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illinawek
05-May-07, 04:24

Is U-tube biased?

Apparently" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class=ext>www.abcnews.go.com
" target="_blank">-> www.abcnews.go.com U-tube is biased against republicans. At leased that is what they claim. Not being Republican, I have a hard time seeing what they are talking about.

The only example I can think of is Senator George Allen losing to Webb in Virginia because U-tube displayed he is a bigot. I thought U-tube provided a valuable service. They talked about that man becoming President some day.
illinawek
05-May-07, 04:26

Sorry.... YouTube.... I don't hang with the hip crowd.
proginoskes
05-May-07, 07:34

weird . . . youtube video are posted by users. it would be like saying this place is biased against
republicans, and it probably is, but that is merely a product the make-up of the folks here and not a
conspiracy against the republican party.
thumper
05-May-07, 07:40

Teacher baiting?
Jeff
I just saw a news article about how students are baiting/provoking teachers to anger, then surreptitiously video-taping them and downloading the tape to u-tube. They're not usually taping the provokation, just the response.
I was wondering if you had heard about this. If so, do you think the students should get a medal and be congradulated for exercising their freedom of expression and individuality?
thumper
05-May-07, 07:49

As an afterthought, maybe some of these students could be employed by the media to cover the Republication campaigns. What ya think, chip off the ol block what? 8-D
zorroloco
05-May-07, 09:26

thumper
our school prohibits the use of electronic devices except for educational purposes. anyway, if a teacher allows themselves to be baited into poor behavior, they should not be teaching. if a student acts badly in my classroom, i talk to them quietly, then if that does not work, step outside the class with them to talk, and if that does not work, i simply dial 0 and call a code blue, and an administrator comes in and escorts the student out of the class for the remainder of the period.

and no, i do not think they should be congradulated [sic] for disrupting the educational environment.
thumper
05-May-07, 10:55

Must have touched a soft spot. Spelling corrections are usually reserved for desperate responses from untenable positions.
zorroloco
05-May-07, 12:25

thumper
congratulations on not reading my response.
proginoskes
05-May-07, 12:31

cungradjulatons everyone!
thumper
05-May-07, 13:40

Jeff
I read your response. Have you heard about that trend? You haven't said.
Did you notice the students in question are using their camera/video phones 'surreptitiously', so your school's prohibition is without teeth unless all devices are confiscated at the door.
I just wanted to get the viewpoint from a self proclaimed liberal teacher. Please look into some actual footage if you will.
The irony, to me, is quite amusing.
zorroloco
05-May-07, 15:51

thumper
ok...i will spell it out:

<Have you heard about that trend? You haven't said.> no.

<Did you notice the students in question are using their camera/video phones 'surreptitiously', so your school's prohibition is without teeth unless all devices are confiscated at the door.> no. if i had, i would have confiscated them, as per school policy. any teacher worth their salt would catch a student doing this...a good teacher moves about the room quite frequently, and knows what the students are doing...frankly, i do not see how a teacher can be so oblivious as to not notice that a student is taping them.

<I just wanted to get the viewpoint from a self proclaimed liberal teacher. Please look into some actual footage if you will.> as i said, if a teacher allows themselves to be baited into poor behavior, they should not be teaching.

<do you think the students should get a medal and be congradulated for exercising their freedom of expression and individuality?> no. they should be working on learning algebra, not working to annoy the teacher.

thumper, do you think the students should get a medal and be congradulated for exercising their freedom of expression and individuality?

zorroloco
05-May-07, 15:53

thumper
by the way, i am not a liberal, and never said i was. i am a radical leftist with libertarian tendencies. some of my ideas jibe with the liberals...and many do not. i have argued before that:

conservatism is idolatry of the status quo,
liberalism is the naive belief that the system can be tweaked,
radicalism believes that the system is rotten, and needs drastic change.
thumper
06-May-07, 06:32

Jeff
Please get your story straight.
Just a couple of days ago you told pawnie:
<<no way man...as a liberal, i probably would have given him a medal for 'expressing his individuality!'>>
You can't be a teacher and be stupid, can you?
I suspect you either; change what you say you are just so you can play the victim and tell a 'conservative', 'you're wrong', or you've taken too many bong hits and your lack of memory is showing. Either way, your credibility suffers when you morph back and forth whenever you feel challenged. The dems would be proud.
Is this more of that '...show me where I said...' tactic?

To answer your question to me;
No reward for disrespectful behavior. I do think the students are being what their teachers taught them to be.
zorroloco
06-May-07, 08:17

thumper
i think the students are being what their parents taught them to be...i think you place too much power in the hands of the teacher.
zorroloco
06-May-07, 08:51

thumper
do you not recognize sarcasm? geez! <no way man...as a liberal, i probably would have given him a medal for 'expressing his individuality!> how much more obvious can it be? that comment was in reference to the student who wrote the violent essay...i also stated that it was a stupid thing to do and in poor taste, but he should not have been arrested. s-a-r-c-a-s-m.

why are you so dedicated to pointing out cases where i might have contradicted myself. do you have nothing salient to discuss? are you trolling?

as i have stated many, many times, i do not consider myself to be a liberal. that is my prerogative.
anomalocaris
06-May-07, 09:19

jeff
not trying to put you on the spot here but.. do you believe in abortion? gay rights? arent you atheist? im not attacking you jeff honest..i dont know if your liberal or not. on here you present yourself from the liberal point of view very often.
anomalocaris
06-May-07, 09:20

oh and
also to answer the original post..i do not believe somethign like u tube could be biased..its a user site..thats like saying gk is biased.
zorroloco
06-May-07, 10:01

stinky
many of my views jibe with the liberal pov...but, i diverge on gun control and death penalty. also, atheism is not a 'liberal' pov...many, perhaps most, liberals are not atheists. and finally, i am not sure what you mean when you ask if i 'believe in abortion.' i believe it exists. i believe it is a not nice thing. i believe women should have the right to decide. i believe illegalizing abortion will cause many more deaths among women seeking back alley abortions.

in short, i do not abide by cookie cutter belief systems. i think for myself.
anomalocaris
06-May-07, 10:59

jeff
of course you do...when i say do you believe in abortion...i think you know what i mean.. the right to decide is a liberal stance...i asked if you were atheist no because liberals are atheist but most liberals do not align themselves with the church , where more conservatives do. you may not mean to follow cookie cutter ideas but alas for you and me all our original thinking has been thought of before. your way of thinking , although for yourself is considered liberal, mine is considered conservative. we all like to feel we are so unique and different but really we are just blips on the radar. jeff this isnt a knock on you just a point. i dont care what you are, you may feel your different but your not. you fall into the same rut of thinking as most of us.. there arent that many choices really. the abortion issue...i do believe its not black and white...many circumstances involved with that one.
zorroloco
06-May-07, 11:11

stinky
so what you are saying is that you want to pigeon hole me into a group that i myself do not feel i belong to. you certainly can do so...only it is not correct. you can place anyone you want into any category you want...but that does not make it so...part of the problem with the world is people's insistence on placing people into groups when in reality, people are individuals.

of course it is easier to call me a liberal, because then one can easily assume one knows what i think, and can generalize about my belief system. it is much more difficult to accept an individual for themselves without lumping them into a group because then one's generalizations and preconceptions become useless and one must actually listen to the person and evaluate each argument separately. that is generally too much work for a conservative : )
anomalocaris
06-May-07, 11:18

ok
fine...your not a liberal... if that makes you feel better...but..your responses and views are just as easily predictable as a liberal..why..theres really no difference in your "original" views or that of a liberal..but if you insist your not liberal fine by me. jeff this really wasnt meant as any kind of attack on you really.



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