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undoubtedly0 28-Mar-08, 05:31	The Trompowsky (1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5) Also known as the "Martian Tromp" for its unusual positions. Black's best response is 2...Ne4, but 2...d5 and 2...e6 are also playable.
mybookrunsdeep 28-Mar-08, 08:05	hm... I play 2...c5 here.
kingdawar 28-Mar-08, 08:30	mbrd Isn't that the move you play on move three, after 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 Ne4 3. Bh4/Bf4 and then 3. ... c5. But hey, of course you can get your Trompowsky opponent out of his 'comfort zone' immediately this way. GK's database doesn't seem to refute your move!
undoubtedly0 29-Mar-08, 06:30	1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 Ne4 3. Bf4 c5 4. dxc5?! 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 Ne4 3. Bf4 c5 4. dxc5?! I recently reached this position in a Gameknot game. 4. dxc5?! surprised me (especially coming from an 1871!). I played 4...Qa5+?! resulting in 5. Nd2 e6?? (much better was 5...e5!) 6. c3! with the following position: Now, black can't regain his pawn because 6...Nxc5?? fails to 7. b4 and 6...Nxd2 (which I played) failed to 7. b4!! So what is the best answer to 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 Ne4 3. Bf4 c5 4. dxc5?! Is it 4...Nc6? Also worth considering is 4...Na6!?!? This to me looks like the best reply. White should continue 5. Nd2 Naxc5 and then 6. Ngf3 or 6. Nxe4. Also, 5. c6? is answered with 6...Qb6. Unfortunately, GameKnot's DB has next to nothing on the position, but what does the club think?
mybookrunsdeep 29-Mar-08, 07:11	... 4...Qa5+ is fine. Then after 5. Nd2, your suggestion of 5...e5 is good! Want to check out a crazy game, check out Tolush-Boleslavsky, Moscow 1945!
undoubtedly0 29-Mar-08, 07:36	1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 Ne4 3. Bf4 c5 4. dxc5?! Qa5+ 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 Ne4 3. Bf4 c5 4. dxc5?! Qa5+ then 5. Nd2 is best: Now after 5...e5 what is best for white? Here is my recommendation (from best to worst) 6. Bxe5!? Nxf2! 7. Kxf2 Qxc5+ 8. e3 Qxe5 ----------Nc6 7. Bf4 Bxc5 ----------Bxc5 7. e3 Bxe3! 8. fxe3 Qxe5 6. Be3 Nxc5 7. Ngf3 Qc7?! 6. Bg3?! Nxg3 7. hxg3 Nc6
undoubtedly0 29-Mar-08, 07:42	Alexander Kazimirovich Tolush vs Isaac Boleslavsky Thanks for the reference mybookrunsdeep. The game can be found at www.chessgames.com.
rookie879 16-Nov-09, 18:37	New Mini-Tournament I started a thematic tournament with the Trompowsky for anyone who is interested in learning more about the opening. Here is the link:gameknot.com

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