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frankambruce

8/18/2008
03:27:51

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Subject: puzzle #5698

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I have been looking through the different moves the Bishop could do in this puzzle and the next obviously only move the Knight would do in order to reach the mate. I was surprised that Nc7 as an alternative solution had been rejected as leading to more moves than the given solution. I look and relook at the board but can't understand why Nc7 would not be a mate within the two moves to mate. Could some of you more-experienced-players help me with that ?

ganstaman

8/18/2008
04:29:33

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Well 1. Nc7 Bxc7+ and if 2. Kxc7, we have stalemate (which is a draw, and not checkmate). Any other second move by white doesn't mate either, so 1. Nc7 doesn't deliver mate-in-2 (in fact, I don't think it even wins at all).

heinzkat

8/18/2008
04:33:50

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I think you want to add an alternative mating move, which isn't possible. I.e.

1. Ka6 Bh8
2. Nb6# or Nc7#

Both moves will be accepted when someone tries to solve the puzzle; but you cannot add an alternative to GK's automatic 2. Nb6#.


frankambruce

8/18/2008
04:55:28

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Thank you ganstaman and heinzkat for your prompt responses.

heinzkat: I see. I came back on the refreshed board and the Bishop got on f3, when the Nc7 has been accepted. But... as I had been looking through your puzzle an hour ago, coming to the solution and hitting the returnbutton beneith the board to study the alternative solutions, I noticed that the Nc7 option hadn't been available. Shouldn't all possible solutions be in the Solutionlist on the right of the board?

PS: I like your puzzles heinzkat. Maybe one day I come through the twothousand and thanks to the given pratice might be prepared to offer you a nice game :)


tugger

8/25/2008
13:41:41

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i find it unusual that if there are two possible mates at the end of a puzzle, only one is listed in the possible moves. i guess it's because the puzzle maker here spots a mate in one immediately, records the first move it spots, then moves onto a different position. but all mate in one moves are accepted when solving, even if it isn't listed.



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