# chess online

## CHESS PUZZLE #16791

 Added by: bubanja Added on: 05-Nov-09 Description: Dieter Kutzborski Difficulty: online chess puzzle #16791 Attempts: 625 Solved: 88 (14%)
White to move, mate in 12
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tgumps
18-Dec-12, 01:02

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crazy
I really have no words for this puzzle. I'm not a fan of the mate-in-double-digits puzzles, but I felt compelled to solve it. I succeeded eventually...
indra_90
18-Dec-12, 04:02

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Really nice puzzle but it wasn't as hard as it first looked. White nearly almost only had one option. There was at move 10 that white could move Nh5 instead of Nd5 but that didn't lead to mate in 12 so was wrong.
 doubleeg_xent18-Dec-12, 09:27

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indra_90
18-Dec-12, 09:35

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@doubleeg_xent
Hmm, what are you talking about? Do you know which way the board is turned?
fezzik
18-Dec-12, 11:34

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Solved...
When I first looked at this puzzle I considered passing on it because of the ridiculous piece count. My first reaction was, What exactly is the purpose of the four pieces in the corner?

But I worked on it a bit and really enjoyed working through the ways to force the mate with the two Knights.

I then tried to tidy up the puzzle by deleting the 4 pieces in the corner.

If you remove the four pieces in the corner, the position becomes a mate in 6 and there's more than one solution at move 5. So they do serve a real purpose after all!

I give it:

4.5 Stars difficulty
4 Stars Aesthetics. I still don't like the artificial feel of the position, but at least every piece has a purpose.
 rangothemango18-Dec-12, 11:45

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bunnyrabbitz
18-Dec-12, 16:58

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interesting
I solved it with 2 misses, but I think we are allowed 3 misses total before solving a puzzle and have it be "successfully solved".
 blitzkov18-Dec-12, 18:33

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bunnyrabbitz,
Actually, it's five.

Truthfully, I did not know if I was going to solve this one or not. I don't trying these type of Problems. But I solved it!
 doubleeg_xent03-Jan-13, 20:19

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Honestly people after white moves kf4 there is no way black moves that knight. Black take that free piece with that pawn. I know you see it. I can't be alone???
 doubleeg_xent03-Jan-13, 20:22

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@indra_90
Honestly people after white moves kf4 there is no way black moves that knight. Black take that free piece with that pawn. I know you see it. I can't be alone???
indra_90
04-Jan-13, 00:09

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@doubleeg_xent: I don't know if you're talking about 2. Nf4 Nb4 but if you do, how else do you think that black should save himself from 3. Nd3#?

If you would mean 8. Nf4 Nc5 the same thing would apply, on 9. Nd3# would mate if black wouldn't make that Knight-move.

If you are the only one who can see one thing, don't you think that you're the one who missed something?
 doubleeg_xent13-Jan-13, 05:00

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@indra_90
So if you was black, on the second move, when your pawn can take that white knight, free of charge, you would still move your black knight?
indra_90
13-Jan-13, 07:57

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@doubleeg_xent
I'll ask the same question as I did at the beginning: "Do you know which way the board is turned?"... !!!

The black pawn can't capture the knight since the black pawns are moving the other way.