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jstevens1
3/07/2008
14:29:58
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 Subject: A narrow squeak against a lower rated player!
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Just to say that I had a very narrow squeak against a player 300 points south of my rating. I played the game called "In The Dentist's Chair" in the public gallery pretty badly and I was sooo lucky to come away with a win in that match. Has anybody else on this forum had a bad experience like this. If so, and you do not wish to post it on the forum you could always send me a PM!
Oh well, Friday today - have a nice weekend everyone!
Bye for now.
Joanne
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ravster
3/07/2008
14:33:36
[ report abuse ] | Yes...
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I have had such a game also 300 points under my rating. I was soo lucky to win it i annotated it:
 gameknot.com
It is called 'the win in your hands.
Ravi
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tugger
3/08/2008
11:23:06
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 game
ratings at the time were as follows...
eldude (943) tugger (1709)
a very lucky escape for me, i was beaten, but he timed out... i felt very guilty, but relieved at the same time!
it was an odd game, i made a mistake and dropped a rook, then made a couple of excellent moves to pull back to within a pawn... then i messed up again, he seized upon my mistake and then timed out... a big shame for him really, it would've been his best win... to be fair to him, he's far better than his rating suggests, he has a 40% time out ratio, and as such his rating is much lower than it should be... i'd guess it should be around the 1400-1500 area.
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chessnovice
3/09/2008
06:03:41
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I've had similar experiences OTB, particularly in tournament play. I remember there were two years in a row where I was part of a team that wound up pitted against a group of middle schoolers. I never underestimate players by their age, but they were significantly lower rated. Somehow, in both years, I dropped a rook very early in the game and had to fight back to win against very bad odds.
To make matters worse, when I hung my rook, the opponent was literally dancing in his chair! My teammates who looked over at me said I was literally turning red with anger.
Those kinds of games just wear at my soul. :p
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tugger
3/09/2008
08:44:36
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there's a lesson there... don't dance in your chair until your opponent resigns!
i play a lot of poker, and see some similar things happening there... there's always a bit of banter between us all, but sometimes it goes a bit far, and on one occasion the loudest one amongst us lost a big hand, he was down to just a few chips. the lad who won that hand said something rather rude to the loser, and you could see he was not happy. but, it was too early to be giving that kind of stick... he recovered and ended up knocking him out. the moral of the story... you only dish out the stick when it can't come back to haunt you!
chessnovice, i'd have been delighted to win from a rook down, especially after my opponent was dancing in his chair, and i'd have made sure he knew how happy i was.
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chessnovice
3/09/2008
10:17:08
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I've had some pretty miraculous comebacks after nasty blunders in tournament play. Believe me, something deep down inside of me wanted to brag something fierce in front of the kid. But like I said, they were young and pretty low-rated. I can understand how they'd feel uncontrollably happy to be on the winning side of the board.
And honestly, I think they beat themselves up emotionally more than I ever would. The kid was certainly not dancing in his chair after the game ended. I've made kids cry OTB by fighting back from blunders, and it's not a pretty sight.
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ionadowman
3/09/2008
12:51:39
[ report abuse ] | Round 1...
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... Easter tournament, Wellington, 1977. My opponent was one J. Blaikie, rating somewhere between 600 and 700 below mine. Here's the plot:
White: Mr Blaikie; Black: Yr Obdt Servant
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4 Nf6
5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 d6 7.c3 d3!? 8.Qxd3 0-0
9.Nbd2 Ng4 10.Nb3 Nge5 11.Nxe4 Nxe4 12.Qf1 Nxc4
13.Qxc4 Kh8 14.Be3 f5 15.f3 f4 16.Bf2 Rf6
17.Nd4 c5? 18.Nf5 g3? 19.Bh4! ...
Now I began to realize I had a fight on my hands...
19...gxf5 20.Bxf6+ Bxf6
21.exf5 Be5 22.Qf7 Qg1 23.Qh5 Bd7 24.Rxe5! ...
Bold and courageous! The amazing thing about this was that White had just 6 minutes left on his clock to reach move 36 (Time control 36 moves in 90 minutes)! I still had 40 minutes...
24...dxe4 25.f6 Qe6 26.f7 Rf8 27.Re1 Qxf7? 28.Qxe4+ Qg7
29.Qxc5 Rg8 30.Re2 Bc6 31.Qf2 Qd7 32.Rd2 Qg7
33.Rd4 Qe5 34.h3 Re8 35.Qf1 Bb5 36.Qd1 Qe1+
Both sides make the time control with flags trembling...
37.Qxe1 Rxe1+
Now that the queens have come off, Black has a long and technically difficult ending with very problematical winning chances...
38.Kf2?? Rf1#
OK, I was never in much danger of losing, but even a draw would have been sufficiently embarrassing. Good on my opponent, though, and he came very close to sharing the point!
Cheers,
Ion
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lturner
3/11/2008
05:33:02
[ report abuse ] | Nothing personal
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But....why do people post really bad played games as a badge of honor?
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chessnovice
3/11/2008
06:08:44
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I would say it's because being able to identify and explain mistakes is as much of a component of learning as being able to identify and explain good moves.
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ionadowman
3/12/2008
23:52:27
[ report abuse ] | But there can be other reasons...
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... Now, me, I'm into stories. My main hobby is miniatures wargaming - campaigns if I can get 'em - because the game tells a story. So does a game of chess. And, if we experience a story that interests us, we tell it to others. In chess, quite often an imprecisely played game (i.e. "badly" played) leads to a good story.
Further, not only do 1500-level players play at 2000-level every now and then, but 2000-level player occasionally will play a 1500-level game. That's when interesting "human interest" things happen.
Cheers,
Ion
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g_one
3/20/2008
03:01:16
[ report abuse ] | If only everyone .......
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Chess coaches should teach their students a bit more etiquette (if I spelt that wrong I hope you know what I mean). For me Susan Polgar sums it up, "win with grace, lose with dignity."
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