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CHESS PUZZLE #3361

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Added by:chesskingdelux
Added on:24-Mar-08
Description:We meet Again Mr. Bond...
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online chess puzzle #3361
Attempts:5752
Solved:5561 (96%)
White to move, mate in 2
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mrcelada
17-Dec-11, 08:11

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You can mate in the moves you want. If black cooperates... I wont play chess anymore here, more than five games and still 1200 without losing any game! You must to be premium if you want to play with someone of your level?
ionadowman
17-Dec-11, 16:20

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mrcelada...
... Istayed on 1200 for something like 10 or 20 games. Then, having played enough to get a real rating, I receved one, and it was considerably north of 1200 by then. Stay with it, and you will get the rating you deserve.
cdeburca
23-Dec-11, 14:40

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You don't get a rating until you've finished six games. So finish the one you're currently playing and you'll have a rating. There's no point rating someone after one game; it can skew things quite significantly.
kirishh
16-Jan-12, 12:09

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how can you make this puzzle if you are allowed a maximum of 4 queens
cdeburca
16-Jan-12, 15:20

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Who said you're allowed a maximum of four queens?
ionadowman
16-Jan-12, 16:18

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The maximum allowed...
... is NINE queens.
phonybenoni
16-Jan-12, 18:15

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Isn't the maximum possible eighteen--nine for each player?



Mate in 7: 1.Qxa7+ Qaxa7 2.Qxa7+ Qaxa7 3.Qxa7+ Qaxa7 4.Qxa7+ Qaxa7 5.Qxa7+ Qaxa7 6.Qxb8+ Qcxb8 7.Nb6#

ionadowman
16-Jan-12, 19:18

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Well...
Puzzles of that sort are interesting, though I call them 'anti-puzzles'. They are still puzzles, but not of positions that could possibly arise from a legal game of chess. Is it theoretically possible for both sides to promote all 9 pawns?

It turns out that contrary to my first thought, it ought indeed to be possible, however contrived. One way is to ensure the pawns are doubled or tripled on different files. You could, for example, bring all the white pawns onto the a, c, f and g files; the Black pawns on the files remaining. This is achieved by capturing pieces.
This position was reached after several legal moves:
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What happens from here is that all the pawns ignore each other and run home, making way after promotion for the next little fellow in the queue.

But in fact I had it in mind that the maximum number of pawns of a particular colour was nine, leaving open the total number of queens on the board.
cdeburca
17-Jan-12, 04:31

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It's perfectly possible alright, if quite contrived. Tim Krabbé's website - timkr.home.xs4all.nl - notes the record number of passed pawns in a game as 9:

- Smyslov v Botvinnik, USSR ch, 1941, while the most queens on the board at any one time was 6 -

- Szalanczy v Nguyen, Budapest, 2009

So seemingly contrived positions can actually occur at times.

This is in serious games, of course. I've promoted to nine queens against a low-level computer chess, and in a schools tournament, I've seen a lad promote eight times, sac all his queens and mate with a rook.
kirishh
17-Jan-12, 11:48

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if you make a puzzle you can't have more than 4 queens try to make one now
fantasycat
19-Jan-12, 11:17

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nooooooooooooooo,non riesco più a smettere di ridere!
fantasycat
19-Jan-12, 11:22

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nel tempo di oggi non si possono fare troppe

RRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
fantasycat
19-Jan-12, 11:24

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come dice kingdawar:

Wrong position?

illegal position!
fantasycat
21-Jan-12, 06:52

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è un vero peccato che l' autore sia scomparso da Gameknot
bolt_eater
02-Feb-12, 01:04

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Capablanca
some people roll in their graves with grief and despair... some people roll in their graves with laughter and joy. Jose is turning in his grave with all the msg's he gets on this site with all the possibilities and all the people laughing at this ridiculous sh**... fun for him! if Jose were alive today he would use a Salisbury Pi computer 750 MgHz with ubuntu i7334 OS. it would fit in his wallet and he could walk through any metal detector.

i bid you all a farewell in the opium laded plutonium driven century. i fear you know not what is about to befall humanity.

subway1
26-Feb-12, 07:25

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lol
It can last 55 moves!
blackmonkey
08-Apr-12, 11:32

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White to move, white to LOSE
I got black to mate in 20
strepsil999
09-Apr-12, 02:11

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How could anyone fail this puzzle??!!
kirishh
09-Apr-12, 09:20

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how can black mate in 20 it's not possible if it's forced mate?
blackmonkey
09-Apr-12, 09:40

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ANSWERS
strepsil999. First, nobody could EVER be as smart as you. Ever. That's something you should come to terms with. Second, the answer to your question is very simple.

Answer: By not making the right moves. Seems counter-intuitive, I know, but it's the truth. If you have any doubts, please refer to my previous statement about your unmatched genius.


kirishh. It's possible if White doesn't try to mate. Anyway, forced mate is a lot like rape. White's just not that kind of guy.
fantasycat
09-Apr-12, 10:24

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ma.... me lo chiedo ancora.....
vergiliu
09-Apr-12, 12:04

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If a puzzle has more than 10 alternative solutions,it is automatically deleted.This one has 11 alts and it wasn't
deleted.Why?
fantasycat
09-Apr-12, 12:06

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no vergiliu!!!!!!!
elfuego51
09-Apr-12, 18:50

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@vergiliu
Allowing 11 alts vs. telling 58 women they're not welcome. The former is by far the more obvious choice.
kirishh
10-Apr-12, 03:49

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it's not deleted as the creater of this puzzle put 11 alt. solutions not other people
vergiliu
10-Apr-12, 07:02

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kirishh
You might be right.Thanks!I'm going to test that.
bolt_eater
12-Apr-12, 08:49

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LOVE IT
i love this puzzle.
savonsika
13-Apr-12, 09:24

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Too unrealistic...
davidjrb
27-May-12, 20:57

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unloosable
This puzzle must be significant in a way that controversial piece of art is. It's got the most number of comments of any puzzle.
savonsika
28-May-12, 06:33

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Not from this world.
torrey64
01-Aug-12, 09:28

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Ok?
This is a kind of pointless puzzle.  
zoten_deschain
12-Oct-12, 03:07

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Really?
Really someone is complaining about how unrealistic is this puzzle?
You don't say?
Come on guys, take it easy, it's OBVIOUSLY a funny-made-for-fun puzzle :/
Don't take thing SO seriously!
marc21
05-Nov-12, 05:05

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Anyone forgot about the 4% not being able to solve this problem? Just commented since this puzzle has the most number of comments xD
mowhawk
20-Dec-12, 18:54

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beat you all
i got like 51
mrcelada
21-Dec-12, 06:02

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You can even loose this game.
You can mate in any moves you want, more than 300 moves if you want... You can even be checkmated.
Just keep black queen in the diagonal capturing white queens until all white queen be captured.
ionadowman
21-Dec-12, 07:22

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The point of this puzzle...
... is to exercise the imagination, and to study the power of the Queen.

I don't know whether you have seen retrograde analysis puzzles, but a lot of those look just as silly. Yet the deductive thinking required, knowing what the chessmen can do, has been said by strong players to have helped develop their game.

I was thinking that to set up this puzzle you would have to buy 54 chess sets. Or, if you are going to allow inverted rooks to stand in for queens, you can get away with 18 chess sets.
theflash1234
26-Jan-13, 08:31

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1. Q6xc6 Qxd8
2. Qd7d6 Qxe8
3. Qec7 Qxf8
4. Q7b6 Qxg8
5. Q7e7 Qxh8
6. Q7d7 Qxh7
7. Q7c7 Qxg7
8. Q7d7 Qxh6
9. Q7c7 Qxg6
10. Q7d7 Qxf6
11. Q7e7 Qxe6
12. Qef7 Qxd6
13. Qfg7 Qdxc6
14. Qgh7 Qcxb6
15. Qhg8+ Qd8
16. Qge6 Qdxd5
17. Q6d6 Qxd4
18. Qde6 Qxd3
19. Q6d6 Qxd2
20. Qde6 Qxd1
21. Q6f6 Qxe1
22. Q6g6 Qxf1
23. Q6h6 Qxf2
24. Q6g6 Qxe4
25. Q6f6 Qexf3
26. Qfg7 Qxa5
27. Q7g6 Q2xe2
28. Qef2 Qexf2
29. Q6f6 Qxa4
30. Qfd6 Qxa3
31. Qdc6+ Qxc6
32. Q2f3 Qcxf3+
33. Q1g2 Qxa2
34. Qhg1 Qxa1
35. Qge1 Qxe1+
36. Kh2 Qxb1
37. Qgf1 Qexf1
38. Q1d1 Qbxd1
39. Qgf2 Qb7
40. Qfe1 Qdxe1
41. Qbc1 Qxc1
42. Qcd1 Qcxd1
43. Qfc1 Qxc1
44. Qfb1 Qxb1
45. Qee1 Qfxe1
46. Qgc1 Qbxc1
47. Qgd1 Qcxd1
48. Qh7 Qxh7
49. Qh6 Qxh6
50. Kg2 Qxb3
51. Qhe6 Qhxe6
52. Qc2 Qxc2+
53. Qe2 Qcc1
54. Qd1 Qcxd1
55. Qb1 Qxb1
56. Qc1 Qbxc1
57. Qb1 Qxb1
58. Kh2 Qc2#

black has a slight chance of winning
mowhawk
17-Feb-13, 21:07

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the 4% who got it wrong probably did it on purpose...
blitzkov
17-Feb-13, 21:34

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