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 election on tuesdaydo you ever watch the the mclaughlin group on pbs? they were talking about their thoughts for tuesday...tony blankley was talking about a 'perfect storm' of rejection of bush and his policies in iraq. i won't hold my breath. i am used to being disappointed on election nights! if you do not watch the mclaughlin group, you are missing out. it is one of the best shows on tv. www.mclaughlin.com" target="_blank">-> www.mclaughlin.com |
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I've already voted... Now I have time to help other voters get to the polls on Tuesday (need to cancel out Jeffs and friends vote). |
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bobbynox 05-Nov-06, 06:04 |
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sirtgl 05-Nov-06, 09:14 |
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leo_london 05-Nov-06, 10:45 |
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qiwi 05-Nov-06, 11:16 |
Perfect Storm..... However, even allowing for the usual manipulation of the election process by the republicans, it seems reasonably clear that this time Bush is a goner.... Assuming he and his cronies get the knee-capping they deserve, I wonder if the sound of hundreds of millions of bottles of champagne being uncorked at the same time would be audible from space?? |
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bobbynox 05-Nov-06, 11:34 |
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qiwi 05-Nov-06, 12:36 |
Bobby.... I was talking about the hundreds of millions of people who live in free and democratic societies who have had a gutsfull of the neo-con war-mongers and torturers who are undermining democracy and freedom world-wide. |
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qiwi You have quite a nasty mouth for calling Americans names, especially considering you don't seem to be from here. What is your claim to fame that you have such nerve to say such nasty things about us? Are you something special that you are allowed to insult Americans? |
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bobbynox 05-Nov-06, 14:21 |
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softie |
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no insult here... |
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qiwi 05-Nov-06, 15:50 |
calling Americans names..... For example the name I have for Al Gore is : 'decent and honorable human being' I also use that name for Jimmy Carter... Ray Charles I refer to as a 'musical genius'.... Thomas Jefferson = 'revolutionary leader & framer of the Constitution' It really has nothing to do with race, it is simply using names that are appropriate.... e.g. Dick Cheney = overweight war-monger and torturer.... Rumsfeld = arrogant and incompetent war-monger..... Has that clarified things for you Softaire?? |
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Jeff The qiwi certainly has the right to think and say what he thinks. I have the right to think him completely wrong (and somewhat of an ass). I have the right to be insulted by his vile lies. And, I retain the right to kick his ass should he say those things in my backyard. Other than that, I'll just think him ignorant and rude. |
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kingofpawns 05-Nov-06, 20:58 |
What most people... morning when the Republicans still control congress. It seems like this should be impossible. After all it is the most do nothing congress in the history of the US. They work less then 100 days a year and do nothing but spend money and do what Bush tells them. Bush started a war based on lies is losing it. Surely, the American people would hold someone accountable? No, by a combination of rigging elections and goose-stepping followers, they have taken over. Exit polls won't match voting patterns, but nobody will say anything much. American democracy left with little more than a whimper in 2000. It's gone. It was good while it lasted. |
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well stiched up? |
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KOP This is the most "do nothing" Congress in history (at least in my recorded history) but if the Congress actually only did what Bush told them to do, then much more would have gotten accomplished. Also, it seems that the Congress was able to accomplish a lot of spending bills. I think what you are saying is that this partisan bickering and striving for power has kept this Congress from accomplishing anything meaningful, intelligent, or useful. I have already mentioned in another thread that if the Democrats don't "sweep to victory", we will hear "fraud" and "voter machine fraud" for the next two years. The problem is that they may possibly be right. I don't trust the machines. Nothing has been proven yet, but that doesn't mean it can't, won't, or hasn't happened. As far as the "Bush started a war based on lies...." goes, how often do we have to hear this same old mantra? It gets old. If you had any actual proof, Bush would have been impeached by now... so do everyone a favor and give up that tired old line until you have some proof and can impeach Bush. |
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KOP of their loss of public upport, then we will all know, wether anyone wats to admit it or not, that the Republic has died to be replaced with rule by Bush. Soon after watch for some sort of crisis, followed by marshall law. We can make a statement this year by voting against these criminals, even if they try to pull a fast one cry loud and long about it. They still cannot take over this country entirely without our consent. Question everying people! If you're a praying type, pray for this country - we will need it. |
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kingofpawns 05-Nov-06, 23:08 |
softaire... >for power has kept this Congress from accomplishing anything meaningful, >intelligent, or useful. I'm not saying that. There is no partisan bickering in congress because there is only one party in power. The republicans do not consult the democrats on anything that congress does. Anything democrats say means nothing more than what I say here because they have zero power. Thre is only one party rule, simple as that. No discussion, no negotiation, nothing. >I have already mentioned in another thread that if the Democrats >don't "sweep to victory", we will hear "fraud" and "voter machine >fraud" for the next two years. The problem is that they may possibly >be right. I don't trust the machines. Nothing has been proven yet, but >that doesn't mean it can't, won't, or hasn't happened. There are lots of ways to control elections and only some of them involve obvious fraud. One way is to redistrict, which republicans have sucessfully done. What they want is to have a majority in a congressional district, but not a huge majority. Spread out your voters so that the maximal number of seats can be controlled. What is overlooked is that republicans have too main strategies, get our their base voters and suppress opposition voting. They are very good at both. One tactic is to put only a few voting machines in decomcratic areas. My guess is that there is actually very little actual vote tampering because they might get caught, but there is no need to do that. >As far as the "Bush started a war based on lies...." >goes, how often do we have to hear this same old mantra? >It gets old. If you had any actual proof, Bush would have >been impeached by now... so do everyone a favor and give >up that tired old line until you have some proof and can impeach >Bush. Bush is not going to be impeached for anything he did or does by a republican congress. He could shoot Laura in the head on the White House lawn and said he did it for the best of the country and he would not be impeached by this congress. |
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kingofpawns 05-Nov-06, 23:13 |
markallen... There are all kinds of tricks they use to suppress the vote. A big one is to knock likely democratic voters off of voter registration lists. These two strategies are good for 4-6% vote swings, which in republican redistricted congressional districts is good enough to win. |
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kingofpawns 05-Nov-06, 23:18 |
jdh71... for the the supreme court to tell Florida whether or not it could conduct a recount, but it did. We know that that ruling was crucial because all the ballets were recounted afterwards and Gore would have won if there had been a recount. So, in Florida more people voted for Gore than Bush, yet Bush is president and almost no one seems to care that our democracy ended thena and there. |
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KOP You think that????? "One way is to redistrict, which republicans have sucessfully done". You aren't aware that "redistricting" has been going on, like forever, by both parties? "Bush is not going to be impeached for anything he did or does by a republican congress". Bush hasn't done anything to be impeached and you have no proof for anything that you have accused him of doing... otherwise he would have been impeached already. However, if the Democrats win, what will you say then if he is NOT impeached? If the Democrats win the House, how long do we wait for impeachment before we start hearing something like "Bush controls them all, he won't let them impeach him, the system is rigged, etc. etc"? |
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KOP However, while that was a gut shot to the Republic, I see the later legislation PA I and II, and the more recent Military Commissians Act, and the blantant voter fraud of 2004, especially in Ohio was like a stab wound to the abdomen. If we wake up on wednesday and the republicans have done clean sweep, I'll realize the nail in the coffin. |
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kingofpawns 06-Nov-06, 08:57 |
jdh71... thread with on-going analysis of how they do it. |
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qiwi 06-Nov-06, 10:49 |
Yikes.... I had to laugh yesterday when the White-house mouth-piece was feigning disgust at the suggestion that the Hussein verdict was timed to gain maximum political gain for Bush and his cohorts... 'we dont work like that' he squealed.... yeah right... Anyone capable of manipulating their own electoral system to secure power and then lying profusely to their own people to justify an illegal and bloody invasion are more than capable of manipulating the fledgling puppet government in Iraq.... |
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kingofpawns 06-Nov-06, 11:21 |
Yes... Republicans: It helps get out the base. Democrats: No effect. Independents: Confusion. They don't pay as much attention to the new in general. It could affect 1 or 2% of the vote. Net effect: positive for republican candidates. |
