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thumper 30-Jun-09, 11:07	healthy rating FOX NEWS RECORDS UNPRECEDENTED TOP 10 OUT OF 10 PROGRAMS IN CABLE NEWS FOR 2ND QUARTER... ON PACE TO BE NETWORK'S BEST YEAR EVER... THE O'REILLY FACTOR 3,191,000 HANNITY 2,345,000 GLENN BECK 2,053,000 ON THE RECORD W/GRETA 1,950,000 SPECIAL REPORT W/BRET BAIER 1,889,000 FOX REPORT/SHEP SMITH 1,783,000 THE O'REILLY FACTOR (RPT) 1,579,000 AMERICA'S NEWSROOM BILL HEMMER & MEGYN KELLY 1,399,000 YOUR WORLD W/NEIL CAVUTO 1,389,000 STUDIO B W/SHEP SMITH 1,169,000
anomalocaris 30-Jun-09, 11:11	I read somewhere that the Fox news channel has more viewers than all the other networks combined. Seems this club is the only place fox isn't liked. I knew we were battling some nut jobs in here  . If it's not kissing Obama's butt its not news I guess??
chessnovice 30-Jun-09, 11:26	... FOX News sucks, there's no doubt for me. There's too much focus on entertaining, not enough on information. But they do have the advantage over other news networks, which generally have the same problem. Most of the other rival networks do lean left, even if not as overtly as FOX News tends to lean right. That's 50% of viewers that gets annoyed with one form of biased news, and it's only natural for some people to find comfort in news channels that they agree with. FOX News has no competition as a Republican-favoring network. The competition splits the Democrat-leaning population.
softaire 30-Jun-09, 12:21	The statistics pretty much say it all... more people trust Fox because they feel "comfortable" that the news there IS fair and balanced. It's not always and sometimes is slanted, especially on some of the commentator shows, but the news is usually unbiased. The other networks are "sloppy" in their favoritism of persons and agendas but generally their newscasts are (or seem to me to be) pretty unbiased and fair.
qiwi 30-Jun-09, 15:00	Fox and friends..... Bill O'Reilly has been bragging about the Fox News ratings for sometime..... Of course he knows, as all the abusive e-mails he receives would tell him, is that a great number of people that tune in occasionally, like myself, actually think the channel is absolute crap....... I seriously doubt that any so-called "liberal" is fixated on any one channel in the way that "conservatives" are locked into Fox News. ..... The fact is, however, that most sane people don't even bother watching television news which relies primarily on sound-bites and so called "BREAKING NEWS" items which are mostly nothing but spin...... I worked for a television station here in NZ for over 20 years and I can tell you that the ratings game is just that, a game, aimed primarily at gullible people like Thumper and friends.....
qiwi 30-Jun-09, 15:22	p.s. I am actually quite surprised that anyone believes that ratings somehow reflect quality..... I dont know what is currently topping the ratings in the U.S. but generally the top spots are filled with innocuous drivel like American Idol and Dancing with the Stars while any genuinely educational program tends to rate poorly.... that is the nature of television. It is a medium basically aimed at the semi-literate.....
anomalocaris 30-Jun-09, 15:32	Qiwi It's plain as the nose on your face how close minded you are. If what you say is true you would be glued to your T.V. watching fox. So the other news networks have a lower rating because they are genuinely educational. Uh huh.
qiwi 30-Jun-09, 18:15	Only in Fox New's parallel universe are they the top rating channel..... most people know that cable channels dont have anywhere near the level of viewership of the free to air channels..... So getting back to the real world here are the ratings for last week in the U.S. NBC's "Nightly News" topped the evening newscasts with an average of 8.4 million viewers (5.6 rating, 12 share). ABC's "World News" was second with 7 million (4.7, 10) and the "CBS Evening News" had 5.6 million viewers (3.7, 8). For the week of June 22-28, the top 10 shows, their networks and viewerships: "America's Got Talent" (Tuesday), NBC, 11.46 million; "NCIS," CBS, 11.09 million; "America's Got Talent" (Wednesday), NBC, 10.4 million; "The Mentalist," CBS, 9.1 million; "60 Minutes," CBS, 8.79 million; "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," CBS, 8.74 million; "Two and a Half Men," CBS, 8.69 million; "20/20 Special Edition" (Thursday), ABC, 8.17 million; "CSI: Miami," CBS, 8.01 million; "Wipeout," ABC, 7.8 million. ___
qiwi 30-Jun-09, 18:26	p.s. Based on the above more people watch NBC's 'Nightly News' than watch 'The O'Reilly Factor', 'Hannity', and 'Glenn Beck' combined....
musket33r 01-Jul-09, 03:11	If America's got talent is even in the top 20 it goes to show how much society has failed around the world.
qiwi 01-Jul-09, 04:17	Musket... Exactly..... but more importantly, what does that tell us about the Fox News Channel.... It appears more people watched 'America's Got Talent' last week than watched 'O'Reilly', 'Hannity', Glenn Beck', 'On the Record', and 'Special Report' combined......
chaz- 01-Jul-09, 06:33	... ... competition for the attention of the American mind is indeed a sad story. Still ... television is nothing more than entertainment ... even the news is entertainment, it is no longer news, real commentary, debate, or analysis. The sad part is that the public either doesn't care, or it is not noticing this point. I'm unsure which is worse.
chessnovice 01-Jul-09, 09:29	qiwi I looked up where you were getting your numbers. You're confusing the FOX channel with the FOX News channel. FOX, ABC, NBC, and CBS are all basic TV. FOX News is cable TV. They compete with CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, because those are cable news stations too. As far as America's Got Talent goes, I don't see anything wrong with using the television for entertainment. There aren't any variety shows left anymore, and America's Got Talent is the closest thing to one. Even though I don't use the TV for anything much more than the occasional baseball game, I would definitely not use it for the news.
thumper 01-Jul-09, 10:12	LOL I don't even watch an hour's worth of tv per week.
qiwi 01-Jul-09, 14:08	Chessnovice.... I am well aware that Fox News is cable. I was simply pointing out that the great majority of viewers get their news from the free to air channels..... But more importantly Fox News doesn't even come into consideration when we start looking at things on a global scale. CNN International is available in most of the world, distributed via satellite, cable, IPTV and DTT. Its international reach is more than 200 million households and hotel rooms in over 200 countries. For most viewers it is free-to-air, however some pay TV companies include it in their pay TV bouquets, or issue a virtual channel to the FTA version on the same satellite. In addition, it is free to watch online, when available, via CNN's webpage. BBC World would probably have an even wider coverage....

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