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 1st Inter-team ChampionshipThe 1st Inter-Championship is under construction. I will post here to update group and result. To all team captain. Don't get offended if I did not invite you and your team to participate. This is a try out tournament and if this one work you will all get invited to the next one Format. 11 category of 9 persons each. Each team will designate a champion in each category.. The category. Below 1100 1100 to 1200 1200 to 1300 1300 to 1400 1400 to 1500 1500 to 1600 1600 to 1700 1700 to 1800 1800 to 1900 1900 to 2000 and finally above 2000. Each category will play a mini-tournament. They will be ratted and mini points will be awarded. Each player will try to win out their category. When all categories will be play out. we will count all the mini-points that have been awarded. The team with the most points will be declare the grand winner. Special: An extra 5 points will be awarded for the team who make a sweep in any category. And 5 points will be deducted to the team who was swept in any category. By popular demand the time control will be 5 days per moves. Those rules are subject to change until the start of the tournament. And suggestion will be appreciated. Team involved: The Brave Black Bishop gameknot.com ~✠~ KNIGHTS TEMPLAR ~✠~ gameknot.com The Straw Hat Pirates gameknot.com Swiss Quality Chess gameknot.com * The Fighting \/\/ARRIORS * gameknot.com Wasskaly Wabbits & Morose Mooses gameknot.com Dangerous Toys gameknot.com Bulgaria gameknot.com Guardians of the Fortress gameknot.com |
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Time control Is it possible to get one more team for the test? A 9-player mini-tournament takes approx 8 months to complete with 3d + 2d < 5d control (I can't imagine it would be much more (but not less) with 5d + 2d < 7d) May I suggest 2 groups of 5 in each category at 3d + 1d < 5d control, with the winners of each playing in a head-to-head final within each category? This would also give a better idea of how a larger tournament would run... Each group is then likely to take only 4 months to complete... Will update you with TF\/\/ players shortly. Oisin |
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But I have 12 players who requested at least 5 days per moves. Because It is difficult to gather 1 person per category, i feel i didn't have a choice and go with 5 days. But your 2 groups per category is a great idea. I will wait until I have more player sign up. (like your team) and probably will change to 2 group. What do you suggest for point reward for the team in the head to head match? |
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... The head-to-head idea was to determine a champion in each category. Now I'm not sure... I think it might be an idea to steer clear of using mini-tournaments to run this... What I would suggest is setting up a draw into groups based on the teams involved, and using an established tournament format to run the tournament. Following this, the fixtures (team vs team) are announced, and team captains have the responsibility of playing these fixtures and publishing the score. Each fixture would then depend on the discussion between the captains arranging the fixture - obviously the more players involved the better chance of achieving a higher "goal difference". The fixtures would then count as team matches, but also have a bearing on the tournament. It could easily be set up with 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 or even 256 teams. The problem is maintaining track of all the fixtures, which is easily accomplished with communication. It sounds overly complicated, but it's not - it just means that it needs to be done manually, and since there is a lot of manual work involved anyway, it might as well work this way until GK can come up with a solution to run something similar automatically. What I'm trying to say is, that if I were Gameknot and I were setting up a tournament for teams, this is how I would set up the coding. If you wished, you could even have each team nominate a maximum 15-player squad for the tournament, so then there would be enough for any match (max 10 players in a match) plus subs... That's just my tuppence'orth, but whichever way you decide is fine. Oisin |
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I'm confused... what are you guys deciding to do? |
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... As I pointed out, I think there's difficulties with his proposal, but I believe it's worth testing it all the same. If it doesn't work, then we at least have a backup! |
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... The problem is filling all the categories from a limited pool. Each team needs to enter 11 players. That is fine for larger teams, provided there is interest. However there's other restrictions also, including premium membership level of the players involved and the mini-tournaments they can play in. Even in my team of 80+ players, i've only got 5 available from those who expressed interest. I wouldn't be so quick to say that running 11 concurrent mini-tournaments with restrictive criteria - in practice - is easy! First thing you need to do is find 11 "hosts" to set up the various different mini-tournaments. Then give them the guidelines and lists of players. Instruct them not to proceed until their category is full however, as it's best not to start a mini-tournament you can't finish! |
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But You can invite people without membership. Now you have put a lot of restriction on who can play and that's why it seems difficult. Instead of sending message to all the team. Try to send personal invitation. Your team member will feel proud that he's been chosen to represent the team as a champion. In any case The teams with more representative will have more chance to win than a team with only few members. In any case the 1500 group is complete and ready to go |
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... Players who don't have premium membership can only play in one mimi-tournament: gameknot.com As my players need have at least one mini-tournament slot available at the beginning of January for TF\/\/MT 2009, I have no choice but to restrict who can join the inter-team tournament. I'm sorry, but I owe this to my team. Oisin |
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Can you post the groups here? |
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groups Not all the Teams have player in all the category so the groups will vary in size. Group 1000 to 1100 josh_h619 (host) catmando computergirl jer1 lewiscade pambro zorrina Group 1100 to 1200 bloomu (host) pattik lotusmotorsport absentmind14 podskichris fisherboy2 fairlawn Group 1200 to 1300 bakanec25 (host) morphyslaw freiburg frauendasein amtroyer makj bigcountry58 budinst searcoid Group 1300 to 1400 alex_wallentine (host) smcgre04 skvan eloplaw klabak andyf howler68 rolfi1 jeffzegas group 1400 to 1500 seenalight (host) nellie span kingpawncurry rtaylor7796 ataka roland303 carlbaron themazz Group 1500 to 1600 group1 housecat (host) checmatero cynical00 aannett kansaspatzer group2 guyehomen sonofander_pict ritchmex garonna flyfisher group 1600 to 1700 pineman (host) nimzo53 aitrie mury53 lawarner egoist miniharry chriskapsio lsalazar group 1700 to 1800 knazmi (host) madmsurf tamulder beatscheiwiller alex_84 e4addict dwardman el-rancho grandad22000 group 1800 to 1900 iceberge (host) symf ico74 frebec tyrin eqj2 hobor vandy kstorey group 1900 to 2000 bigf1979 (host) sam6691 bilgeits rafias mr-burns123 jonstherealdeal hobor group above 2000 mayadesnuda weaponofchoice cmap_komapak merlino normbenign The registration is not close but i don't believe anybody else will sign up. I do need a host for the group 2 of the 1500 1600 and for the above 2000 my player is russian and comunication is an issue. |
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This looks good so far... |
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... I hope all the participants have open mini-tournament slots, otherwise it'll slow things down. But I'm really looking forward to this. |
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If you have a problem... gameknot.com/my_mts.pl?id=bobbob78&old=0 |
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... I'll ask him. What's the mini-tournament setup details and title etc? |
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Group 1200 to 1300 gameknot.com bakanec25 (host) morphyslaw freiburg frauendasein amtroyer makj bigcountry58 budinst searcoid |
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Group 1500 to 1600 (group 2) gameknot.com guyehomen sonofander_pict ritchmex garonna flyfisher |
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Group so far 1100 1200 gameknot.com missing 1 player 1200 1300 gameknot.com full and running 1300 1400 gameknot.com full but 2 pending 1500 1600 group 1 gameknot.com full but 2 pending 1500 1600 group 2 gameknot.com full but 2 pending 1600 1700 gameknot.com full but 5 pending. 1700 1800 Still waiting 1800 1900 Still waiting 1900 2000 gameknot.com missing 2 player 1 pending Over 2000 gameknot.com 1 missing 1 pending. Captain I urge you to try to convince your player to either accept the invitation or to let me know if there a spot missing and are interested. Thank you for your understanding. Jeremy |
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one more group going |
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Advertising these tournaments Hello, team! Would any of you like to represent England in the Inter-team Championships? It is being organised by the "Club Captain" that I am a member of. The idea is this, players are in these categories, Below 1100 1100 to 1200 1200 to 1300 1300 to 1400 1400 to 1500 1500 to 1600 1600 to 1700 1700 to 1800 1800 to 1900 1900 to 2000 and finally above 2000. Then in each category you have a tournament, with a maximum of one player from each team. Please bear in mind that if you are a non-paying member of Gameknot, you can only play in one tournament at a time. Some of these Inter-team tournaments have vacancies, if anyone would like to represent us in them,- 1000 1100 Still waiting 1100 1200 missing 1 player 1200 1300 full and running 1300 1400 full but 2 pending 1500 1600 group 1 full but 2 pending 1500 1600 group 2 full but 2 pending 1600 1700 full but 5 pending. 1700 1800 Still waiting 1800 1900 3 spaces 1900 2000 missing 2 player 1 pending Over 2000 1 missing 1 pending. If anyone wants to join one of these tournaments, please let me know. |
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Another England Champion |
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Tournament Points Dave |
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