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abegtrup

10/17/2004
14:52:23

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Subject: Team Rivalry Tournament

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Each of the five rival teams will pick a single member to represent them for each rating pool.
Each rating pool will be a separate mini-tournament run on GK, consisting of a rating limit
range of 100 pts. Each pool, or division, will have only one player from each team, all
struggling to win their rating's division.

For example, the rating pool of 1451 - 1550, might consist of the following players:
PAWN STAR - carol45
NY LOVER - tetis
FLYING ZEBRA - emptyhead
NAVY LOSERS - jeffreydot
VB-FOUREX - bravesparrow

Each division will be run as a 5 player invitational mini-tournament on GK. The tournament
points scored by an individual will be added to his/her team's total. To make things absolutely
fair, to account for teams that cannot fill all of the pools, the final score will be averaged by
the number of pools participated in by a team.

Divisions with less than five players will have dummy players added that will timeout in all
matches (this will not affect player ratings - matches will be less than 3 moves).

Players can represent their team in more than one division. Playing in divisions above ones
rating is permissible. In instances where ratings are borderline, with discussion, they may be
allowed to play down one division as well. The rating pools at present are:

ELO Range
951 - 1050
1051 - 1150
1151 - 1250
1251 - 1350
1351 - 1450
1451 - 1550
1551 - 1650
1651 - 1750
1751 - 1850
1851 - 1950
1951 - 2050
2051 - 2150

Team Captains will have final say on all divisional representatives for their team.
For questions, please message tournament coordinator, abegtrup.

Good luck to all, in the upcoming
FIRST GK RIVALRY TEAM TOURNAMENT!!!


abegtrup

10/17/2004
14:55:31

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Pawn Star Roster

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Current as of post:

951 - 1050 n/a
1051 - 1150 rihank
1151 - 1250 thedollarstore (sub - rougeknight)
1251 - 1350 srpen
1351 - 1450 120kz
1451 - 1550 arikan (sub - tamer68)
1551 - 1650 dokesa
1651 - 1750 beardsleyx
1751 - 1850 leo_london (sub - gru88y)
1851 - 1950 apastpawn
1951 - 2050 abegtrup
2051 - 2150 n/a


abegtrup

10/17/2004
14:58:39

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VB-Fourex United Roster

Message:
Current as of post:

0951 - 1050 ozzeeguru
1051 - 1150 tdks
1151 - 1250 (pending cherelle)
1251 - 1350 tedb
1351 - 1450 rupert29
1451 - 1550 bravesparrow
1551 - 1650 n/a
1651 - 1750 n/a
1751 - 1850 n/a
1851 - 1950 n/a
1951 - 2050 n/a
2051 - 2150 n/a


jeffreydot

10/18/2004
02:33:14

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NAVY LOSERS

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This is what I propose. I havn't heard back from TWO (2) of them yet...but Im sure they wont mind....or...just decline. Let me know if any decline....I'll crack the whip!!


0951 - 1050 xabilly
1051 - 1150 itk2k
1151 - 1250 eminemz
1251 - 1350 leixeossc
1351 - 1450 jeffreydot [I'm sure you wont mind Im overrated anyway!]
1451 - 1550 jeffreydot
1551 - 1650 n/a
1651 - 1750 n/a
1751 - 1850 n/a
1851 - 1950 n/a
1951 - 2050 n/a
2051 - 2150 n/a




mariofgr

10/18/2004
09:45:30

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f

Message:
Es gribeetu piedaliities kas man jaaadara.
I would like to play what should i do


manhattan

10/18/2004
22:48:59

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new york lovers

Message:
at moment we got:

951 - 1050 hntress
1051 - 1150 bad_pad3
1151 - 1250 ogre
1251 - 1350 mr_vicblonde (i hope you dont mind)
1351 - 1450 ajb1955 (or jimmydean)
1451 - 1550 manhattan (or bloody or neigemahn)
1551 - 1650 grisha
1651 - 1750 mariofgr
1751 - 1850 andzza ( he is a little overrated i think at moment)
1851 - 1950
1951 - 2050
2051 - 2150

Janis


odonata

10/19/2004
03:31:27

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Flying Zebra's

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Ok for the moment I've got (can still change):

ELO Range
951 - 1050
1051 - 1150 lamjam
1151 - 1250
1251 - 1350 Koenvhoof (pending, request to join sent to him)
1351 - 1450 Oldxaco-boy (has first to finish current mini-tourn.)
1451 - 1550 Emptyhead
1551 - 1650 Thrainn
1651 - 1750 Cipo (has first to finish current mini-tourn.)
1751 - 1850 Odonata
1851 - 1950 Noesis
1951 - 2150 Diamondfortyone (*on vacation now, so pending, he's only in if he wants to join)

I launch also a call to good behaviour & sportmanship to all contestants (I've experienced in the past that some of us take the "rivalry" a little bit to serious..., it's just a game! :-))

Cheers,
Odonata


srpen

10/19/2004
08:34:22

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1250-1350 age group

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Ok I've invited tedb (VB Fourex). leixoessc (Losers) seems to have too many games right now so the invitation bounced. Let me know if I'm supposed to invite Koenvhoof (Zebras)... even though he is just a tad bit out of our age group, right at the present moment anyway...
srpen (PAWN STARS)


abegtrup

10/19/2004
11:43:27

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New Team Enters the Fray!

Message:
With slots availble in some of the divisions, we are entertaining a SIXTH team. They have
been given interim rivalry status by Captain xena.

Everyone please welcome Blue Moon Rising!


chrisp

10/19/2004
12:40:09

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Many thanks

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to all concerned for considering us a an interim rival, and I hope we can add to the excitement of the event.

This is the best thing to happen in team chess on GK since I've been playing here, so let's make it a great success and maybe start a trebd for such events.

Once again, my thanks to all concerned, especially Xena and Abegtrup.

I'll have a list of players available soon - the team seem to be very interested in taking part, so hopefully can fill in the gaps you currently have in some sections.

Thanks
chrisp


odonata

10/20/2004
00:27:05

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About the 1250-1350 group

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Ok Srpen, for Koenvhoof it's ok to enter the 1250-1350 group. It's possible that he has reached the max. number of mini-tourn. But as soon as it's possible you add him!



odonata

10/20/2004
01:50:28

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Let's look for a Rival #7!

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Mini-tournaments with only 6 players aren't possible, and to avoid the dummy-stuff, I propose to look for a 7th team! Shouldn't be too hard, not? Any suggestions?

manhattan

10/20/2004
02:06:34

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well

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i think its started now with 5, lets do more teams in next round.

at first we need to see how its goin this time.

Janis


abegtrup

10/20/2004
10:15:08

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Message:
We're still doing mini-tournaments with 5 players.

The only problem is some of the teams are either top or bottom heavy, leaving 5 or 6 straight
divisions unmanned. We have invited the Blue Moon Rising (BMR) team to help fill some of
those gaps, so we don't have to fuss with dummy players.

They should be able to present up to eight players, which is actually more than some of the
original teams.

As it is, bringing in yet a 7th team, is still a strong possibility. I was going to wait until after
we had the BMR roster, so I would know what we could offer. If anyone has suggestions, I
know we will still have room available in the divisions 1550 and up, even with the BMR help.
That would allow a team to enter with at least six players...


abegtrup

10/20/2004
10:19:51

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add divisions 1151-1250 & 951-1050 to the list

Message:
So let's make it official:
WE ARE RECRUITING FOR A 7th RIVALRY TEAM

who can fill the following 8 divisions with one eligible player:
700 - 1050
1151 - 1250
1551 - 1650
1651 - 1750
1751 - 1850
1851 - 1950
1951 - 2050
2051 - 2150


apastpawn

10/20/2004
22:32:47

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Suggestion

Message:
Could any one of the teams involved enter more than one player in a division to fill it out? Can the math be done? That way we could keep it to the true rivalry theme. Not that I mind Blue Moon's entering the chorus.

Are the Pawn Stars the only team with rivals cause we are such a lovable bunch?


arikan

10/21/2004
01:36:36

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1451-1550 Division

Message:
all the invitations are accepted and the games have started..
if you're interested you can find it right here:

gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5044

i'm up against manhattan from NY Lovers, wolsky from BMR, Navy Loser jeffreydot and bravesparrow from VB-4X Utd.

good luck to the other Pawn Stars.

arikan (a.k.a. the 2nd most boring forum poster)


odonata

10/21/2004
07:15:43

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Abegtrup,

Message:
Diamondfortyone is in for the expert section, he still has a vacation flag for a few more days, but afterwards he can be invited.

abegtrup

10/21/2004
07:56:49

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Empty Slots

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Mike, GK's admin, has written to me to say he will take care of any empty slots. He's going to
set the mini-tournaments to display winners, even without a full roster, and afterwards, he'll
delete the tournaments, so they won't take up players slots.

For future tournaments, this will make things much easier.
Simply invite as many teams as desired; pick a suitably
large (or larger) mini-tournament size, and just do not worry
about trying to fill up all the empty slots.


abegtrup

10/21/2004
07:59:10

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odonata...

Message:
I haven't forgotten about diamondfortyone. He will have a spot. It does look however as
though I have inadvertingly given away emptyhead's slot. My sincerest apologies.


manhattan

10/21/2004
23:22:17

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abegtrup

Message:
why all new your lovers i gave are not invited to play?

and why odonatas team is not represented in our mt?

Janis


abegtrup

10/22/2004
01:05:40

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manhattan

Message:
Of your twelve (12) players/divisions,
Seven (7) have already been successfully invited;
Three (3) of the divisions have not yet be started;
And at least one (1+) still has to finish up games to become eligible;

odonata's team isn't represented in your one (1) division, because the player wasn't eligble at
the time it was started, and a Blue Moon Rising player was accidently placed in the
tournament instead. It only happened in the one division - it was an innocent mistake.

Remember, this is the first time this has been tried. It's a work in progress...


abegtrup

10/22/2004
01:11:10

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P.S.

Message:
That same individual who was accidently bumped from his division was placed in the next
higher division, in which his rating was more appropriate anyway, and is very happy. Your
division, manhattan, still has five rival teams in it to compete against each other. So, no harm
done.


abegtrup

10/22/2004
01:19:06

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Out of the possible 12 divisions...

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At present, I have the following slated for competition:

Team...........# of combatants
Pawn Stars..........11
NY Lovers...........12
Flying Zebras........8
Navy Losers.........5
VB-Fourex............5
Blue Moon............9


abegtrup

10/22/2004
20:14:22

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1st Rivalry Tournament - 6 Teams, 12 Divisions!!!

Message:
Thank you to everyone who helped make this possible!

Division References:
951 - 1050 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5064
1051 - 1150 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5043
1151 - 1250 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5082
1251 - 1350 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5036
1351 - 1450 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5067
1451 - 1550 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5044
1551 - 1650 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5012
1651 - 1750 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5035
1751 - 1850 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5063
1851 - 1950 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5022
1951 - 2050 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5056
2051 - 2150 gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5077


abegtrup

10/22/2004
20:22:20

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P.S.

Message:
Some of the divisions are still waiting for participants to become eligible,
so don't worry about empty spaces...

In addition, team captains have asked if alternate pools might be started in some of the more
populated divisions. Those links will be displayed later if they are inacted. Captains, please
send alternate participant rosters to me directly. Players can also contact me directly.

- abegtrup


abegtrup

10/22/2004
20:54:20

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Notes for future TEAM RIVAL TOURNAMENTS

Message:
For those interested in starting future team tournaments:

1) Only premium members can start a mini-tournament (division), so make sure there is at
least one per division of play.

1a) When having players start divisonal pools, send an exhaustive instructional message,
explaining every detail of the mini-tournament setup, i.e. time constraints, rating limits, title,
description, etc. The more they can cut and paste, the less they can accidently mess up.

2) Do not worry about picking too large a mini-tourney size. Mike, (GK admin) will take care
of extra space, when brought to his attention (gameknot.com/contact.pl).

3) Set mini-tournament rating ranges at least 50 points higher and lower than divison range.
This will allow for fluctuations in participants ratings as the pools are started up (which takes
longer than you think). It also allows for players to play up (or down) to fill a space for their
team in the tourney.

4) Try to pick teams that can fill at least 6 or 7 divisions. Players can become unexpectably
uneligilbe, and you want to have at least five divisions represented by a team to make for a
good showing and fair judging, since team scores are averaged by number of divisions played
in.

5) Look for teams that might help complement each other; ex. if you have a team very heavy
in low ratings only, find another team heavy in high ratings. Two teams help fill out one
potential slot in all the divisions. (It's no fun to be the winner of the 1000- or 2000+ divisions
if there isn't anyone in your division with you!)

6) Enlist help of captains to coordinate rosters with eligble players. Eligibility means they have
game availability, are not in too many mini-tournaments, are not currently on vacation, and fit
the divisional rating range (some players' ratings may not be accurate at time of start, and
most captains know their players very well). Also, let the captains make the hard decisions as
to who gets to play and who doesn't from their team! ;)

7) Start a forum page that explains how the tournament is going to work. This is for team
captains to be able to refer to, as well as refer their team players to.

8) Learn to use Excel and build a quick spreadsheet. Keep track of all the potential divisional
participants and their current status, (that includes team alternates for a division - very
important to have.) Everyone's going to be asking you all the questions, and it makes it a
whole heck of a lot easier when you got them written down.

Good luck - have fun! =)


apastpawn

10/22/2004
20:54:27

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A BIG THANKS

Message:
to abegtrup for all the time and hard work putting together the first GK Team Rivalry Tournament.

Good Luck to all participants and teams.


rupert29

10/29/2004
06:21:05

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Another player

Message:
G'day, g'day,

We have another player for the Rivals Tourny, x_vance_x

Can he slot in somewhere or has he missed the boat? Please let me know so I can let him know.

And I'll also give abegtrup a big ol' slap on the back for coming up with a great idea and working so hard to implement the first "Rivalry Tourny".

I'll drink to that..... gulp gulp ...... mmmmm....... VB........

Rupert the squirrel without a suit - AGAIN!

.... who stole it.....


odonata

11/06/2004
06:07:10

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Rupert,

Message:
I've added Gru88y (Pawn Stars) to my group, as promised I would then take a look at x_vance_x , but (as expected), his rating has grown out our category. So I think you'd better let him sign up in one of the stronger divisions. I'm sure Abegtrup will help with that one!
Good luck to all!



apastpawn

11/07/2004
12:07:14

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We'll take the misfit!

Message:
Seems he is leveling off and is appropriate for the next highest division, 1850-1950.
Also we do not have a VB player among our group. Vance is welcomed to join.

Just okay it with the tourney coordinator if needed and get back to me.

Speaking of the dude, has anyone heard from him? Check all the geisha bars and baths and tell him to get online. They do have the web there.


abegtrup

11/12/2004
10:35:15

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Message:
Yeah, yeah... I'm back, trying to sleep off a hangov... er, jet-lag.
I don't care who goes where. Just try to keep it one player per team in a division.

I'll check up on all the division/stats in a few more hours and make sure everything's in
honkey-dorey shape. Rupert, got all your requests, I'll take care of it.

- A


chrisp

12/13/2004
12:06:16

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Apologies

Message:
to everyone involved in this tournament, especially players in the 1851-1950 section.

Unfortunately, prassitzky , a member of Blue Moon Rising has now left Gk altogether for various non chess related reasons.

My apologies to all of his opponents in this section and to the organisers of the whole event.

Thanks
chrisp
Blue Moon Rising


abegtrup

12/24/2004
15:15:30

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And so it begins...

Message:
The Team Rivalry Tournament is at full steam...
And we have the first set of divisional results!

[1251-1350 Division] gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5036
Winners:
1st place: mr_vicblonde (5 pts.) New York Lovers
2nd place: torbalan (tie) (2 pts.) Blue Moon Rising
2nd place: koenvhoof (tie) (2 pts.) Flying Zebras

Thanks to all for making this a reality!
abegtrup (Tournament Director)


punkusmartyrus

12/24/2004
17:40:08

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confused and intrigued

Message:
Am I too late? when's the next one? how can I play or apply?

odonata

12/27/2004
07:24:57

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You can check it out on our teamwebsite

Message:
punkusmartyrus, if you like to see the tournament tables: you can have a look at: www.flying-zebras.info

abegtrup

1/03/2005
06:19:10

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[1451-1550 Division] Results

Message:
[1451-1550 Division] gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5044
Winners:
1st place: wolsky (5 pts.) Blue Moon Rising
2nd place: manhattan (3 pts.) New York Lovers
3rd place: arikan (1 pt.) Pawn Stars

Congrats to all!


abegtrup

1/18/2005
14:43:21

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[1051-1150 Division] Results

Message:
Play chess online, free online chess games.
[1051-1150 Division] gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5043

Winners:
1st place: tdks (5 pts.) Team: VB-Fourex United
2nd place: lamjam (3 pts.) Team: Flying Zebras
3rd place: rihannk (1 pt.) Team: The Pawn Stars


abegtrup

1/22/2005
07:49:51

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[1951-2050 Division] Results

Message:
[1951-2050 Division] gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5056

Winners:
1st place: abegtrup Team: The Pawn Stars
2nd place: werwolf Team: New York Lovers


abegtrup

1/30/2005
00:07:06

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[2051-2150 Division] Results

Message:
[2051-2150 Division] gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5077

Winners:
1st place: chrisp Team: Blue Moon Rising
2nd place: diamondfortyone Team: Flying Zebras
3rd place: kskcolle Team: New York Lovers


abegtrup

2/13/2005
11:24:38

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[1850-1950 Division] Results

Message:
[1850-1950 Division] gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5022

Winners:
1st place: apastpawn Team: The Pawn Stars
2nd place: x_vance_x Team: VB-Fourex United
3rd place: noesis Team: Flying Zebras


abegtrup

2/13/2005
11:42:31

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Half Way Point

Message:
6 of 12 Divisions Completed!

Running totals:

Blue Moon Rising :: 3
(out of 4 entered & completed divisions) have 12 points :: 12/4 = 3

The Pawn Stars :: 2.4
(out of 5 entered & completed divisions) have 12 points :: 12/5 = 2.4

Flying Zebras :: 2.25
(out of 4 entered & completed divisions) have 09 points :: 09/4 = 2.25

New York Lovers :: 2
(out of 6 entered & completed divisions) have 12 points :: 12/6 = 2

VB-Fourex United :: 2
(out of 4 entered & completed divisions) have 08 points :: 08/4 = 2

Navy Losers :: 0
(out of 2 entered & completed divisions) have 00 points :: 00/2 = 0


abegtrup

3/07/2005
22:51:21

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[951-1050 Division] Results

Message:
[951-1050 Division] gameknot.com/mt.pl?id=5064

Winners:
1st place: mrrj04 (5 pts.) Team: Blue Moon Rising
2nd place: xabilly (2 pts.) (tie) Team: Navy Losers
2nd place: crazyasian719 (2 pts.) (tie) Team: Dangerous Toys


li_wei_sheng

3/10/2005
22:40:12

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How interesting this concept is!

Message:
Next time invite "Team for Everybody" to compete in the next round.
Mail captain chessder
li_wei_sheng for 1450-1550 please!


b_irie

3/17/2005
07:06:21

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www.flying-zebras.info

Message:
odonata,

your team's website is awesome! the section on this Team Rivalry Tournament is particularly well-laid-out. Everyone should go check it out, so they can see which team is leading it all! :-P Good work,

Jeff b_irie
Blue Moon Rising


abegtrup

4/04/2005
16:20:12

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[1551-1650 Division] Results

Message:
[1551-1650 Division] -> gameknot.com

Winners:
1st place: grisha (5 pts.) Team: New York Lovers
2nd place: fmunit (3 pts.) Team: Blue Moon Rising
3rd place: judge (1 pt.) Team: VB-Fourex United



abegtrup

4/10/2005
14:23:43

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[1751-1850 Division] Results

Message:
[1751-1850 Division] -> gameknot.com

Winners:
1st place: odonata (5 pts.) Team: Flying Zebras
2nd place: gru88y (3 pts.) Team: The Pawn Stars
3rd place: nemesi (0.5 pts.) (tie) Team: New York Lovers
3rd place: oglog1 (0.5 pts.) (tie) Team: Dangerous Toys


abegtrup

5/06/2005
08:46:15

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[1651-1750 Division] Results

Message:
[1651-1750 Division] -> gameknot.com

Winners:
1st place: cipo (5 pts.) Team: Flying Zebras
2nd place: mariofgr (3 pts.) Team: New York Lovers
3rd place: tonyh (1 pts.) Team: Blue Moon Rising

Two divisions remain, with a race for first and a race for third!!!


abegtrup

5/25/2005
22:32:02

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[1151-1250 Division] Results

Message:
[1151-1250 Division] -> gameknot.com

Winners:
1st place: rogueknight (5 pts.) Team: The Pawn Stars
2nd place: ogre (3 pts.) Team: New York Lovers
3rd place: denardtill (1 pts.) Team: Blue Moon Rising

We have a tie for first, and a tie for third, with only one division left to go - and truly, it's
anybody's tournament!




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