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fezzik 06-Apr-12, 00:34 » Report abuse |
33% solve rate and only 2 stars? |
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vetton 06-Apr-12, 02:56 » Report abuse |
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sidthekid 06-Apr-12, 02:57 » Report abuse |
I agree fezzik, |
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sidthekid 06-Apr-12, 03:03 » Report abuse |
Vetton, ¿por que? |
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VettonAdemás, fíjate que este puzle es una composición de 1906. Seguro que si estuviera mal no habría podido ser publicado. |
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fezzikMost people that solved the puzzle found it easy and marked it as a 2 stars one, but that doesn't mean that all the people that tried were able to solve it. Anyway, it's a good one. I like the way he play with the idea that the bishop can be exposed to be captured with no change in the final result. |
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phonybenoni 06-Apr-12, 06:19 » Report abuse |
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jimu57 06-Apr-12, 06:31 » Report abuse |
not a 1 or 2 star |
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phonybenoniSo, keeping that idea in mind my personal process to solve the puzzle was: The king: Moving it I can't cover all the black king's moves to mate in the next move. Even more, the only logical square to place it cuts the diagonal for the queen. So that's not the way. The Queen: Whatever you move the queen, either rows, diagonal or columns, you can't mate in a 2nd move, because the black king has more than one square to move and keep safe from the mate and you queen doesn't have any other piece to support it. The bishop: OK, it seems that the bishop is the answer and it's supposed you have to move it to a square where it can support the queen for checkmating. But if I put it in the main diagonal I block the queen's path to the black king and in other diagonal it does nothing to mate with the queen in the next move. So, where do I have to put it? It was the when I realised that the only square is c8, if black king takes it you can checkmate in a8 and it it's not taken you can checkmate with the queen in b7. Of course that was my way but, as you can see, it wasn't a matter of imagination but a simple process of eliminating the alternatives. It may sound a bit weird but maybe it would cost me much more to find out the answer if the puzzle had had more pieces. Sorry for the long post ... |
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eugen1943 06-Apr-12, 08:38 » Report abuse |
minds |
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elfuego51 06-Apr-12, 10:56 » Report abuse |
Got it in five seconds |
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phonybenoni 06-Apr-12, 10:57 » Report abuse |
marvin2By the way, that "no check on the first move" rule generally applies to positions composed by professional problem makers. If the position comes from an actual game, anything goes. |
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rich_sposato 06-Apr-12, 10:58 » Report abuse |
![]() Given that most people failed to solve this one, this certainly doesn't belong in the "easy" category. As I said before, puzzles should get ELO ratings for difficulty instead of just stars. |
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Someone said ...The problem is that those changes imply to much work. |
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sidthekid 06-Apr-12, 11:43 » Report abuse |
Well said rich_sposato |
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Improving puzzle stuffI don't know if they will do anything about it (who know?). |
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mihaimarinescu 06-Apr-12, 13:11 » Report abuse |
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Liked it; gave it 3 Stars |
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theawesumlekha 06-Apr-12, 15:30 » Report abuse |
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joyyan 06-Apr-12, 15:39 » Report abuse |
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blackmonkey 06-Apr-12, 16:54 » Report abuse |
finally!and you're right (and it doesn't sound weird), the process you described would cost more time and energy if there were more pieces but maybe not much more. in regards to me, if there's a full board with pieces all over the place, i'll find the major pieces first starting with the queen and do the same thing you did. i think that's why pawn mate puzzles are rare and good to find because it's the least likely piece on a full board to finish off a king. though, it does happen! your post was exactly what i needed. |
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tonymac 06-Apr-12, 21:36 » Report abuse |
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nickpalmer 06-Apr-12, 22:14 » Report abuse |
tonymac, the reason the king doesn't take the bishop is... |
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vetton 07-Apr-12, 12:22 » Report abuse |
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blackmonkey 07-Apr-12, 12:35 » Report abuse |
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