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jkarp
11-Jul-11, 11:58

Queens Gambit
Although we have discussed opening moves in the When and Where it is safe to castle forum, my favorite opening is the Queen's Gambit. I had a lot of discussions about this before any chess clubs. It happened while I was a senior in High School. However, everyone thought that it was predeveloping the queen on the second or third move. That was a misinterpretation wich once got me the, "Scholars Mate", as mentioned earlier. I now know that it starts with the queens pawn opening on D4 followed be C4. This is a common opening, but notice that it is helping to do better in chess games as I make the one point that I am behind by, and it could lead to a direct check against my opponent.
shamash
11-Jul-11, 13:25

a grounding in the Queen's Gambit
STRATEGIC CHESS by Grandmaster Edmar Mednis provides a wonderful grounding for the early moves and various lines of the Queen's Gambit System.

You should know, Joe, that the Queen's Gambit does Not always begin with 1 d4.
jkarp
11-Jul-11, 14:33

If it does not begin with d4, what other move or moves does it begin?
shamash
11-Jul-11, 14:50

transposition
Your new word to learn, Joe, is "transposition". The notion of transposition extends the flexibility of your opening play. Transposing an opening lets you better adapt your first moves to the likely responses of your particular opponent.

Although classified as a "1 d4 Opening,"
the Queen's Gambit is Not fixed as always starting 1 d4.

The Queen's Gambit system can evolve, morph, develop, or "transpose" from other openings.

It can transpose from 1 c4.

It can transpose from 1 Nf3.

It can transpose from I e3.

It can transpose from 1 g3.

The Queen's Gambit is a formation, including a central pawn structure, not a fixed order of moves 1- 2- 3-.

The Queen's Gambit System embraces the Queen's Gambit Declined, the Queen's Gambit Accepted, the Slav, and the Semi-Slav.

Queen's Gambit variations include the Meran, the Cambridge Springs, the Vienna, the Manhattan, the Ragozin, the Exchange variation, the Peruvian variation, the 4 Bf4 system, Botvinnik's Variation, the Chigorin -- and others.

You may play the opening moves of a Queen's Gambit and find it morph into a Dutch or a
Queen's Indian, or Catalan, even a Gruenfeld -- among others.

If you are playing the Queen's Gambit, why would you open with anything other than 1 d4?

Opening with an alternate first move may allow you to steer the game away from certain defenses you may wish to avoid.
And it may allow you to better control the pace of the game, the deployment of pieces, the building of tension, and the break-out of open warfare.

l-d-j
13-Jul-11, 02:25

Examples for what shamash says
Shamash is right. For example after 1.c4 e6 2.d4 d5 we have a queen's gambit declined, or after 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.d4 d5 3.c4 we also have a queen's gambit position.
About avoiding some lines: if you would like to avoid, say, the Budapest gambit (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5) you could play 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 and only then 3.c4, so your opponent can't play 2...e5.
mchess8484
13-Jul-11, 09:25

Queen's Gambit
The Queen's gambit (and transpositions) is definitely rich in options no matter what style of play you enjoy. But you really have to narrow it down since there are just so many variations to look over. Is there a favorite line/variation you wish to discuss Jkarp? That way we can narrow our focus/advice/study.
hityerclock
13-Jul-11, 09:30

Beginner openings
I usually recommend that beginners play 1.e4, and concentrate on quickly developing thier pieces in the center of the board. At the beginner level, opening theory is worthless as the players will typically be out of book by move 5 or so, and even if they're not, they won't undestand why they're playing the moves that they're playing, especially if they open 1.d4 which requires quite a bit of chess knowledge to evaluate the resulting positions.

What's really important for beginners is to get a good grounding in the fundamentals - challenging for & occupying the central squares, quick piece development to good squares, and king safety, which for beginners is best done by castling early and often. It's possible to play 1.e4/2.Nf3/3.Bc4/4.O-O against almost anything, and most beginners will end up with a better middle-game situation than if they try to follow some opening book that recommends moves they don't understand.

So I would recommend playing 1.e4, get the N's and B's out to where they have good scope of movement (typically towards the center of the board), castle, connect the rooks, and look to control the central squares. Don't worry about what the opening is called or what BCO 14 lists as the main line. Develop the pieces, get your king safe, challenge for the center, and don't waste time. Tactical opportunities will follow from that.
brigadecommander
13-Jul-11, 10:57

good,pragmatic.and logical advice!!
hityerclock gives great advice. Take it!!!!
king-nothing
13-Jul-11, 12:15

I'm hovering around 1400 and I still follow Hityerclock's advice for white   Occasionally I'll play the Reti and transpose it into the English, but I only do that when I feel it is possible an opponent has been scouting.

I have learned that it is best to master one opening before venturing into another. A year of playing the same opening over and over again will give you an idea what every possible outcome up to move 6 or 7 might be... sometimes as far out as move 10.
charleshiggie
13-Jul-11, 21:40

I'm not convinced that he should open e4!
I've had d4 as my main opening move since I was about 11. I wasn't a great player then. I do agree that it is best, especially for a beginner, to stick with the same opening moves. As jkarp has a fear of being mated in f2 or f7 early on, 1. d4 is a way of avoiding quick defeats.

d4 is slightly more drawish that e4.

Incidentally, if I am allowed to slightly contradict myself, nowadays if I am playing a weak opponent , I will open e4, and hope for an early knock-out!

The other thing I would say, is that if you are playing chess on Gameknot, for goodness sake make full use of the opening databases!
jkarp
14-Jul-11, 11:59

mchess8484-I like the queens gambit because it is not a true gambit. In other words, one gives away a free pawn but could get that pawn back about two or three moves later. Then, one might be able to directly check his or her opponent. After that, one might also have an opportunity to capture a more powerful piece such as a knight, bishop, or even a rook.
jkarp
14-Jul-11, 12:09

hithyerclock-I agree because Jack Stockel, the person in charge of the chess club at the Senior Citizens Center, taught me that it is important to become used to one opening before worrying about another opening. However, he also taught me that one must get used to all openings to become a good chess player.
brigadecommander
16-Jul-11, 00:13

Rebirth of the Queens Gambit 1927
here the Queens gambit was tested by two very very strong players. In this world championship
match the queens gambit declined was played in 32 of 34 games.


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jkarp
20-Oct-11, 17:56

I have a question about transposition. Do transpositions only occur with the Queens Gambit, or do they occur with other openings?
l-d-j
20-Oct-11, 23:48

Also with other openings
There are also other openings that can occur via transposition. E.G. 1.Nf3 c5 2.e4 is the Sicilian via transposition, 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 g6 3.e4 Bg7 4.Nf3 d6 5.d4 O-O is the King's Indian via transpoisition.
jkarp
12-Apr-12, 08:44

Where the Queen's Gambit Fails
I used to open with 1.d4 to play the Queen's Gambit. In fact, the Queen's Gambit used to be my favorite opening, but I no longer like it. That is because I had bad luck in a different game, and I showed the game in a different post. The post is shown in the link below. gameknot.com Instead, I open with 1.e4, in my attempt to play the Ruy Lopez Opening.
jkarp
12-Apr-12, 08:45

BTW, 1.e4 is the opening that I am most accustomed to.



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