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eldude 10-Oct-06, 21:43	Anybody out there a writer that can help me? Is anybody out there a write that can help me with a book or just simple essays? I am currently writing a ,not so good book,(hey, im giving my best shot at it) and I would like some help. If you could contact me in private (the best way) or if you just want to post it here that would be fine. Thanks, Eldude
echo3 10-Oct-06, 23:56	You're young.... ... to be writing a book Eldude! yesterday in a bookshop I saw a very good new book called something like " your book in 30 days", it sets out how, within 30 days you can set up the framework for your book. I looked through it and it looked pretty useful in helping one to plan and get the proper structures in place. I'll see if I can find it again and I'll let you know the actual title.
bobbynox 11-Oct-06, 09:02	Deleted by bobbynox on 23-Jan-07, 08:47.
zorroloco 11-Oct-06, 10:56	bobby what. me knot articulate?
kementari 11-Oct-06, 12:34	Did someone request some editorial work? I'm good at that. I'd do editorials for a living, but it's too stressful. I do them here instead... no deadlines. Eldude, I'm going to echo Bobby's comment about working with your English teachers. They will love you for your interest. If you don't like your current English teacher, find a mentor among the ones you do like. And Read. Read, read, read, read, read. Repeat the above only to the point of exhaustion, and be aware that you will become addicted. You like science. Read Carl Sagan. Demon Haunted World, Dragons of Eden, Pale Blue Dot... all of the above are fantastic reads, and they will teach you everything you need to know about rhetoric and story telling. Leon Lederman's "The God Particle" is also superb.
eldude 11-Oct-06, 19:11	Well no duh my school teaches English. I come from America. What are they going to teach? French only?
bobbynox 11-Oct-06, 19:40	Deleted by bobbynox on 23-Jan-07, 08:48.
eldude 11-Oct-06, 19:46	Cool and thanks Bobby But when I learned about valley-girl style, I always thought they were from New York. Anyways, I knew what valley girl style was. Thanks thought, now I know what a satire is and I can use it in writing or explaining a character or watever I want.
eldude 11-Oct-06, 19:57	O, hey Bobby, can you give me English classes? Like the one you just did? Just send em' to me in private message if that possible.
bobbynox 11-Oct-06, 20:33	Deleted by bobbynox on 23-Jan-07, 08:48.
zorroloco 11-Oct-06, 20:35	eldude and always remember that a lot is two words : )
eldude 11-Oct-06, 20:45	Okay Effect is what happens after something does. Affect is how it changes another person or thing. I think thats it. Is it? P.S, you guys come from England?
bobbynox 12-Oct-06, 20:54	Deleted by bobbynox on 23-Jan-07, 08:48.
thumper 13-Oct-06, 00:38	If you're serious about writing I recomend the book, 'On Becoming a Novelist' by John Gardner. My copy is well dog-eared. Amazon.com Picture the poor, young, serious-fiction writer. He toils alone at a pace not so different from that of Lincoln Tunnel traffic at rush hour in New York. His spouse has a "real" job, or perhaps he has a trust fund. His college friends are cashing in on their dot-coms and wondering if he's ever going to join the real world. He is not hell-bent on publication; he is trying to write "serious, honest fiction, the kind of novel that readers will find they enjoy reading more than once, the kind of fiction likely to survive." He's likely to have no idea whether he's succeeding. Nobody understands him. Well, almost nobody. John Gardner understands him. Gardner's sympathetic On Becoming a Novelist is the novelist's ultimate comfort food--better than macaroni and cheese, better than chocolate. Gardner, a fiction writer himself (Grendel), knows in his bones the desperate questioning of a writer who's not sure he's up to the task. He recognizes the validation that comes with being published, just as he believes that "for a true novel there is generally no substitute for slow, slow baking." Gardner also has strong feelings about what kinds of workshops help (and whom they help), and what kinds hinder. But a full half of Gardner's book is devoted to an exploration of the writer's nature. The storyteller's intelligence, he says, "is composed of several qualities, most of which, in normal people, are signs of either immaturity or incivility." In addition, a writer needs "verbal sensitivity, accuracy of eye," and "an almost demonic compulsiveness." But wait--there's more. A writer needs to be driven, and to be driven, he says insightfully, "a psychological wound is helpful." --Jane Steinberg Bret Lott, author of "Jewel" There are three books I keep on my desk so that I'll have them at the ready at any given moment in my writing life: the Bible, Roget's Thesaurus, and "On Becoming a Novelist." There is no better book on what it takes to be a writer than Gardner's classic. Period
water_lilly 13-Oct-06, 04:16	Actually... I'm an editor, in my free time. I've edited articles appearing in Reason and several professional medical journals. If you ever want me to take a look at your work, let me know.

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