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A SCREAM FROM A BROTHER..... TO ALL DEAR CAPTAIN & CO-CAPTAINS
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haddad1956
30-May-09, 18:27

A SCREAM FROM A BROTHER..... TO ALL DEAR CAPTAIN & CO-CAPTAINS
...well ...i m publishing this note hoping & really willing to know the opinion & the comments of the captains & the co-captains about this sad story .. & the abnormal attitude of one of my past team members subii ...may anyone can help me to know the right answer for what happened to me & to my team...even from subii as many of my team members tried to know from him why he did that to his captain & to his team ...really all were trying from 3 days to receive even a word from subii ...but all our efforts failed to receive even a word from him..

...to make this long note short as possible ..you can somewhat know some informations about me by going to my profile ( simply by pressing on my nickname) haddad1956.

...also ...about my team you can find its name in my homepage or from the team ladder or table ..."ARABIAN HEART AND PEACE LOVING NATIONS"...you can go to my team homepage to know more about this team...



...to give you an idea about this story i have to publish copies of my last team messages regarding this issue ...hoping for finding any comment from any of the respectable captains & co-captains... members of this club.....



...these messages were sent to my team starting from 3 days ago....& few hours after i was able to think after recovering from the first shock... receiving a note from GK that one of my members subii left the team without leaving even a small note ...this is ok & normal.....

...but the abnormal is the next shock ....this player intended to resign all his current team games for nothing in few minutes (11 team games) directly after leaving his team & inspite that this player was sharing in this games by a special request from him...


...here are the copies of my team messages may you can understand & know & live this sad story ...

...but please & ..Kindly ...leave me any word or any comment to help me trusting people again after what i saw happening from my dear past team member ...& to be able to be back to my team in a better psychological state...










27-May-09, 17:15

Private message from haddad1956:
Hello, team!
Dear Brothers and Sisters...





....i really feel very bad .... i feel a very bad pschychological feeling ...i really love people ...i love any human ..i love fun ..i love childrens ...well i love life & allways i m hoping for a better life for all..





...well i postponed all my games for 7 days hoping that during this period i can be somewhat be able to think about my next move in my active games...... (i m playing about 80 team games ...and i really cant agree to lose these games for being unable to concentrate & so hurting my team more & more..... as i m really & deeply shoked from what happened from our past team member subii (he left our team few hours ago without even a small note why he left his team)



...i m sending you this message wanting your opinion about a very bad ..ubnormal behaviour from our past team member subii ..really i never see ( & hope i will never see something like that again ..)



...i really in great need for your help to give me your opinion about that..i really need your suggestions ...i really in great need to feel your kind feelings about what happened ....send me even a word ..you will really help me to pass this bad psychological situation...



...but to live & feel this very sad story i must tell you about what happened in this story from the start.







..few days ago i reveived this message from subii




22-May-09, 18:07
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Private message from subii:


Hello, haddad1956!
Hi, hope you and your family are well.

I know you are busy and your time taken up with important things.
May I humbly request, if only I deserve them, more team games.

I am very happy with my international team, it is wonderful!

Many thanks


Regards
Brian Duncan.







...although the team results for subii were relatively not good as he appears allways willing to resign his team games while he still has a great hope to return back to these games.
(remember that i m a very old chess player & its really easy for me to know these criteria about games i see from a very rapid look ...and of course being the captain of this team >>>> i receive messages from GK once any team game is finished to help the captain knowing what was happening in these games)...



...i decided as i felt his wish to return strongly to his team.. to share him in many team games for helping the return of his trust...





...i messaged him back ..& this is a copy of my reply to him...







22-May-09, 18:42
subii
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Private message from haddad1956:

Hello Dear Brian..

...very happy to hear from you dear friend ..i cant be busy for any request to a dear friend like you ...or may i say a brother if you permitted me to say that..

...you are one of the most active players of this team ...& its an honour for the team for offering representing it in more team games by you my dear friend..

...please never feel any load while playing your team games ...we never fear from losing any no. of games ...the real loss is to lose a friend or a brother ...as i usually say ...no one will love to lose a game while he can win it...

...i think you just need more luck ...dont ever worry about that ...your luck will not remain bad for ever ...never get disapointed from losing ...we are all here playing for fun ...to meet new friends & to have a very nice time...

...please dont hesitate at anytime to contact me for any request ...help ..or suggestion ...its allways a real pleasure & honour for me to be allways in touch...

..your team games are coming as fast as possible ...all the best...

LOVE & RESPECT
Maher





...then subii replied to me...






22-May-09, 18:48
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message from subii:

Hello, haddad1956!
Thank you thank you!
With respect thankyou.
Regards,
Brian Duncan.





...then after making my best to faster joining him to any available team challanges...subii send me this message...




24-May-09, 16:07
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Private message from subii:

Hello, haddad1956!
Thank you for your kind words.

Thank you for the games, appreciate it





...then i replied to him...




24-May-09, 17:04
subii
(in reply to msg) Private message from haddad1956:
Hello, subii!

..thanks ...you are allways a dear close friend..

Maher







...from few hours i received the following notice from GK....







27-May-09, 10:37
» team Team member left your team: subii (1575)






....i was really surprised for that ...i didnt think that i hurted your feeling by any mean d=subii...then i was totally surprised to receive very rapid messages from GK all these messages telling me very sadly that my team member subii resigned all his team games ....for no reason ..

...well i really dont know what is the exact purpose for doing that ...is it a kind of hitting any voice for peace...to destroy all the efforts made by 130 kind members.....for destroying a huge respectable international chess team with a main protocol ...LOVE...PEACE ..RESPECT...


..I REALLY DONT KNOW WHY ... I REALLY FEEL THAT I REALLY WANT TO CRY IN MY OLD AGE... TO SEE A HUMAN MAKING THIS TO HIS BROTHER ..I M REALLY SAD AND DAMAGED...


...well i really feel sorry for that...

.....i am really feeling now that i dont deserve to be the captain of this team for this complete failure with one of our past members ...as nothing from this story belong to ...LOVE...PEACE... RESPECTS.


waiting for you replies or even a small word..

Maher









...then i sent this message to my dear brother (one of my dear team members)sae1962 asking him to publish for me this team message ...and he kindly did that...





27-May-09, 18:03
sae1962 Private message from haddad1956:
Hello, sae1962!

..Hello my dear brother...

...please send for me this team message ...i dont want you to get bored from me dear ...this message is really important ...i just sent a team message & i cant send another one now...

LOVE & RESPECTS





Hello Dear Brothers & Sisters...

....i felt that subii has the right to read my team message as its all about him ...so i tried to send him a copy of my message ...but i was really surprised to find myself in his ignore list ????

...i really was hoping to hear from him anything about what happened ..but obviously he dont want to hear anything from me ....or may there is nothing for him to say...

...well thats really very sad ......may God will be with us ...i think really that there is really a great danger on the Earth...

...you may think me kidding about that ....but trying to destroy a CHESS  ) peace team is an unbelievable attitude which must be really cosidered a real danger on any step for peace (even very simple & helpless like our chess team) ...and the near destruction of this planet...

BLESSINGS
Maher






...well i received some comments from my dear team members ...most of them were really wondering & surprised from this abnormal attitude ...some try to find any reason for that.... may he was playing stressed ...or he found somehing unacceptable for him in my messages to him ....but in the end they were against this abnormal attitude...

...well i received these comments from the following team members... music_man1932 (USA)....rayfisher (USA)....matthewupstairs (Australlia) ....alaa-mohsen (Egypt) ...sbmr (USA).... gor2i (USA) ...pratik1976 (India) ...timwhiffler (Australia)..whimjest (USA)...anish368 (India)...azzrael (Australia)...annexgaarden (Denmark)...ssakom (Croatia)....mdebess (Egypt)...kapishagarwal (india)...mamogli (Tunisia)...engbobo (Egypt)...sae1962 (Austria & European Union)...mihael1968 (Greece)...madsen (Brazil)...chimesatmidnight (United Kingdom)...bonga77 (Pakistan)...bowtimary(USA)...molly9112 (Egypt)...dhruvagarwal (India)





...well these are copies of my replies to them regarding this ubnormal case...







27-May-09, 18:14
music_man1932
(in reply to msg) Private message from haddad1956:
Hello, music_man1932!


..he left the team after cheating me that he want to play & to restore his trust ...he left the team & allready resigned all his team games (you can see that by your eyes ..just click on his nickname ...you will log to his profile ..then look at his past game history ...you will find 11 team games resigned in 27/05/2009 for nothing ...then go to his games in progress (active games) you will find him playing his other regular & tournement games ...

...i tried to message him to know anything or any reason for that ...but i was surprised to find myself unable to send him any message as he put me in his ignore list..

...thanks for being in touch & for your kind interest my dear great friend.

LOVE & RESPECTS
Maher







28-May-09, 06:06
mamogli
(in reply to msg) Private message from haddad1956:
Hello, mamogli!


..first & before any comment i want to say that you are serving your team by an excellent manner through playing your team games ...& regardless of the net score of your games...



...i cant find the proper words to thank you for this dear brother ...i really was very willing to hear any comment or word why subii did that ....why he cheated me...if he was feeling stressed for playing to a team ...why he resigned all his team games immediately after leaving his team ..he can continue these games & trying his best for his old team while playing without any kind of stress these team games & not resigning all these games without any logical reason for that...

..i really want to hear even a word from subii..but as i informed you through my team message (sent with great many thanks to our team through our dear member sae1962) .... for more increase to my surprise & confusion i founded myself in his ignore list .....this is another question to him as i really never hurted his feelings by anyway or any mean..



...i really love my team ..i dont ever be sad for a lost game ...i dont care unless for my humanity ...my brothers ...& my friends ...

...i m really sad for subii ..not for losing his games but for losing his humanity...


..i will try to contact GK to know their opinion about this case of team cheating...





LOVE & RESPECTS
Maher







...i m really sorry for this vey long thread ...but really this player didnt cause heart to me alone ...but he hurted all his teammates (130 members) & i really cant know why?????????????????????????????




LOVE....PEACE....RESPECT.
Maher





doji
31-May-09, 11:16

Maher
A long thread indeed, I can tell you are shocked, which I can very well understand.....
I think you should read on this forum a sad story, sent by me (you find it on page 2), so you find a similar story.

Why he did this to our team, I will never know,....

What helped me, after "a shocking" period is to let go the why.... because it takes a lot of energy from you and you won't get the answer, unless subii tells you, which he won't because he is ignoring you.

BUT: maybe, just maybe, it has nothing to do with you or the team! I can imagine you search the answer there. My experience is that people sometimes forget that after all these nicknames are persons.... but, and this could recover your trust a little maybe, my experience is too that it is a minority that forgets it, most people do know that very well.

I prefer, after what happened to our (previous) team, to keep on trusting people of which I think that can be trusted. You have other members in you team that are worth to be trusted.

I hope you can do the same, that you will get over it and continue, as I said earlier to you in a private msg: you have a heart-warming team!!!!

Jo
kingdawar
31-May-09, 11:32

Yes, as a team captain you gather a group of people you trust, and based on that trust you assign them team matches et cetera. If someone times out or just leaves and resigns all their remaining games, that might be considered a break of trust. On the other side - do not worry too much about it, as you can prepare that it will happen a lot more often, especially in a team of so many people.
britgrl
04-Jun-09, 10:10

...that is a rough story and try not take it to heart.

....easier said than done I know - but honestly you don't know where people are really coming from. Words are so easy to say for some, and actions will always speak louder...

...it is better off that your team is without this player - Your a great Captain and no one can take that from you - your team is behind you -

...like doji said - move forward and take the good energy that you have and shine it on your team!!!

...Take Care..

Laurie



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