CHESS TACTICS #117051

Problem's rating:1720
Avg. time to solve:02:09
Total attempts:480
Solved percentage:60.4%
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donfernando
19-Jun-12, 08:18

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3....Kd8, why not???
then 4. Nxf7, Ke8
5. NxR, cxB
then the knight, have no place to go and the blacks keeps their Queen

can a high rated player explain it to me???
ricardoruben
19-Jun-12, 15:41

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yeah, why not?
I ask the same question, I believe the problem is wrong, since playing with gameknot computer gives 3...Kd8. They should take this problem out.
ricardoruben
01-Jul-12, 08:19

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People of gameknot:
This is the only way I found to try and warn you about was is happening here on gameknot, please if you know any of the guys that run the site, let them know.

Recently I have found that most players in blitz chess have their chat option disabled. It was strange and I was wondering why.

Then, two games in a row with two different players, while in a completely winning position, my connection was lost. In one case I could not even reconnect.

The result was that I got mad and went to search for another site and ended up playing 5 more hours on another chess site having no problems at all with the connection.

Before playing here I used to play in yahoo but because of that same problem (they where sending scripts to delay you) I ended up leaving. I have never played again there, because I found gameknot, I liked it, and I didn't need anything else.

Now this is happening and if it keeps happening I will leave gameknot and find a place to play where the other players are not given the change to do such things.

One idea is that you could disable automatically the chat option after the first tree moves and the moment the game is over, enable it automatically again, so you can greet your opponent. Maybe that might work until you find a way to control this guys.

Thank you.
schizoidman
01-Jul-12, 12:00

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donfernando's question
There is n need t take the rook right away:
1. ... c6
2. Ne4 Qc7
3. Nd6+ Kd8
4. Nxf7+ Ke8
5. Nd6+ Kd8
6. Bd3
Save the bishop first. The rook can still be forked next move. e.g.
6. Bd3 h6
7. Nf7+ Ke8
8. Nxh8 hxg5
9. Ng6
and white is up a an exchange and a pawn. Other attempts to save the rook fail as well.
Black is better than the Gameknot line, but is still lost.

laurelhill
16-Dec-12, 12:48

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I still don't agree that 3....Qxd6 is better than 3....Kd8. Swapping the rook and a pawn for a bishop is surely better.
myevilluck
16-Dec-12, 15:17

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Kd8
@schizoidman Had the right idea, but in reality the computer probably considers either Qxd6 or kd8 pretty equal.

1. ... c6
2. Ne4 Qc7
3. Nd6+ Kd8
4. Nxf7+ Ke8
5. Nd6+ Kd8
6. Bd3 h6
7. Bxe7 Kxe7
8. Nh4 Nf4
9. Qf3 Nxd3
10. Qxd3

White has saved all its pieces and still won the rook + pawn, and has a way better position.
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