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ribbleton
27-May-07, 06:15
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Death
Death is part of Life; however we don't often speak about it. In the past societies, civilzations like Egypt, dealt with it as a ritual for the next journey for the Pharon.
Religion was part of death and viceversa.
In our modern society, specially western culture is a negative part of our lives; while the eastern world has learned from their ancestors that is a natural process of our lives and beings.
So a good and bad death is all a perspective point of view. The process of dying of a long term illness, is what perhaps has been terrifying thing for mankind.
However nobody is an expert on this subject, becuase we have not yet experienced death.
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ribbleton
28-May-07, 08:35
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What is death?
If I render a person unconscious for his entire life while his bodily functions normally. have I murdered him?
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ribbleton
01-Jun-07, 13:12
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Personal Identity
Are persons to be identified by their physical characteristics or are they purely mental beings.
If a man had a stroke and lost most of his mental essences such as memory of his wife and their life together would she have any obligation to live with him when he came out of the hospital?
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Interesting subject : )
I feel if someone dies for what they believe in it is a good death. And a good death would be different for everyone. It may even differ through point of veiw. Say for instance a scientist wanted to give his life to prove a theory. To him this may be a good death and he may feel it will benefit mankind enough to be a worthwhile cause. Other people may see it as a total waste and deem it suicide. Who is right in that situation? Would it be based on whether or not his sacrifice really does benefit mankind? And furthermore how would we remember him? As a hero or as a nutcase? The main thing is what it mattered to him I think. He did it willingly and happily, pursuing what he believed in. Not to sound morbid myself, but I would rather die for something I believed in or fought for than to waste away in a hospital. Even if the only person who understood was me
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I think.......
I think if you destroy someones mind or put them into a coma it should be considered murder no matter what condition the body is in. Though technically you have not killed them, you have taken their life away and taken them from their family and friends. It would probably be a greater mercy on the family to have them dead at that point, because then it's done and the healing process can begin. If they are just unconscious, there is always the hope they will wake up so the pain lingers, festers, and eventually consumes those living.
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Socrates and the hemlock
With all know that Socrates, the great Greek philosopher defied death, by drinking the hemlock, with such a stoic behaviour.
In a way he welcome death to his body, and ready to leave Life.
In the Crito, his disciples come to rescue him from his jail, and to help him to escape and leave Athens. He refused to do such thing.
Socrates had firm beliefs on his philosophy; his principles are very high standard. He was not afraid of Death.
PS>> Read the apolgy (the Trial of Socrates), and seee how The Athenians senators fear Socrates.
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death & Dying
A novelist by the name of James Lee Burke wrote "Psychiatrists say the most terrifying moments in our lives occurs when we are delivered out of the birth canal from the safety of the womb – unable to breathe, shuddering against the light, knowing we will die unless we receive the slap of life."
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I think if you can avoid dying horribly and in pain then you've probably done alright.
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ribbleton
16-Oct-07, 06:28
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Robert Southey
My name is death; the last best friend I am.
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codyj
21-Oct-07, 11:40
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Death, the Great Mystery
Tell me not, in mournful numbers,
Life is but an empty dream!
For the soul is dead that slumbers,
and things are not what they seem.
Life is real! Life is earnest!
And the grave is not its goal;
Dust thou art; to dust returnest,
Was not spoken of the soul.
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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codyj
21-Oct-07, 12:01
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I believe that imagination is stronger than knowledge -- myth is more potent than history -- dreams are more powerful than facts -- hope always triumphs over experience -- laughter is the cure for grief -- love is stronger than death.
Robert Fulghum
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codyj
21-Oct-07, 12:02
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I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter.
Winston Churchill
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Emily Dickinson
Death stop kindly for me.
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Death
The debt that all men pay is death.
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John Donne
No man is an island, entire of itself;
every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were,
as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were.
Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind;
and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
it tolls for thee.
-- John Donne 1624
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