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mercury_whyte

9/15/2003
08:26:27

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Subject: The English Defence page 12

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Here's page 12 team mates! Use page 11 until it is full as usual...

Regards, mercury_whyte


leedavis

9/16/2003
01:36:27

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New Homepage

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gameknot.com/fmsg/chess5/1266.shtml

malkavian

9/16/2003
16:29:06

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....

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Well done Skipper for the challenges sent, but for the three of them only one was accepted, isnt it?
about the tourny I think it's tough to play a game with a player rated 2100, or stg like that.
Malk


mercury_whyte

9/17/2003
02:23:26

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More challenges...

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I have had a couple of messages from other captains wishing to negotiate challenges, so I will pursue those...
Sorry I've not been around much, pressure of work again I am afraid, but I will organise three more challenges this evening. Only 1 out of 3 accepted last time but these things happen, maybe I'll have better fortunes tonight.
I will update the address of our forum page on the team homepage too.

Will post again this evening with some challenge news! Regards for now... mercury_whyte


mercury_whyte

9/17/2003
10:26:12

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17th September Update

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Hi there chaps, I hope everyone is well...
Three new outgoing challenges to summarise here; The first two were negotiated in advance with a few messages, so are fairly likely to be accepted, the third is a flyer to an old friend of ours, so maybe with luck new games will begin soon!

1) A 7 player challenge to the Russian Time team, consisting of these players;
cavturbo
tonyh
sb123456789
mercury_whyte
anathema
malkavian
banglaman

2) A 4 player challenge to the -For USSR- team, consisting of the following comrades (in arms);
tonyh
sb123456789
mercury_whyte
darrenmcniff

3) An 8 player challenge to the Golbal Bounty Hunters team, involving the following posse;
cavturbo
sb123456789
anathema
malkavian
markas
icantwrite
izs26
banglaman

Best of luck to everyone about to place his pieces for new games! I'll check out the challenge situation again tomorrow, remember if anyone is needing more games just give me the word!

Regards to all, mercury_whyte


mercury_whyte

9/19/2003
09:42:24

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19th Septemeber Update

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Welcoming sableus to the team, our newest recruit!
Well done everyone, our score is stretching into the high sixties...I won't be putting myself forward for any more team games for a while, as my form is truly atrocious. I'll carry on administating as best I can and rely on you chaps to carry me onward to glory!

My challenge to the Global Bounty Hunters is still outstanding, perhaps it will be accepted this weekend. I have sent out a couple more small challenges to supplement it in the meantime...

1) A 4 player challenge to the Chess Addicts team;
anathema
markas
icantwrite
banglaman

2) A 3 player challenge to the Queen Swap team;
malkavian
fatrat
sableus (first games!)

I hope these will happen in due course. Anyone playing too many/too few games right now please post or send me a message and I'll make due note!

Best of luck and have a good weekend chaps...

Regards, Mercury Whyte


parrvert

9/20/2003
05:28:04

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malkavian

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I know it's tough to play against higher rated players but only one or two of your opponents would be over 2000, most would be between 1200 and 1600.

I will look at finalising the tournament details tonight or tomorrow.

I see the team score is +70, keep up the good work!


malkavian

9/20/2003
06:42:41

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thanks parrvert

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it's tough to organize a tournament with so many different ratings but u've done a good job, I trust this will be done the best way for all =)
Keep the good work, +70, the higher ever isnt it? still not enough ;)
Malk


parrvert

9/20/2003
12:47:43

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Team Tournament 2

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The second English Defence Team Tournament will start soon.

To keep the total number of games at a manageable number and to cater for the different preferences of time control the tournament has been split into two groups:

GROUP A

Time Control: 3 days/move

Archbold64
Parrvert
Tonyh
Stanc
Anathema
Malkavian
Icantwrite
Fatrat
Mkkid
Banglaman


GROUP B

Time Control: 5 days/move

Tkdman
Cavturbo
Biggie
Sb123456789
Sacrifice
Cooter
Lesvillain
Mercury_whyte
Markas
Izs26

The groups were decided by the preferences you expressed to me regarding time control, the players who gave no preference were put into the groups by their ratings.

Players will play every other player in their group twice, once as white, once as black.

All notices of when games should start (games to be played here on gameknot) will be posted in the team forum.

Good luck!

Chris


mercury_whyte

9/23/2003
02:16:42

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Very proud of the team...

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Well done everyone, the team has performed brilliantly over the last few days! I should mention some players by name and I will later, but for now congratulations on a fantastic effort...

The new tournament is looking very interesting parrvert, I'm looking forward to it, very well done!

A whole new set of challenges will be sent this evening, hopefully new games will begin soon for everyone who wants them.

Regards for now, will post again soon...

mercury_whyte


banglaman

9/23/2003
03:20:22

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Well done team !

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I too would like to congratulate team mates. My own performance has slipped recently, fortunately the team has performed fantastically , and this has inspired me to do better, and be more focused in my games. Special Mention to Malkavian who seems to have stormed to second place from no-where well done team mate. Keep up thr good work lads.

Also thanks Parvert for your work on the forthcoming tournament, I am very much looking forward to it, even though looking at the group it looks like I'm going to take a hiding.

Best regards to all, and good luck with your games

Banglaman


mercury_whyte

9/23/2003
10:42:08

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23rd September Update

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Greetings everyone, I have sent out three new challenges for those in need of games...

1) A 4 player challenge to the Knights of the 65th Square team, involving the following quartet;
tonyh
1830
markas
banglaman

2) A 7 player challenge to the Silman Team, involving the following heptet (?)
cavturbo
grobler
sb123456789
stellaknight
cooter
malkavian
mkkid

3) A 9 player challenge to Yeshua's Servants team, involving the following septet (??)
tonyh
sb123456789
markas
icantwrite
sableus
fatrat
izs26
darrenmcniff
owenelbuho

(A brief note on this one; I have said to the captain of the opposing team we will accept a rating variation upto +/-200 if the challenge as a whole is well balanced. This makes it easier for him to select opponents, but some players may end up with tough games...I know everyone will do their best!)

Finally a little yearning that struck me as I was penning this...Wouldn't it be nice if you could change the colour of the 'Black' pieces on any given board so they appeared red, like the chess pieces in Alice through the Looking Glass...
It would just make an interesting visual diversion I think.

Best regards to all, keep on winning chaps!!

mercury_whyte


parrvert

9/23/2003
11:20:18

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Tournament

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Just to explain how the tournament will work:

The games will not all start at once, I will post here when games should start, I will aim to avoid giving players too many games at once. One player will have to send a challenge to the other to get the game started. I will put results and standings up on this website:

www.geocities.com/englishdefence

When a page is set up for the new tournament (hopefully this weekend) the tournament can begin.



icantwrite

9/23/2003
17:45:52

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Well done and i'm sorry...

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I just want to apologise for letting the side down. We
are doing really well, but i appear to be doing very
badly in my games. I am trying hard, but i just don't
seem to be doing very well. Well done everybody else
though. I look forward to playing some of you in the
upcoming tournament (if you'll still have me that is!)


malkavian

9/23/2003
21:38:24

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lets keep the work

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Hey chaps!
dont let the ranting get right through the head, we are doing good, but we're slowing down a little bit. dont let ourself carry away, we have to keep on going. Thanks Banglaman for the message, im looking forwar for our second tourney together ;)
Malk

PS. Captain, may I have some more games?? =)


malkavian

9/23/2003
21:43:25

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I forgot

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Not only the players at the top are the ones pushing, also, the players on the button are pushing aswell when they win and the negatives numbers seems to get lower =)
Icantwirite, dont worry we're all doing our best effort, I'm sure you'll do great the next games, it seems you've got your fist win ;)
Malk


biggie

9/24/2003
03:19:44

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Team tournament

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Not sure I understand what's going on. Well, I'm sure, I don't understand what's going on. Well, I'm running short of games again...

banglaman

9/24/2003
05:40:53

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More games

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Captain I too would like more games. As I have already mentioned, I would like to be included in as many challenges as possible, as I currently have a lot of free time. Sad I know.

Regards

Banglaman


icantwrite

9/24/2003
08:25:37

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That win certainly did lift my spirits i must say :-)

mercury_whyte

9/24/2003
09:30:45

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More challenges...

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Well done parrvert, clearly a lot of work has gone into this new tournament on your part and it's looking very interesting...

Don't lose heart icantwrite, sometimes you get drawn against pretty tough opponents, as we all do playing for this team. In the past month I think we have had about 3 incoming challenges (where I get to select the rating variations) and I must have sent out 30 or 40 challenges, placing us at the mercy of other captains.
Most do their best to reply with balanced opposition but inevitably some are tougher than others. I know that several of you are involved in a challenge I sent to the Silman team, and you are drawn against players rated 200-300 above you. These will be difficult games but they are a chance to learn a little perhaps, even if our team score suffers a bit in the short term. I know you'll all give each game your best efforts.

All three of the challenges I sent out last night have been accepted, and at the request of various players I have whipped up a few more. I was waiting for you to get in touch biggie, now I know you're hungry for more games I will include you in the next few challenges...

1) A 3 player challenge to the Knights of the Coffee Table team, involving these three characters;
malkavian
markas
banglaman

2) Another 3 player one, this time to the Slo Dogs team, involving these players;
malkavian
fatrat
banglaman

3) A 4 player challenge to the Older Generation team, involving the following chaps;
biggie
malkavian
markas
banglaman

I hope new games flow soon from these challenges!

Regards for now... mercury_whyte


sableus

9/25/2003
13:43:16

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More games too

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Please add me to a couple of challenges too!

Thanks.


mercury_whyte

9/26/2003
07:51:35

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Quick message...

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Keep up the great work everyone, I usually set up three challenges on a Friday evening but I have to rush off today, so I will send out three fresh challenges on Saturday morning instead!
OK sableus, I will include you in the new challenges, along with biggie and anyone else who wants som more games...
Leave a message here tonight if you do (or send me a private message) and I will oblige.

Regards for now, id-mercury_whyte


banglaman

9/26/2003
08:20:32

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More games

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Captain I would like more games please if possible.

Thanks in advance


malkavian

9/27/2003
00:28:03

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good work

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thanks for the games mercury_whyte.
I know the efford you have to do to get them.
Malk


mercury_whyte

9/27/2003
00:29:17

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27th September Update

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The team score marches on, into the 70's now, brilliant work by malkavian and several others...
Keep it up chaps!

Two chilly mornings and I've got a rotten cold. Serves me right for being a soft Southerner I suppose. Never mind, here are a few more sent challenges to keep you busy mates...

1) A 3 player challenge to the Belgian Lions team, involving the following players;
cavturbo
biggie
sb123456789

2) A 3 player challenge to Wedabest, involving the following team-members;
malkavian
sableus
izs26

3) A 3 player challenge to the Chess Addicts team, involving the following chaps;
markas
icantwrite
banglaman

Our luck has been fairly good recently when it comes to challenges being accepted so hopefully these will be too...

Regards for now, keep flying the flag!

mercury_whyte


malkavian

9/27/2003
21:22:29

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well done!

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We are doing so well lately, I want to name biggie archbold64 and leedavis to name a few. They've also done a great job.

We're +78!!!
ehhhhhh mini-party!!!!!!!

Malk


parrvert

9/28/2003
14:20:01

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2nd Team Tournament

Message:
These games can now start:

The player on the left plays white, one player must send a challenge to the other, it doesn't matter which.

All games should be public.

GROUP A

Time Control: 3 days/move

Please start the game title with "EDTT2A" followed by anything you like. (or nothing at all)

tonyh v anathema
icantwrite v mkkid
parrvert v stanc
malkavian v fatrat
banglaman v archbold64


GROUP B

Time Control: 5 days/move

Please start the game title with "EDTT2B" followed by anything you like. (or nothing at all)

biggie v sacrifice
lesvillain v markas
cavturbo v sb123456789
cooter v mercury_whyte
izs26 v tkdman


More games to start soon!


icantwrite

9/28/2003
18:13:31

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Margins in a message...

Message:
Can anyone tell me why the sentences in my
messages don't seem to be going to the end of each
line? Can i change the margins or anything?


mercury_whyte

9/29/2003
10:42:35

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30th September Update

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It's good to see the seconf tournament getting underway! Top work parrvert, and top work 1830 as well! I neglected to mention your fantastic form last time I posted...If you want any more games team-mate, just let me know...

Can't help you with the margins question icantwrite, I'm not very technically minded. One of the chaps will know about it I expect.

I'm still suffering with this damned cold, had a miserable day at work today, but I've managed to rustle up a few more challenges;

1) An already accepted challenge to the Knights of the 65th Square team, involving the following players;
vexxed (welcome back!)
malkavian
knighthawk

2) A renegotiated challenge to the chess addicts team (I had to withdraw the first one) involving the following;
tonyh
icantwrite
izs26

3) A 5 player challenge to the ---For USSR--- team in response to a message, involving these players;
sb123456789
id=vexxed
markas
sableus
izs26

4) A 3 player challenge to the Rollin' Stoned team, involving the following players;
malkavian
banglaman
owenelbuho

That should keep a few people busy - assuming these are accepted of course. Another step forward for our score gentlemen, do we dare to hope the magiacal +100 is only a few weeks away? I tempt providence...

Regards for now, keep battling!

mercury_whyte



malkavian

9/29/2003
11:24:26

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a little problem parrvert

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I've just challenged fatrat but he appear with too many active games ..... so???????
Malk


parrvert

9/29/2003
13:21:40

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malkavian

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A good organiser always thinks ahead! So, er... um...

I guess you'll have to wait for his number of games to go down, unless he buys a membership. I'll send him a message.


1830

9/30/2003
03:06:08

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more games please

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Ok captain Im back now so if you could please include me in as many challenges as is possible please. Well played Malk it would appear as I had predicted my reign at the top would be short lived keep it up team mate onwards and upwards we cant slow down now because all the teams around us are gaining points also.Good work everyone

leedavis

9/30/2003
03:57:11

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Ay Captain!!!!

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I'm running low on games now so you can mark me down!

stanc

9/30/2003
09:04:45

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More games for me please Skip

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Is there a trend developing here ? Can you please put me back on the "Available to play" list for a few more games.
Thanks Captain !!


malkavian

9/30/2003
12:35:19

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Alrite Parrvert

Message:
haha, I'll wait until fatrat send me the challenge, I cant do anything else.
keep the good work chaps

PS. Captain I know I had lots of games but still, dont forget about me, I'm a fast player =)


1830

10/01/2003
04:23:53

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Malkavian

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One more game and the lead role is yours malk keep it up team mate but beware I have more time to play now so we can have our own in team competition either way the team will benefit. Unfortunately I have a couple of losses coming my way so the lead will be yours but for how long? Good luck.
P.S. Captain I really really could do with a hatfull of games if im to fight off Malk lol.All healthy competition.


leedavis

10/01/2003
07:55:54

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please sir, can i have some more

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I'm starting to get really itchy for more games. Please send me some!!!!!!!!!!!!

mercury_whyte

10/01/2003
09:26:32

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A Hungry Bunch...

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OK fellers, I have done my best to cook up a few challenges for you!

1) An Incoming challenge from the Just Do It team, gratefully accepted with the following 6 players;
tonyh
sb123456789
leedavis
stanc
1830
markas
Most of our 'Big Guns' involved in that one, best of luck chaps!

2) A 3 player challenge sent to Kumpan's Chessworld of Peace, involving this immortal triad;
tkdman
leedavis
stanc

3) Another 3 player challenge, this one to the Beer Drinkers' Team (great name!) Involving the following players;
1830
icantwrite
izs26

4) A 5 player challenge to the Quickies team, involving the following team members;
leedavis
1830
malkavian
banglaman
markas

1) is already up and running, with good fortune 2), 3) and 4) will follow...

Keep battling chaps, we are doing very well to break into the top 30. until next time Best Regards...
mercury_whyte


mercury_whyte

10/01/2003
10:25:03

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Revision...

Message:
To my challenge to the Quickies team. In order for the challenge to be more acceptable to my opposite number I dropped malkavian and markas from the line-up and put in owenelbuho. Revised line up for this challenge now reads as follows;
leedavis
1830
banglaman
owenelbuho

Apologies to markas and especially to malkavian, I realise this was the only one of the latest batch of challenges you were included in!
I promise to put you in for at least two challenges tomorrow team-mate...

Anyone else hungry for games just let me know!

Regards for now, mercury_whyte


parrvert

10/01/2003
15:05:33

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1st Team tournament

Message:
Games to start:

(title = "ENG DEF", time control = 5 days/move")

tkdman v mercury_whyte

tkdman v markas

cooter v dutchgrasseii


parrvert

10/01/2003
15:09:24

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2nd Team Tournament - Group A

Message:
Games to start:

(title = "EDTT2A", time control = 3 days/move)

Archbold64 v Malkavian
Fatrat v Tonyh
Anathema v Banglaman
Icantwrite v Parrvert
Mkkid v Stanc



malkavian

10/01/2003
19:21:57

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haha

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well i'm still waiting for fatrat, lets hope he finish some games soon. (well organized parrvert)
i'll have the thoughest game of my life (i'm playing archbold64) im cooked!
on the other hand... late team mate 1830, the first place is now mine, LOL, but im sure we'll keep a good challenge at the top of the table and it'll benefit a lot the team.

So mercury_whyte, i need more challenge too cuz we're starting a good racing here =)
lets see who gets first to the 100 points 1830 ;)

cheers team mates!,
Malk


banglaman

10/02/2003
03:03:29

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Wow

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92 points, I can't believe it. Malkavian what drugs are you on and can I have some please :-). Well done team-mate and everybody else keep battling.
Thanks for the games captain.

regards

banglaman


1830

10/02/2003
08:33:08

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more games please

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Keep the games coming captain still room for plenty more. Well done Malk I dont know whether I can match you though for speed of games but we will keep it interesting.

mercury_whyte

10/02/2003
09:28:34

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More games

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Three more challenges sent this evening, involving the following players;

1) 2 player challenge to the Riders of Rohan team;
1830
markas

2) 3 player challenge to the Spanish Wolves team;
leedavis
stanc
1830

3) 4 player challenge to the Nemesis team;
tonyh
sb123456789
stanc
1830

Good luck to those taking part in these new games (if they are accepted of course)...I am setting up Forum page 13 now as this page is nearly full, but the link from our team Homepage will not be updated until this page has it's 50 messages.

Regards for now, mercury_whyte


1830

10/03/2003
03:20:10

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tough game captain

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Tough matches Captain I'll do my best

banglaman

10/03/2003
04:54:55

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help

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does anyone know how some players are able to make moves even though according to their profile they last logged in several hours ago?

this has happened several times and I'm just curious as to how this is possible.

regards

banglaman


mercury_whyte

10/03/2003
05:17:08

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Concerning the team score...

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You'll have to accept my apologies 1830 (and anyone else involved) if some of our opposing captains have selected tough opponents for you to play. I know you'll give each game your best shot and I'm not expecting miracles.
Without checking out the games I won't comment on the relative fairness of these newly accepted challenges, but I must now raise a question on the subject of fairness.

Recently our team score has increased at a growing pace, moving us closer to the top of the table. At first glance this is a cause for celebration and pride in our achievement, but I am sorry to say I believe everything is not quite as it seems.

Over the last few weeks malkavian, one of our most enthusiastic and fast-playing team members, has been on an unbroken winning streak which has helped to carry our team towards +100 points and has carred him to the top of our internal players list.

I could not help noticing after a while that, although he was winning a large number of games for the team, malkavian's personal rating was not going up very much. Out of curiosity I visited his profile page and looked at the completed games list. I found that, at regular intervals, malkavian had been losing games against players with ratings of around 800, more than 400 points below his own rating. These games were always resigned after three moves, and on the four games that I examined the moves made were Pawn H3, H4, H5 then resignation.

The effect of these resigned games is to take malkavian's rating down by 16 points per game. The only reason I can think of to do this is to distort the personal rating to an arteficially low level compared to the player's true ability.

Until yesterday I was unaware that this was happening. I have been including malkavian in challenges to other teams in good faith, requesting that opposing captains match ratings as closely as possible (in his case, mid to upper 1300's). I now believe malkavian's true ability would warrant a GameKnot rating between 1600 and 1700.

I do not know what malkavian's motivation is for this action. It may be a genuine desire to help the team succeed. It is even possible that there is a good explaination for these resigned games which I have overlooked. The consequence however is that many of our recent challenges to other teams have been less than completely honest, and some of our points have been earned in a less than fair and transparent way.

I have contacted malkavian privately on this matter but we seem to have had trouble getting personal messages through. I have received two other messages on this subject (one from another member of this team, another from the captain of an opposing team) and I cannot allow such practices to distort the honesty of our relations with other teams.

Even if the intent was not to 'cheat', that has effectively been the result. I will take no other action until next week as I must go now and I will not be online again until Monday Morning. All I will add is that I place the highest importance on this team being one which values fairness and open honesty above everything else.
What other teams may or may not do is not important to me. If we end up with tough games and lose more than we win then so be it. I feel more strongly than anything that a win gained by unfair tactics is not worth having.

Comments are obviously appreciated, but please everyone I ask that you show restraint and respect for each other's opinions on this matter. This is an emotive issue but I don't want to start a slanging match or split the team over it. I will read what you have posted next week and decide what to do next.
Above all, please respect malkavian's right to reply on this matter.

Respectfully and with regrets, mercury_whyte


calmrolfe

10/03/2003
06:17:49

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Curious

Message:
malkavian appears to have a most unfortunate record when playing 700-800 GK rated players, losing all of them without putting up a fight. This does very effectively dampen down his personal rating.

Perhaps, in the name of fairness, our captain should compensate to the other extreme, and rate malkavian higher than he should be, ie 1800 GK and match him with other players of this standard. In this way we can perhaps, over a period of time, rectify any unfair advantage which we may have unwittingly obtained.

Phew !! Who'd be a team captain huh !! ?

Kind regards to all

Cal


1830

10/03/2003
10:08:59

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Malkavian

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I for one believe that Malkavian should be given the right to a fair hearing all be it between himself and the captain or in this forum. If there is a question of honesty to be raised then I think it is what we do now to repair the damage caused in respect to team relation's. I think that this is a decision for the captain alone ohhh the heavy burden of captaincy. Please everybody hold fire before making any rash comments.

icantwrite

10/03/2003
11:16:00

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Fair hearing.

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I also think that malk should be given a fair hearing
whether one on one with the captain or within this
forum. Whatever decision the captain makes i am
behind him 100% although maybe some type of vote
is a possibility?!


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