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evader23

2/26/2008
07:46:15

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Subject: Chess Database

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the use of chess Databases are legal here. I am making one of my own to help me in the long run do you think it'll help or hurt my rating

cairo

2/26/2008
09:10:08

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If

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you honestly play thru all your games you putting in your personal database, I'm pretty convinced it would help you to increase your level of understanding of the game.
If I was you I would use an already existing database and play thru the games, in order to see and try to understand how stronger players play the games.
Take some games from strong masters in present and past times.

Best wishes
Cairo


cascadejames

2/26/2008
20:01:31

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Yes, but:

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I am in no position to disagree with a player as strong as Cairo, but I will say that I believe from
my own experiece that a player with your rating can probably improve his rating faster by
studying a book or two on tactics. It is good to spend some time on openings and strategy, but
most games at your level and mine are decided by tactical exchanges. Your mileage may vary.


djole73

2/27/2008
02:13:36

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i agree with previous post, "Chess is 99 percent tactics." - Teichmann. This is book for you: www.amazon.com . My daughter practice from this book and she improving rapidly.

tugger

2/27/2008
19:54:48

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i disagree... the best tactician in the world will lose if his opening is bad and his opponent is capable. i used the database here to learn my openings, and it helped my rating soar. opening knwoledge is essential if you wish to get above 1500.

of course, tactics are also important, but the problem with tactic books are that the positions rarely match, and when they do will you notice? the best way to improve tactics is simply to play against better players.


mathemagician_

2/28/2008
05:03:14

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I disagree. At the original poster's rating tactics is everything. A bishop being moved to d3 instead of c4 isn't going to make any difference when your opponent is leaving pieces vulnerable to forks, skewers etc.
And the best tactician in the world with no additional study of openings/end games would comfortably beat the majority of players.


ccmcacollister

2/28/2008
15:22:06

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a good database ....

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Should be worth several hundred Elo in strength, without playing tons of games to get there imo. If you put the good stuff in it. At least that is what i figure losing my own paper d-base of only hundreds of games at most , cost me at the time. Of course that is with a lot of sharp stuff that you have analysed ahead. And good TN's and quirky stuff you see from opponents, etc.
That is one kind of d-base tho. Another is to find a d-base you know your opponents will use (MCO in my day) then work it over with more and better analysis than others will put into it.
A third approach it getting the very best and latest GM games. Even as They have to do. And has certainly changed the nature of things when one good Improvement
can travel the globe so fast it may not be playable the second time the chance arises, without facing home analysis perhaps leading to a Draw, assuming the improvement really was one and sound etc.


lturner

2/28/2008
19:59:00

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Key to any database

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Garbage in Garbage out. Lin=mit what you put into any database to highest quality only and it will help. A lot of those "Megadatabase" items include many games from lower rated players who blunder in very few moves. They are worthless!

tugger

2/29/2008
11:04:25

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<<<A lot of those "Megadatabase" items include many games from lower rated players who blunder in very few moves.>>>

absolutely, which is exactly the reason i use the 1900+ database here... there are plenty enough games on it to be a fair reflection of average, and there are less blunders. even so, i always play a few more moves ahead to ensure i'm not walking into a trap. the database could say 90% white, but maybe the 10% black just saw the error and the rest didn't... i've made mistakes thanks to the database before, even though it seemed the move was in my favour.

<<<And the best tactician in the world with no additional study of openings/end games would comfortably beat the majority of players. >>>

maybe i was wrong. i recently lost a game to a 1700+ player, my equal despite my lower rating (many timeouts at the same time), and i outplayed him throughout the opening and into the middlegame. i made one mistake and the tables turned. he was better tactically, at least in this game. although it should be pointed out his opening was not bad, just inferior. a bad opening and i'd have torn him to shreds. so i'm not sure where i stand on this one. i could play kasparov, and if he decided to move his knight back and forth for the first ten moves, i'd have a good chance of beating him. or if a 1900 player, perhaps even 2000, made a significantly inferior opening to myself, i'd be confident of holding my advantage. of course, you cannot win with openings alone, what i'm trying to say is that a bad opening will leave you tactically stifled, so if you wish to improve your tactics, then improving openings is a must.


claespiper

3/01/2008
13:51:11

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Improving your game

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I agree that at your (and my level for that matter) tactics is a crucial part of your game. I can strongly recommend Yasser Seirawans book Winning Chess Tactics (www.amazon.com)
It improved my game dramatically. Then I can also recommend a site for practicing tactics: the Chess Tactics Server found at chess.emrald.net. If you are serious about improving your game through study, take a look at this page called the path to improvement (chessville.com).

Hope this can help you improve your game
/Claes




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