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demuziekdoos
11/12/2003
00:12:39
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 Subject: The Cynical Cynics team thread 13
Message:
Hello team,
Here is our new teamthread. Let's hope this number is a lucky number ;-)
A lot of games ended in the last 12 hours. The results are by a lot of you posted in thread number 12. You will read the results in the teamtable in this weekend.
I do have to tell you that deancolmer timed out in twelve (!) of his last games. Several games for our teamtournament and 2 teammatches. He has been online 1 day and 20 hours ago so I’m wondering if he timed out deliberately. He has only 5 remaining games. I've placed him under the non active players for the moment. I will ask him what happened.
A small match started a few minutes ago: we play a match with Team Canada
board #1249869 _____ superdonald (1464) – jimmyjohn (1419)
board #1249870 _____ superdonald (1464) – jimmyjohn (1419)
board #1249871 _____ iepltom (1007) – natattack (966)
board #1249872 _____ iepltom (1007) – natattack (966)
Enjoy your games, and keep your posts coming!
Paul (demuziekdoos)
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sdr46
11/12/2003
05:41:42
[ report this post ] | Looking to gain some points
Message:
Since GameKnot switched to Elo ratings, my opponents in team matches have been a lot closer to me in skill level than they were before when I seemed to be overmatched every time. So I hope to start posting some good wins soon, and will try to get my total score back to a respectable level.
Sdr46
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omus
11/12/2003
06:41:24
[ report this post ] | win or lose
Message:
it doesn't matter as long as we try our best and enjoy the games. I have just lost to my Regina Cattolica Chess Club opponent...he was just too good for me and i will probably lose the other game as well .
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cm2003
11/12/2003
07:45:11
[ report this post ] | ELO ratings
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The new ratings system is nice. Most of my past games I felt that the person I was playing was alot better than me but we had the same rating. Now the games are alot closer.
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demuziekdoos
11/12/2003
08:57:38
[ report this post ] | a few results, a record, time-outs
Message:
Hello team,
The other two matches deancolmer played got lost by time out (no moves made) as well. I just wrote him a message to ask him if he is ok and tell us what is going on.. The last time he was online was 2 days and 5 hours ago. Perhaps he is having computerproblems, he can be ill, etc. I hope he can explain why he is timing out in all his games.
omus lost a game from tokirapa, doesn’t matter at all, I hope you enjoyed the game. I wish you good luck in your other games.
And to finish with sdr46. I’m not sure but I guess it is a teamrecord. He finished a teamgame within 24 hours (opponent was tzaca) and he won this game. Congratulations sdr46!
Enjoy Chess!
Paul (demuziekdoos
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diogenes
11/12/2003
10:22:24
[ report this post ] | computer problems..........
Message:
recently when i have been signing in to gameknot, i get a message saying illegal operation....page fault....close now. sometimes it happens two or three times after closing and restarting internet explorer.......it's not a major problem because i can still sign in usually, but i wanted to ask if anyone knew what is causing this?
thanks
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sdr46
11/12/2003
12:02:37
[ report this post ] | Another win
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I just beat Tzaca in our second game. Maybe I'm on a roll now.
Sdr46
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raylopez
11/12/2003
13:58:45
[ report this post ] | Slav - reply to SDR, omus
Message:
SDR,
Thanks for your reply. I had forgotten that there was a 4..a6 option. I'm definitely going to try it out. Good advice, teammate!
Omus,
I am somewhat obsessive about trying to learn openings. One of them is called the "Slav," which actually means the Slav variation of the Queens Gambit Declined. It goes 1d4 d5 2 c4 c6. A few moves later Black ends up taking the c-pawn, so it's actually, I suppose, a variation of the Queens Gambit Accepted! In any case, the Slav proper is considered a pretty safe way to deal with the Queens Gambit. You get your Queen Bishop out to f5 or g4 before closing up the diagonal with e6, so you have a less cramped position than in the normal Queens Gambit Declined, where the Queen Bishop often becomes a "problem child" that can't be easily developed. On the negative side you have to watch out for White playing Qb3 and grabbing your b-pawn.
For some reason that I find difficult to explain, the main line of the Slav, in which you accept the gambit and bring your Queen Bishop out early, doesn't work as well if White plays 3 e3 or 4 e3 (instead of bringing both knights out on moves 3 and 4). I think it's because White can retake the c-pawn right away and doesn't have to waste time playing a4 to prevent Black from protecting the c4 pawn with ..b5. So I tried a different setup known as the Schlechter variation, in which Black fianchettos the King Bishop (4..g6, 5...Bg7). It didn't work very well for me.
Another option is to play both ..c6 and ...e6. This is called the Semi-Slav. It shuts in your Queen Bishop, as in the normal Queen Gambit Declined, but enables you to advance your queen side pawns quickly as in the Slav proper. But, for some reason, it's very complicated to learn.
Hope this satisfies your curiosity!
RayLopez
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omus
11/12/2003
15:28:19
[ report this post ] | Ray
Message:
To be honest I haven't got the brain power to understand these moves....i think I would go out of my mind (if I'm not already!!) if I tried to follow the plays. Best of luck to you.
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quirquincho
11/13/2003
14:38:13
[ report this post ] | My last active teamgame ...
Message:
has ended with a draw against tennisball.
I started the match not playing very well and I was succesful in losing the first game quickly.
In the second one after a tough game I was not confident to win and I was in a doubt. Finally I have accepted the proposed draw game but I'm not sure if it was the right decision.
The game is board #1101750 what do you thin teammates ?
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omus
11/13/2003
15:46:11
[ report this post ] | i am a rubbish player
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but i reckon you made the correct decision
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kinghenry
11/13/2003
23:48:45
[ report this post ] | looks like a draw to me.
Message:
quirquincho...i think your tennisball game decision to take the draw was very good. it definitely looks like a draw without anybody making a blunder, and there are not many plans to improve your position and invite him to blunder. i would have done the same.
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demuziekdoos
11/14/2003
00:17:40
[ report this post ] | It's a draw, also a new teamtable
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Hello team,
In my opinion you're right that this game is a draw. I would have done the same.
Even if it is no weekend yet, I made a new teamtable:
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
boki _____________ 1867 | 6 | 10 | 4
demuziekdoos ______ 1840 | 3 | 4 | 1
kinghenry __________ 1772 | 2 | 4 | 2
quirquincho ________ 1744 | 0 | 4 | 4
sdr46 _____________ 1645 | 2 | 6 | 4
thewizardofchess __ 1617 | 10 | 16 | 6
raylopez __________ 1596 | 8 | 10 | 2
omus _____________ 1567 | 14 | a lot | a lot
iepltom __________ 1007 | 4 | 6 | 2
max number of games (team or total)
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
pigonthe7th _______ 1886 | 2 | 2 | 0
misiek ____________ 1741 | 2 | 2 | 0
docd _____________ 1576 | 13 | 10 | -3
wuzzer ____________ 1504 | 4 | 6 | 2
superdonald ______ 1481 | 6 | 6 | 0
trailblazer __________ 1408 | 11 | 10 | -1
cm2003 ___________ 1264 | 3 | 2 | -1
diogenes __________ 1222 | 6 | 6 | 0
anchorman2020 _____ 1174 | 1 | 2 | 1
umpito ____________ 1118 | 6 | 6 | 0
vacation / to busy at this moment / etc
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
halfpast_yellow _____ 1879 | 11 | 20 | 9
boscoe ___________ 1347 | 0 | 4 | 4
no longer active players
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
bobcat ____________ 1827 | 0 | 0 | stop
bigmick ____________ 1654 | 0 | 0 | stop
deancolmer ________ 1211 | 0 | 0 | stop
strauss32 __________ 1057 | 0 | 0 | stop
Today and this weekend I will try to find some matches for the available players. It's not easy at this moment.
Enjoy your games!
Paul (demuziekdoos)
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omus
11/18/2003
04:44:28
[ report this post ] | lost a game
Message:
tokiripa bt me in our second game. 2-0 .too good 4 me
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demuziekdoos
11/18/2003
07:42:11
[ report this post ] | new record?
Message:
My son (superdonald) won his first teamgame yesterday for the team. If you do not include wins by time-outs it might be one of the shortest games of our team ever.
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 Bc5
5. Nxf7 Bxf2+
6. Kxf2 Nxe4+
7. Kg1 Qh4
8. Nxh8 Qf2#
I was reading a bedtime story to our daughter when he came in rushing and telling me that he won a teammatch. He was so happy. I first didn't believe him, all his teamgames just started. As you can see he was right.
I will post very soon about two teammatches that have finished.
Enjoy your chess!
Paul (demuziekdoos)
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docd
11/18/2003
08:18:11
[ report this post ] | Subject: Congrats to superdonald
Message:
superdonald - congratualtions on your 1st win for the team! Very nice.
docd
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raylopez
11/18/2003
09:44:09
[ report this post ] | A win and two losses
Message:
I am happy to report that I beat Ekh2 of the Sea Lions, to even my score against him. But I'm unhappy to report that I lost to A Professional Idiot (LOL!) of the Global Bounty Hunters (GREAT team name!) and to Jeffrey1976 of the Dolphins. As Black, Ekh2 played a Pirc Defense, which I find easy to beat. As White, A Professional Idiot played a Kings Indian Reversed, and Jeffrey1976 played an English Opening, neither of which I see very much of. I should have held my own against those two. Sorry about that, team. I will probably beat A Professional Idiot in our other game, but lose to Jeffrey1976 in my other game against him.
Ray Lopez
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cm2003
11/18/2003
15:22:38
[ report this post ] | Update
Message:
I havn't been playing that good lately. My team record is 2 and 7. I'm playing three team games right now. One game is going bad against gustert. I have already lost one game to gustert. My other two games against jtmoney are going good. I use an English opening on jtmoney and Queen's Gambit Declined. I don't think jtmoney has seen the English opening that much. I use it some times and have done pretty good with it in the past.
I have more time to play chess and can take more time to think in my games so things will turn around in my play.
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diogenes
11/19/2003
12:48:34
[ report this post ] | results..............
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1-1 against cdlcdl8764.....i made a major blunder in the second game which cost that game :-(
diogenes
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diogenes
11/19/2003
16:13:41
[ report this post ] | results..............
Message:
1-1 against shamusx1.....i made a major blunder in the second game which cost that game :-(
diogenes
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demuziekdoos
11/21/2003
04:13:43
[ report this post ] | team update, team birthday
Message:
Hello team,
Congratulations to us all, our team is 1 year old today!
We finished 571 games in this year, that is an average of 1.56 games per day
Let’s make it a good 2nd year for our team:
Yesterday this match started: we play a match with the Maple Leafs
board #1270772 _____ thewizardofchess (1617) – harald (1620)
board #1270773 _____ thewizardofchess (1617) – harald (1620)
board #1270774 _____ wuzzer (1483) – mglogauer (1377)
board #1270775 _____ wuzzer (1483) – mglogauer (1377)
board #1270776 _____ iepltom (1004) – levsha (1016)
board #1270777 _____ iepltom (1004) – levsha (1016)
Good luck to all the players in this match.
Last week 3 matches ended, here are the results:
2003-V-16 ..vs.. ~ Je maintiendrai ~ ( 10.5 : 5.5 )
2003-IX-19 ..vs.. Jogho ( 3.5 : 2.5 )
2003-IX-19 ..vs.. Regina Cattolica Chess Club ( 2 : 6 )
I will keep looking for some matches the next few days, hope to start a few new ones.
Here is our new teamtable:
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
demuziekdoos ______ 1835 | 0 | 4 | 4
kinghenry __________ 1764 | 2 | 4 | 2
bigmick ____________ 1654 | 0 | 2 | 2
thewizardofchess __ 1617 | 12 | 16 | 4
omus _____________ 1599 | 12 | a lot | a lot
raylopez __________ 1577 | 6 | 10 | 4
sdr46 _____________ 1601 | 1 | 6 | 5
superdonald ______ 1490 | 5 | 6 | 1
wuzzer ____________ 1483 | 5 | 6 | 1
diogenes __________ 1215 | 2 | 6 | 4
iepltom __________ 1004 | 5 | 6 | 1
docd _____________ 1575 | 7 | 10 | 3
trailblazer __________ 1400 | 9 | 10 | 1
umpito ____________ 1133 | 5 | 6 | 1
max number of games (team or total)
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
pigonthe7th _______ 1886 | 2 | 2 | 0
boki _____________ 1879 | 5 | 10 | 5
cm2003 ___________ 1260 | 3 | 2 | -1
vacation / to busy at this moment / etc
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
halfpast_yellow _____ 1884 | 10 | 20 | 10
quirquincho ________ 1746 | 0 | 4 | 4
misiek ____________ 1735 | 2 | 2 | 0
boscoe ___________ 1347 | 0 | 4 | 4
anchorman2020 _____ 1212 | 1 | 2 | 1
no longer active players
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
bobcat ____________ 1827 | 0 | 0 | stop
deancolmer ________ 1209 | 0 | 0 | stop
strauss32 __________ 1057 | 0 | 0 | stop
I hope you will all check your maximum number of games if still correct and I hope to hear from the 5 persons who are too busy / vacation when they will be available again.
This is a list of the matches we still have going:
2003-VIII-8 ..vs.. Finland - Suomi ( 3.5 : 5.5 ) 1 games to go
2003-VIII-22 ..vs.. Hispanios ( 2 : 7 ) 1 games to go
2003-IX-11 ..vs.. The motley fools ( 6.5 : 3.5 ) 2 games to go
2003-IX-14 ..vs.. Mental Patience ( 2.5 : 0.5 ) 1 games to go
2003-IX-17 ..vs.. Scandinavian Team ( 3 : 4 ) 3 games to go
2003-IX-18 ..vs.. Belgian Lions ( 3.5 : 2.5 ) 2 games to go
2003-IX-22 ..vs.. New York Lovers ( 0 : 1 ) 3 games to go
2003-IX-28 ..vs.. Sea Lions ( 4 : 1 ) 5 games to go
2003-IX-29 ..vs.. Chessworld of Peace ( 3 : 1 ) 6 games to go
2003-X-01 ..vs.. Nemesis ( 5 : 0 ) 1 games to go
2003-X-12 ..vs.. Global bounty Hunters ( 2 : 2 ) 2 games to go
2003-X-17 ..vs.. ___ For USSR ___ ( 3 : 3 ) 14 games to go
2003-X-19 ..vs.. Southern Chess ( 0 : 3 ) 3 games to go
2003-X-26 ..vs.. team norway ( 1.5 : 3.5 ) 1 games to go
2003-X-28 ..vs.. The burninators ( 1 : 2 ) 3 games to go
2003-XI-01 ..vs.. The Dolphins ( 0 : 1 ) 5 games to go
2003-XI-02 ..vs.. "PAWNS of WAR" ( 2 : 1 ) 9 games to go
2003-XI-07 ..vs.. RoyalFlushTrailerTrash ( 1 : 1 ) 4 games to go
2003-XI-09 ..vs.. Yeshua’s Army ( 3 : 4 ) 9 games to go
2003-XI-09 ..vs.. Czech Republic ( 1 : 0 ) 3 games to go
2003-XI-09 ..vs.. Team North Shore ( 2 : 0 ) 2 games to go
2003-XI-11 ..vs.. Bloody Team .ro ( 2.5 : 0.5 ) 5 games to go
2003-XI-20 ..vs.. The Maple Leafs ( 0 : 0 ) 6 games to go
Hope to have updated you all.
Enjoy the game of chess!
Paul (demuziekdoos)
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cm2003
11/21/2003
06:42:22
[ report this post ] | Max number of games
Message:
Paul
I can now take 6 games. Work has slowed down somewhat.
Chris
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demuziekdoos
11/21/2003
12:16:40
[ report this post ] | new matches
Message:
Hello team,
Two matches started today:
The first one is with Clockwork!
board #1273836 _____ kinghenry (1764) – tyrin (1706)
board #1273837 _____ kinghenry (1764) – tyrin (1706)
board #1273838 _____ sdr46 (1610) – pecto_pecto (1592)
board #1273839 _____ sdr46 (1610) – pecto_pecto (1592)
board #1273840 _____ omus (1599) – fierymanjeff (1564)
board #1273841 _____ omus (1599) – fierymanjeff (1564)
board #1273842 _____ docd (1575) – waleashbar (1512)
board #1273843 _____ docd (1575) – waleashbar (1512)
board #1273844 _____ trailblazer (1400) – jfa22 (1432)
board #1273845 _____ trailblazer (1400) – jfa22 (1432)
board #1273846 _____ cm2003 (1260) – chessbob (1314)
board #1273847 _____ cm2003 (1260) – chessbob (1314)
board #1273848 _____ diogenes (1215) – pfhpfhpfh (1227)
board #1273849 _____ diogenes (1215) – pfhpfhpfh (1227)
The second match is with Mystic Chessboxer
board #1273957 _____ omus (1599) – maxamillion (1571)
board #1273958 _____ omus (1599) – maxamillion (1571)
board #1273959 _____ umpito (1133) – timm (1148)
board #1273960 _____ umpito (1133) – timm (1148)
Good luck to all players in both matches!
Paul (demuziekdoos)
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omus
11/21/2003
15:24:00
[ report this post ] | going through
Message:
a bad patch, drawn some, lost some, won none. now in negative territory, but should be in plus land by the New Year.
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pigonthe7th
11/21/2003
20:19:28
[ report this post ] | superdonalds first win
Message:
Why didn't White simply play 8.g3 which seems to brush Black's attack off (8...Qf6 9.Qe2). I will use this short game with my chess students as a classic example of NOT looking at your opponent's threats.
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diogenes
11/22/2003
11:38:45
[ report this post ] | team tournament.....
Message:
Have all games been completed for the team tournament....if so, what are the final results........and is there going to be a second one?
happy birthday team!
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demuziekdoos
11/22/2003
12:05:28
[ report this post ] | new match
Message:
Hello team,
A few minutes ago another match with ___ For USSR ___ starded. We already play a match with this team (another big match) but why not play two matches.
This are the games:
board #1276270 _____ demuziekdoos (1835) – huub (1869)
board #1276271 _____ demuziekdoos (1835) – huub (1869)
board #1276272 _____ bigmick (1654) – zizyphus (1650)
board #1276273 _____ bigmick (1654) – zizyphus (1650)
board #1276274 _____ sdr46 (1621) – gerigoorian (1642)
board #1276275 _____ sdr46 (1621) – gerigoorian (1642)
board #1276276 _____ thewizardofchess (1617) – tetref (1633)
board #1276277 _____ thewizardofchess (1617) – tetref (1633)
board #1276278 _____ omus (1589) – chessmasternedko (1598)
board #1276279 _____ omus (1589) – chessmasternedko (1598)
board #1276280 _____ raylopez (1577) – jobelix (1522)
board #1276281 _____ raylopez (1577) – jobelix (1522)
board #1276282 _____ superdonald (1493) – mosaic (1516)
board #1276283 _____ superdonald (1493) – mosaic (1516)
board #1276284 _____ wuzzer (1455) – edwardre (1475)
board #1276285 _____ wuzzer (1455) – edwardre (1475)
board #1276286 _____ cm2003 (1260) – raitis (1258)
board #1276287 _____ cm2003 (1260) – raitis (1258)
Enjoy your games
And to answer the question of diogenes, our teamtournament is not finished yet . You can find it by looking at one of the the teammembers (for instance me) and look at the Cynical Cynics mini tournament. If you click the link to a game you will find a link to the tournament as well
I would like to have another teamtournament after this one is finished, I have to tell you that we will have several big problems with a new tournament, I’ll explain the problems when we all intend to play another teamtournament.
I made a quick new teamtable, I did not look at the ratings so they might be a bit of, it’s just the number of games we all are playing. As you all can see I don’t have much options for new teammatches at this moment. If one comes our way I will offcourse accept but it will all be small matches.
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
demuziekdoos ______ 1835 | 2 | 4 | 2
thewizardofchess __ 1617 | 12 | 16 | 4
sdr46 _____________ 1601 | 5 | 6 | 1
omus _____________ 1599 | 16 | a lot | a lot
raylopez __________ 1577 | 8 | 10 | 2
docd _____________ 1575 | 9 | 10 | 1
diogenes __________ 1215 | 4 | 6 | 2
iepltom __________ 1004 | 5 | 6 | 1
max number of games (team or total)
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
pigonthe7th _______ 1886 | 2 | 2 | 0
boki _____________ 1879 | 5 | 10 | 5
kinghenry __________ 1764 | 4 | 4 | 0
trailblazer __________ 1400 | 11 | 10 | -1
umpito ____________ 1133 | 7 | 6 | -1
bigmick ____________ 1654 | 2 | 2 | 0
superdonald ______ 1490 | 7 | 6 | -1
wuzzer ____________ 1483 | 7 | 6 | -1
cm2003 ___________ 1260 | 7 | 6 | -1
vacation / to busy at this moment / etc
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
halfpast_yellow _____ 1884 | 10 | 20 | 10
quirquincho ________ 1746 | 0 | 4 | 4
misiek ____________ 1735 | 2 | 2 | 0
boscoe ___________ 1347 | 0 | 4 | 4
anchorman2020 _____ 1212 | 1 | 2 | 1
no longer active players
ID _________________ rating | active | max games | available
bobcat ____________ 1827 | 0 | 0 | stop
deancolmer ________ 1209 | 0 | 0 | stop
strauss32 __________ 1057 | 0 | 0 | stop
Paul (demuziekdoos)
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demuziekdoos
11/24/2003
00:19:20
[ report this post ] | another match (11th this month)
Message:
Hello team,
The next teammatch has just started, a new match with Finland – Suomi. We have one game going in an old match with this team, we have already lost this match so lets try to win this one
board #1279758 _____ demuziekdoos (1831) – mikesavage (1792)
board #1279759 _____ demuziekdoos (1831) – mikesavage (1792)
board #1279760 _____ thewizardofchess (1609) – xelloss (1596)
board #1279761 _____ thewizardofchess (1609) – xelloss (1596)
board #1279762 _____ omus (1599) – jouni (1554)
board #1279763 _____ omus (1599) – jouni (1554)
board #1279764 _____ raylopez (1577) – keijo42 (1520)
board #1279765 _____ raylopez (1577) – keijo42 (1520)
Enjoy your games!
Paul (demuziekdoos)
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omus
11/24/2003
03:36:44
[ report this post ] | good work captain
Message:
Good work on the team matches front.
I have just won a game agianst my for_ussr opponent but he has the edge in in the other
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omus
11/24/2003
07:44:45
[ report this post ] | does anyone reckon
Message:
it would be a good idea for a team to play another team (2 games ...black/white) and the moves decided by a team vote??
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sdr46
11/24/2003
09:12:26
[ report this post ] | I like that idea
Message:
Sounds like fun, Omus.
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omus
11/24/2003
10:08:37
[ report this post ] | sdr46
Message:
Thanks for the support. I was thinking that someone like me could learn from better players, like yourself, demuziekdoos and others. i.e. if we all chipped in with our suggested moves, the better players can show us what move would be the best. My game would certainly improve.
.
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sdr46
11/24/2003
10:48:49
[ report this post ] | We can do the game like this
Message:
We can set up 2 sub-teams within our team, each headed by one person as sub-captain. We then divide the team players into the 2 sub-teams. Each sub-team can email the sub-captain(and everyone else on the sub-team) with their ideas on the game, and the 2 sub-captains make the moves against each other.
Sounds like a great idea to me.
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umpito
11/24/2003
14:50:35
[ report this post ] |
Message:
Good news! arathlion has resigned both his games against me (I think that he had too many games to handle, as both games were only about four moves long). I have won one game against sasquatch and am up three pieces and a queen in the other. Against pele2003, I have won one game, and I am up the exchange in the ending in the other.
I love the idea of a team consultation match. Another possible way to do it would be for each player of the team to make several moves, then pass the game on to somebody else. Either way would be very cool.
Dan
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cm2003
11/25/2003
05:28:11
[ report this post ] | Consultation match
Message:
Sounds good to me.
Chris
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sdr46
11/25/2003
13:16:28
[ report this post ] | Another win!
Message:
I just won 1 game from Pecto-Pecto of the Clockwork team. The other is even with a slight tilt towards me so far. Slowly, slowly, I am climbing out of my pit.
Sdr46
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halfpast_yellow
11/25/2003
16:22:48
[ report this post ] | Kibitz match.
Message:
I love the idea of the consultation match. One of the greatest things I enjoy is analyzing a completed or partly finished game with an opponent. I don't get many chances to do this, well only really with teammember Pigonthe7th in our OTB games, and he has so much more knowledge than myself that it's a great help. However we go about organising this 'match' , count me in!
Also I will post an update on team game results soon.
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halfpast_yellow
11/25/2003
16:22:48
[ report this post ] | Kibitz match.
Message:
I love the idea of the consultation match. One of the greatest things I enjoy is analyzing a completed or partly finished game with an opponent. I don't get many chances to do this, well only really with teammember Pigonthe7th in our OTB games, and he has so much more knowledge than myself that it's a great help. However we go about organising this 'match' , count me in!
Also I will post an update on team game results soon.
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omus
11/25/2003
16:43:36
[ report this post ] | well
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seems as if there is interest in the consultation game. i was originally thinking of a game against another team, but.......
provided we have our Captains blessing( He is steering this Ship very well ) why dont we delegate the responsibility to someone in the team to organise it as they think fit. Sadly, I have too much on my plate. Any takers???
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diogenes
11/25/2003
19:59:15
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I think sdr46 has got it!!.......we would need to know how many players are in, and the two strongest players (if they don't mind) could pick the teams......also it would allow 'casual' players like me ;-) to improve and help to develop the team...
diogenes
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halfpast_yellow
11/26/2003
01:43:51
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G’day team, I am very pleased to report a 2-0 victory to me in my match with bdbor of ‘Italians do it better’. My first victory in a teammatch and a cleansweep! Despite the lopsided score my worthy opponent challenged me hard in both games. I also had an early resignation from my opponent longshanks of ‘Nemisis’, but playing as black I did have a small material and a fairly large positional advantage. Playing white vs gagarin we had a short draw in a blocked position which either one of us was not able to make much of. Gagarin is a 1900+ player so I was happy to draw him and our second game in progress does not look too dangerous.
Sadly my opponent Kumpansangel of the team ‘Chessworld of peace’ timed out in both our games today. I am not aware of the circumstances of my opponent, and although rated lower than me the games were tough and as white I believe I was playing poorly. It is two lucky points for the match with ‘Chessworld of peace’ I don’t think I would earned and I hope it does not spoil the match between our two teams.
I’m all for this consultation game, should all volunteers post an aye in the team thread?
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pigonthe7th
11/26/2003
23:29:33
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I have taken part in one consultation game. It was for the South Island of New Zealand against the North Island (even though I lived in the North Island - I am really a South Islander). I pulled out after a few moves as it was total chaos with DOZENS of emails arriving daily, all confusing and none relating to each other. Once my inbox got to over 300 emails (and we weren't at move 10!) I gave up. One Friday night I went to supervise at a school dance for ONE hour. I came home to 20 confused and confusing messages. I gave up. The concept was supposed to be simple. We voted for our favourite move and the most popular was played. But it didn't work out as expected as people started sending in analysis to convince others. It was just too, too much.
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omus
11/27/2003
09:19:27
[ report this post ] | well.........
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i was think of just using two new threads and not bothering with emails.....
it would be interesting to see how peoples minds work.
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omus
11/27/2003
10:02:05
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5 or 6 of us interested, any more??? doesn't matter if its 3 a side?? playera can play playerb in an unrated game and it may be interesting to put the weaker players in charge of making the moves (and listening to the stronger players).
I reckon it would be great if we actually played another team in order to create more of a team atmosphere.
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diogenes
11/27/2003
10:54:22
[ report this post ] | also....
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it can work without captains being burdened....first player in each team to nominate a move sends a message to rest of the team....second player does the same but includes first players move in message....third includes first and second and so on.....last player would send all team members a complete list of the possible moves...then it's down to a vote.
I don't think every player should be obliged to nominate or vote on every move....i would prefer to take a back seat anyeay and learn from the better players....
diogenes
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sdr46
11/27/2003
11:16:14
[ report this post ] | Using separate threads is best
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I don't think that a consultation game would work against another team well.
But if we set up separate threads for each sub-team, and take a word of honor of each sub-team not to look at the other sub-team's thread during the game, then we can do it without burdening the sub-captain with tons of emails.
I nominate Omus and Diogenes to be the sub-captains. Umpito, Half Past Yellow and myself have already stated their wishes to join. Anybody else want to join? I say we give another week to see who else wants to join. At that point Diogenes should take the players whose nicknames start with A-L and Omus takes those with M-Z. If they want or need to make changes to even out the sub-teams then they can negotiate between themselves.
They then can start a challenge game between Diogenes and Omus, and set up 2 threads. They tell their respective sub-team members where to find the threads and ,voila, we can start playing.
I hope you don't mind that I made up all these rules myself. It's just that if we keep talking, we'll never get started.
Sdr46
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quirquincho
11/27/2003
11:51:36
[ report this post ] | About the consultation game
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I'm sorry to tell you that I don't have time enough to participate in it but it sounds very well to learn from others.
Probably next time.
Regards, quirquincho.
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omus
11/27/2003
12:01:20
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i agree with you 100%. lets do it. also 3 days per move. Match to start 1800 hrs this Sunday evening GMT, I'll challenge Diogenes. Other team members can join a few moves into the game if they want to get involved. Lets go all out for a win but lets learn from others. But lets get the blessing of Paul, our team leader, this is courteous: he is doing a great job.
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sdr46
11/27/2003
16:48:45
[ report this post ] | Agreed
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Omus, I agree. Paul should give us his blessing before we start. And if we do, be sure you and Diogenes start up threads for team members, and tell everyone who is on whose team.
Sdr46
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kinghenry
11/27/2003
20:45:52
[ report this post ] | consultation game
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The consultation game idea sounds interesting, but I fear I will only have time to be an observer. Good luck to all, and I hope it's a great success.
P.S. ...perhaps the teams should be divided into two groups of equal rating to give the best chance of a balanced game.
...kinghenry
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demuziekdoos
11/28/2003
00:37:53
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and I will start a new one at once
Paul (demuziekdoos)
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