Ruppert - best evidence for a criminal conspiracy at the highest levels of the
Bush amdinistration (Mike's wrong about "peak oil" but don't let that turn you off)

Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast - investigative journalist from the BBC, blows wide open the peak oil
scam amoung other things (cannot seem to get his stuff published by mainstream media, wonder why)

Right With God Right Now by Desmon Ford - the most beautiful explanation of the gospel from the Book of
Romans I have ever read, changed my whole paradigm

Alcoholics Anonymous by Bill Wilson - also known at the "big book," it would be difficult to describe this in
anyway a "normie" might understand. if you need it you'll get it . . . .

Holy Bible by God -  

read a whole bunch of stuff, but that's what stands out right now

Movies:

Aliens - not the lame-ass "alien" Aliens has space marines!

Fightclub

Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels

Boondock Saints

Snatch

Platoon

Apocalypse Now

Blackhawk Down

Clerks

Clerks 2

Mall Rats

Chasing Amy - there's santa clause, the easter bunny, a lipstick lesbian, and a bull dyke at four separate
positions equadistant to a hundred dollar bill, who get's to it first?

Dogma
eldude
29-Aug-06, 18:30

Isnt the Dark tower series a horor series?
zorroloco
29-Aug-06, 18:32

lock, stock
is a great movie...

have you seen 'way of the gun?" it is way violent, but an amazing movie.
proginoskes
29-Aug-06, 20:39

Dark Tower Horror? No. Pretty dark, but not horror.
proginoskes
29-Aug-06, 20:40

way of the gun? I think so, but cannot say for sure
eldude
29-Aug-06, 20:40

oh, my mom said it was horror.
proginoskes
29-Aug-06, 21:19

your mom probably didn't want you reading steven king   this one is not horror and I'm sure she was just
mistaken, but it might not be appropriate for someone your age - although I think I was your age when I
first read it . . .

opening line: "The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed"
kementari
29-Aug-06, 23:28

lol... yeah...
My mom wasn't sure I was old enough for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy when I was 12 and my Uncle gave it to me for Christmas. He was right, she was wrong.  

My favorites:

*Books*

-Fiction-

--Fantasy-- (ranked favorite to I can't possibly justify not mentioning this... some good stuff isn't going to make the cut, but that's life)

Lord of the Rings by Tolkein (my screen name is high elvish for queen of the earth)
To Reign in Hell by Steven Brust (run, don't walk, to your nearest bookstore and buy this)
Chronicles of Amber by Roger Zelazny
Jhereg (series) by Steven Brust
Tigana by Guy Gavrial Kay
The Fionavar Tapestry (series) by Guy Gavrial Kay
Artemis Fowl (series) by Eoin Colfer (written for a younger crowd, but still very fun)
A Wrinkle in Time (series) by Madeline L'Engle
The Dark is Rising (series) by Susan Cooper
Narnia and Harry Potter (well, of course...)
A Wizard of Earthsea (series) by Ursula K. Le Guinn
All the Weyrs of Pern (not the series... just that one.   Anne McCafferey
Darkover (series) Mercedes Lackey
die unendliche Geschichte by Michael Ende (the Neverending Story... it's better in German)

I think I'm missing a few, but that will do for now...

--Sci-Fi--
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams
Ringworld by Lary Niven

--Horror--
Sorry, I'm a wuss. Can't do it.

--Random fiction/classics--
Candide by Voltaire
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Pirsig
Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
Mario und der Zauberer by Thomas Mann (Mario and the Magician, short story)
Atlas Shrugged and Fountainhead (same book, different characters) by Ayn Rand
Everything I've ever read by Mark Twain
Everything I've ever read by Vonnegut
Everything I've ever read by Tom Robbins

-Non-fiction-
--Philosophy--
Thus Spake Zarathustra by Nietzsche
Gödel, Escher, and Bach by Hofstädter
Zum ewigen Frieden by Kant (short essay, "To the Eternal Peace")
Hegel... just don't even talk to me about Hegel. I read it, but I think I sprained my brain doing it. Actually, I think Hegel belongs in fiction, come to think of it...

--Political Satire/History--
A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn
On my reading list for this year-- What Would Jefferson Do by Thom Hartmann

--Science/Religion--
The Bible (extensively)
The Qur'an (less extensively)
The Kitáb-i-Aqdas (Most Holy Book)
The Kitáb-i-Íqán (Book of Certitude)
The Hidden Words
The Seven Valleys
The Secret of Divine Civilization
The Dawn-Breakers
A couple (read that as "lots") of books on the Quballah, Astrology, Tarot, general pagan themes and guidelines. I can do astrology and tarot well enough to charge for a reading and not feel the slightest bit guilty, but I'd rather sit down at a bar and have a few beers and a chat with you. Accomoplishes the same thing without all the hocus pocus.)
End of Faith by Sam Harris
Just a Theory by Moti Ben-Ari

**Movies**

Much Ado About Nothing (Kenneth Branagh)
Night on Earth
Dogma
Incredibles (for that matter, anything by Pixar)
Princess Bride
The Boiler Room
Reservoir Dogs
Real Genius
Evangelion
Totoro  


proginoskes
30-Aug-06, 05:26

dang it!
one of the reasons I hate these lists: hitchiker's guide to the galaxy and reservoir dogs! (*smacks self on
forhead*)

And you MUST read the book hitchiker's do not watch the movie, one of my favorites is God's last message
to his creation, which I wont give away, but you'll laugh
zorroloco
30-Aug-06, 05:38

yeah
i always forget stuff too...but thats why the lists are good : )

fantasy - all the michael moorcock books
sci fi - dune by frank herbert

movie - pulp fiction
leo_london
30-Aug-06, 07:38

Deleted by leo_london on 30-Aug-06, 07:39.
leo_london
30-Aug-06, 07:40

I though the tv series of Hitchiker's was far better than the film, it was more faithful to the book. The joy was in the small satirical details, but several hours of " voiceover " would never have worked in the movies.
Surprised to see " Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance " get a mention. I remember reading it about 30 years ago when it was a best-seller, I have rarely heard of it since.

kementari
30-Aug-06, 08:04

Zen
I read it shortly after I read Gödel, Escher, and Bach. I was 19 at the time, and had just dropped out of college. There were lessons in those books that were worth twice what I would have paid for tuition.

As far as HHGttG goes, I'm an old school fan. I started reading it when I was 12, found out it started out as a radio series, and went out to buy the radio series (fantastic for a road trip.)

If you haven't heard the originals, I strongly recommend finding a way to fix that problem.   The TV series was alright, but Zaphod's slightly comatose other head always pulled me out of the action. I actually liked the movie better. It was an interpretation, yes... but c'mon. The fly-swatters and Vogon evolution? How bloody cool is that!!! And Trillian's comment on the ultimate gun? "It won't work on me, I'm a woman." Brilliant.

There were just a hundred small things that made Hitchhiker's work on a film level. The proof is-- it's on my 5-yr-old's short list of movies she wants to watch over and over again. Along with Doctor Who. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
leo_london
30-Aug-06, 08:37

No, I didn't catch the radio series...perhaps it's available on tape ?
I prefered the tv series to the film, but I am ready to admit... that might have be partly nostalgia for " my " original viewing...if you see what I mean.
I will watch it again to catch up with your 5 year-old..it was the hundreds of little things that were missing that put me off the movie, but I was probably watching it in a biased frame of mind.
kementari
30-Aug-06, 10:39

Buy now... you won't be sorry
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leo_london
30-Aug-06, 11:29

Ł48 ! ...you can buy it for me for Christmas.  
jamesbeach
30-Aug-06, 14:16

A few of mine . . .
"Bend Sinister" V. Nabokov (yes, he's the guy that wrote "Lolita")
"Slaughtervouse Five" and "Hocus Pocus" Kurt Vonnegut--both masterpieces
"Joan of Arc" a little-known historical novel by Mark Twain. A lovely read
"The Centaur" John Updike, a beautiful book he wrote before he ran out of ideas.
zorroloco
30-Aug-06, 20:26

vonnegut
the best living american author! the 20th century's mark twain! his short stories, 'welcome to the monkey house' are genius. his latest work, 'man without a country' should be required reading for all americans!
zorroloco
03-Sep-06, 12:39

kurt vonnegut
just wanted to make sure everyone reads everything they can by this fantastic writer and humanist!
astinkyfart
03-Sep-06, 13:01

all
my favorite movies are porn.
zorroloco
11-Dec-06, 11:18

v for vendetta
i had low expectations...but was pleasantly surprised.
pawntificator
11-Dec-06, 15:07

Yeah
I thought V was pretty dern good. It made me want a revolution. A non-violent revolution, but a revolution all the same. I don't like violence, of course, but the movie did show how violence can be used for a purpose. Makes a person think about terrorists, too.



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