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Club PoliciesBut please, be courteous, we do not walk in the other shoes. I have talked to the moderators, and from now on all thread deletions will only occur when two moderators have conferred and agree that it needs to be deleted. Please keep an eye on this thread if more policies become necessary. |
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bjorn-viking 23-Dec-10, 10:44 |
Deleted by bjorn-viking on 11-Jan-11, 07:50.
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klingle 11-Jan-11, 04:56 |
tardy resignationsAll of us have experienced players who timeout, or vacation, instead of resigning in a timely fashion. Block or Bleed has a policy that we will not tolerate our players doing that. We request all Captains to contact us if our team is guilty. I wonder if you have a similar policy? |
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grege79 11-Jan-11, 04:58 |
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Question for klingle: |
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klingle 31-Jan-11, 07:13 |
Tardy resignationsusing all 3 days to move. He is now 1 move from mate, and still letting the clock run. In this case I have no one to complain to since he is the team captain. |
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I saw the gameWhat you can do about it.... in this game: nothing, but if I were you, I would remember his name in case of challenges in the future.... Anyway, I am sure you will dance around the table when you checkmate him!! |
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In a hopeless position...Chris |
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Different folks,different strokes... |
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When I get into a losing position I take longer to think. I spend more time analyzing the next move. I am looking for an answer. I am not as anxious to play the position. The game is not as fun anymore. I procrastinate. I am drawn to the winning games. Whatever the reason, it takes me longer. I had a captain opponent accuse me of taking too long on a losing position. Yes I was losing but did not believe it was lost. But I resigned. It really did not make that much of a difference, I moved on to other games and now avoid this player, and he avoids me. But should you let it bother you? This is correspondence chess. You have time to make your moves. Your opponent has the same time to make moves. It is the rules we are controlled by. Your opponent is not governed by different rules. If it is a won game you will win it. Why focus on the person that will not move, focus on the games where it is your move. If you want to play fast then only play those matches are fast. The only time it should make any difference at all are for those that are free GK members. And I always make those moves the fastest. |
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hear hear !!!! |
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is chess a sport or art?art reflects on the time you spend wasting time is a persons right as an artist time controls are set in stone for the sport each one is being shorted by not getting what they want so what is chess then? a game? if it is a game: then the people who will not resign, are sore losers and are bad for the gamesmanship that they display for the game as for the gamesmanship of the player who feels " you are down, just resign" chess can change because it is a game if you, just make moves with no meaning to them that is wasting time just because you are up, dose not mean you win! the rule states checkmate your opponent not take all his/her pieces so your one or the other in this game. a sore loser or you don't know how to be a winner one way or another we all play this game and think we are an artist or treat it as a sport the only thing a player wants is some respect for the game why on Gods green Earth is this so hard to ask for? this is my view on the subject. |
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sad_but_true 19-Apr-12, 06:17 |
Deleted by sad_but_true on 19-Apr-12, 06:20.
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edwinredoim one or the other in this game. a sore loser or i don't know how to be a winner. what happens when ur opponant stuffs up which im sure u have b4 & lets me back in the game? what are we called then? |
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Winners never quit. I have been in many a games where i ripped victory out of the jaws of defeat. I do not consider players that fight to the end bad sportsmen. I admire and respect them. Jas, Keep up the good fight. Will |
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learn and possibly reverse things in their favor. Currently I am playing a game against a 1650 player (inflated rating "earned" by playing only lower rated players) who pounced on me at the beginning of the game. He moved every 5 minutes until I turned the tables on him and got the advantage... Now he moves at the very last minute each time his clock dwindles down. No problem, as soon as the game ends he will be blocked and he will not get a rematch as it seems I will have already proven myself superior. Although, should we not start a new thread about this subject? |
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my comment to "sad but true" + "vsopwill"I just want players to respect the game and stop being a dreamer. let's be real! and yes, vsopwill if my opponent is +400 points lower rated and I dropped a rook. I would fight to the end; a draw is better then a loss. but there is a point where the game is hopeless and if you have no counter play and your position is crushed....what are you truly playing for and if you are taking your time to the max your clock out before making your more.....that is just insanity! to both players, to make a player wait just because you can. and the loser to drag the game around and remind him/her-self how much of a loser they really are as a chess player + to my point: when this is being played out, the time waster: is a poor representative to this game. showing no respect to them-self and your opponent. if you are that ignorant about chess and don't know when to resign that is one thing and is understandable to new players to the game. but come on. must players understand that if you are playing someone +400 to 800 points higher then you. you are either trying to learn something and that is why you are still playing on. but you are just getting that player upset, because you are wasting the players time. must high rated players, will go over the game with you, that you have just played, if you just respected the game and resign. you see, you will learn more, from the advice, then just keep on playing a hopeless game out. why, because you did not waste the higher rated players time. and that would make him glad to go over it, if not, he is the one who is being dis-respectful to the game. + to all you time wasters: if, you do win the game, that you are losing big time. just because he got bored of the game and let his time run out. who is the true winner of that game? is it the rating points decide the winner... it is the team that wins, it needs the point, way to go team, that's the way to win one for the team....what pride you must have, being the greatest team with the greatest chess player on Earth on it! how hard is it to respect everyone you play and not waste time, when it is not needed. also not to think of your-self as the greatest chess player on Earth, even thou must chess players will waste time, hoping their opponent will blunder. this is a game, treat it as one and you might learn something! play as if your opponent, will make the best move and your game will get better. and maybe. just maybe....someday, we can be less sore losers and and be a little bit better, at being a winner. edwinredo |
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mrmarmalade 20-Apr-12, 07:20 |
Deleted by mrmarmalade on 01-Jul-12, 15:29.
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this means... "I'm no GM and none of as our" I figured the rest was as intelligent and i decided to pass. Now, for you Jack. We are still looking for our women after the last match. However the one you stole away with...Brandy...is really...Bobby Still we grew fond of him as you probably have and we would still like him back. Thank you. Will |
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same herethis comment shiits me to tears thou .. "let's be honest to our-self. we are all "sore losers" and "don't know how to be a winner". what does that mean? i can tell u right now i aint a sore loser .. I dont really like losing, but i can accept it, hopefully learn from it. i always give a positive comment to my opponent when i resign. is ur last comment directed @ the general public or r u on the war path with a seleted few? |
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Should have i resigned this game? |
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help me link a gameplayed over a year ago. i was well down in material (-17) and it was a hopeless case...or was it? if i can get the link you can judge for yourselves.... |
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sydneyapplebaum 21-Apr-12, 08:55 |
@help me link a gameThe following special codes are supported: user-name — link to a player's profile page; for example: doggy3 gm=board-number — link to a game; for example: game (the board number is shown in the title bar of the game's page) fen="FEN-notation" — display chess diagram (quotation marks are required); for example: pz=puzzle-number — link to a puzzle; for example: puzzle #2090 tc=tactics-number — link to a tactical exercise; for example: tactics #17364
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heres my game i was talking about game all i do to post the link is, get the game board up i want to show, then copy and paste the address from above |
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able to get how to do it. If you can not let me know and i will show you or post it for you. |
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klingle 22-Apr-12, 05:06 |
sad_but_true game.The game I cited that originally started this conversation was Q+p's vs p's and mate in 1. However, it seems my peers do not generally agree that a team policy regarding these situations would be appropriate, and I accept that. Block or Bleed will rescind our policy as relates to this matter, but I will still encourage my mates to avoid "beating dead horses", and move on to the next game. At least this issue inspired a lively debate. Thanks for everyone's input. |
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This is the game. game Did i show bad sportsmanship by not resigning in a losing battle? (half a loaf is better than no bread.) mistakes can happen and i have made my own share. |
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sydneyapplebaum 23-Apr-12, 18:45 |
Imo, I don't think it shows bad sportsmanship to play until you get checkmated if you think there is a 'reasonable' chance of winning or drawing (I'm not talking about timeout wins). In Jas's game, it made sense for him to continue. If I were in Jas's position against an opponent who was rated 1800, however, I would have resigned after black's 9th move. Someone who was 2200 may have felt there was still a reasonable chance of winning or drawing and it would make sense for him to play on. |
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