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johnclark
15-Jul-09, 18:42

10.Nd5
Results:
10.e5 (1 vote)
10.Bg5 (1 vote)
10.Nd5 (2 votes)

Club Morphy v Knights of Honor gameknot.com

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5
6. d4 exd4 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. O-O dxc3 9. Nxc3 Nf6 10. Nd5 *

We await Knight's of Honor's 10th move.
johnclark
18-Jul-09, 14:24

It's our move
knights of Honor moved 10...Qf8

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1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5
6. d4 exd4 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. O-O dxc3 9. Nxc3 Nf6 10. Nd5 Qf8 *

We are now open for suggestions and discussion.
cyna
18-Jul-09, 14:54

Move 11
Attacking black's King with Nxc7+ or Nxf6+ we stand lose white's knight. I'm looking at Ba3(?)
antagonistknight
19-Jul-09, 19:37

Ba3 attacking the queen I feel is the most forcing move. Black's only real option is d6, because all other moves will lose material for Black.
pennsylvaniadan
19-Jul-09, 23:51

move 11
Ba3 looks like our best move---
johnclark
19-Jul-09, 23:59

Move 11.Ba3??
And what happens when black moves 11...d6? He blocks the queen threat and opens a line for his light squared bishop.

Perhaps we should look at 11.e5 as a forerunner to Ba3?
antagonistknight
20-Jul-09, 06:11

Here is the best continuation after e5 11. e5 Nxd5 12. Bxd5 Nb4 13. Ba3 c6 14. Qa4 Qc5 15. Be4 Qb5 16. Qxb5 cxb5



As you can see our pieces are no longer working together and our queen's have been traded off, we still hold a lead in development but that will not last long.

After 11. Ba3 d6 we follow with Qa4 intending Bb5 next which pins the knight to the king allowing us to capture the bishop at a5 depending on how black moves. After 12. Qa4 black has a few options but we will be able to apply more and more pressure on the queen-side until it eventually colapses.
johnclark
20-Jul-09, 21:05

11.Ba3?? ...d6 12.Qa4 Bd7!
I think 12...Bd7 will probably be black's move rather than 12...Nb4.

I was first inclined to go with 11.Bb2. That keeps the pressure on black's knight while clearing out the first rank for our castle.
antagonistknight
21-Jul-09, 08:16

After 12. ... Bd7 then we move Bb5 so when we capture on c6, if black recaptures on c6 we gain the bishop at a5. So that continuation will more than likely turn out 12. ... Bd7 13. Bb5 Bb6 or 13. ... Rc8, if black chooses Bb6 then we capture with Nxb6 and holes will start to appear in Black's queenside. If Black goes with Rc8 then we capture with 14. Bxc6 bxc6 15. Nxf6 gxf6 16. Qxa5 and we are up a piece. Either way we are gaining more of a foothold on Black's queenside.
johnclark
22-Jul-09, 22:27

End of discussion- time to vote
Club Morphy v Knights of Honor gameknot.com

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5
6. d4 exd4 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. O-O dxc3 9. Nxc3 Nf6 10. Nd5 Qf8 *

Please vote for one of the following suggested moves:
11.Ba3
11.e5
11.Bb2
antagonistknight
23-Jul-09, 06:03

11. Ba3
I vote for 11. Ba3
pennsylvaniadan
23-Jul-09, 08:49

move 11
I vote for Ba3
ironbutterfly
23-Jul-09, 15:23

move 11
I vote for Ba3 also.
johnclark
24-Jul-09, 12:40

Club Morphy moves 11.Ba3
Club Morphy v Knights of Honor gameknot.com

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5
6. d4 exd4 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. O-O dxc3 9. Nxc3 Nf6 10. Nd5 Qf8
11. Ba3 *

It's KOH's 11th move.
cyna
24-Jul-09, 18:02

Deleted by cyna on 24-Jul-09, 18:04.
cyna
24-Jul-09, 18:05

Move 11
As per my conversation with JC last night, I voted for 11.Ba3; but just had a late posting here. Sorry for the delay, I was tied up with work related issues. Good move, you guys!!
johnclark
28-Jul-09, 21:11

It's now Club Morphy's 12th move
Knights of Honor has moved 11...d6

Club Morphy v Knights of Honor gameknot.com

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5
6. d4 exd4 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. O-O dxc3 9. Nxc3 Nf6 10. Nd5 Qf8
11. Ba3 d6 *

We are now open for suggestions and discussion.
antagonistknight
29-Jul-09, 05:15

12. Qa4
For reasons in discussion above, I feel this is the best move.

pennsylvaniadan
29-Jul-09, 07:14

move 12
Can't dispute hbird's reasoning---Qa4
cyna
29-Jul-09, 14:17

Move 12. Qa4
I first thought about 12. Nc7+ but now I agree that Qa4 is the strongest option.
ironbutterfly
29-Jul-09, 18:37

move 12
Qa4 is my vote also.
johnclark
01-Aug-09, 23:04

Club Morphy moves 12.Qa4
Club Morphy v Knights of Honor gameknot.com

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5
6. d4 exd4 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. O-O dxc3 9. Nxc3 Nf6 10. Nd5 Qf8
11. Ba3 d6 12. Qa4 *

As there are no other suggestions for consideration, 12.Qa4 is our move. It it now KOH's 12th move.
7split10
05-Aug-09, 17:47

KOH moved Bd7
Just clicked on the link and saw that KOH went 12. Qa4 Bd7. I think a rather obvious move here is Bb5 winning a minor piece.
johnclark
05-Aug-09, 17:54

It's our 13th move
KOH has moved 12...Bd7

Club Morphy v Knights of Honor gameknot.com

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5
6. d4 exd4 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. O-O dxc3 9. Nxc3 Nf6 10. Nd5 Qf8
11. Ba3 d6 12. Qa4 Bd7 *

We are now open for suggestions and discussion on our 13th move.
antagonistknight
06-Aug-09, 06:25

Bb5
7split10 is correct, Bb5 is the best move here. After the ensuing exchange on c6 we will pick up the bishop on a5.
cyna
06-Aug-09, 12:39

Move 13
Ditto. My vote: Bb5
pennsylvaniadan
06-Aug-09, 12:56

move 13
Bb5 looks good to me
ironbutterfly
06-Aug-09, 14:45

my vote on move 13
I agree: Bb5 is best, and gets my support and vote.
johnclark
09-Aug-09, 19:53

Club Morphy moves 13.Bb5
As there are no other suggestions, voting is suspended and Club Morphy moves 13.Bb5.

Club Morphy v Knights of Honor gameknot.com

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5
6. d4 exd4 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. O-O dxc3 9. Nxc3 Nf6 10. Nd5 Qf8
11. Ba3 d6 12. Qa4 Bd7 13. Bb5 *

It's KOH's move.
johnclark
14-Aug-09, 22:38

It's Club Morphy's 14th move...
KOH has moved 13...Bb6

Club Morphy v Knights of Honor gameknot.com

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5
6. d4 exd4 7. Qb3 Qe7 8. O-O dxc3 9. Nxc3 Nf6 10. Nd5 Qf8
11. Ba3 d6 12. Qa4 Bd7 13. Bb5 Bb6 *

We are now open for suggestions and discussion.
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