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kai_sim
3/16/2004 20:11:00 [ report this post ] |
Subject: ~~L°ЯÐs Ǿf Tнê teªm§~~ Team Forum [15]
Message: you can find the old forum here:
gameknot.com/fmsg/chess5/1445.shtml
sorry vincent, i didn't noticed that the old one filled up so fast. at least you got the honor for the last msg in it
;p
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v_glorioso12
3/17/2004 15:57:24 [ report this post ] | :-o
Message: :-D and first here :-D except for u... :-\
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spurtus
3/19/2004 14:57:34 [ report this post ] |
Message: Hey new thread!... lets talk about something here...
How about a team poll, your response to...
1. e4
1. d4
1. nf3
1. c4
I'm just curious what sort of basic black repertoir people have these days.
These are my auto responses
1. e4 d5 ( Scand )
1. d4 nf6 ( KID )
1. nf3 e6! ( see pafu )
1. c4 e5 ( actually I cannot lie I really dont know what I'd play here! ... its a hard move to respond to properly?... but this seems like my only sensible response )
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kai_sim
3/19/2004 19:06:57 [ report this post ] | lets see
Message: if i understand your question right, i would have to answer with "english openings"
here are some lines for you my friend:
english: 1. c4 e5, 2.Nc3 Nc6, 3. g3 d6, 4. Bg2 Be6 5. d3 Qd7
four knights: 1. c4 e5, 2. Nc3 Nf6, 3. Nf3 Nc6, 4. g3 Bb4, 5.Bg2 0-0 [4... Bc5, 5.d3 0-0]
my favorite is the ultra symmetrical: 1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 from there on are many ways to play with Nf3 (...e5), e4(...Nf6), e3(...e6) and a3(...a6).
check it out, it's fun, and often you can push the opponents buttons with it, because they often think that you just copy their moves and then try some less effective move to see if you'll copy that as well and there you go then...
oh, and if you are interested into working on your openings i suggest:
Modern Chess Openings (MCO) by Nick de Firmian.
I have MCO-14 (ISBN 0-8129-3084-3) and believe it's the latest print that came out.
good luck my friend
kai
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kai_sim
3/19/2004 19:45:47 [ report this post ] | help me out here
Message: I don't know what to do and how to decide and i am hoping to get some input from you guys. katrin and lordofthelings timed out in their team games.
now what makes it very hard for me to decide about it because i like both players very much (just as everyone else on the team). now we do have a non tollerance policey for time outs in team games. lordofthelings timed out in 4 games this time and once in the past in two games. i'm not upset with him because of his positive team score of 19 points. he didn't come back online yet, neither contacted me yet. i'll decide when he returned.
the issue i can't deal with alone is katrin's. she put me and the team in a very unpleasent situation.
everything started with a team match with her against fliszt. i don't know what happend in the past, but fliszt contacted me very upset that i put him together with a match against her. he started to insult her and to talk bad about our team. he even contacted webmaster and his old team captain from back in that time to complain about our team. he then had no success with his path of war and left his old team.
i'm still getting msg's from him like:
26-Feb-2004 10:33 Private message from fliszt:
Hello, kai_sim!
Dear Kai, I am sorry but for as long as your team continues to have player katrin on your team your team will remain on our no play list. She is absolutely the worst staller on this site and she is an extremely poor sport. For example, I have two team games with her now in progress since October 7, 2003, and we are still only in the 20's in moves. She has taken numerous postponenments and she uses nearly the entire 72 hours for every single move that she does make. Both games, by the way, are obvious losses for her and they have been for quite some time. I reported her to Mike about it and he said that there is nothing that he can do about her and that we should just all avoid playing her. Next, she reported me to Mike for abusing her about her slow play, which was not true. Likewise we suspect that she may well be a fake ID for thomaswolf of the Dolphins. He too is a notorious staller and there is an obvious affiliation between the two of them that can be seen on both of their profiles. In any case, Kai, suffice it to say that as long as you harbor poor sports like katrin on your team you will have great difficulty getting team games in the future. Thank you.
i then told him politely my postion and that i'll allways hold up for our team.
26-Feb-2004 11:08 Private message from fliszt:
Hello, kai_sim!
Thanks for your kind reply, but I must humbly beg to differ with you. There is something you can do about her. Kick her off your team. That's what I would do to an obvious poor sport.
i then ignored that last one and got this:
04-Mar-2004 15:12 Private message from fliszt:
Hello, kai_sim!
For your information, and I know that we discussed this once before, your team player, katrin, has just taken yet another ten day postponement in our two team games. Her stalling is becoming legendary. As you can see from the games they were begun on October 7, 2003, and we are only at moves 24 and 26. By the way, both games are certain losses for her and they have been for quite some time. By the way, I have answered her every move on the same day, and usually within hours, as she made her move. That means that she has made 25 moves in nearly six months! That means that she is averaging one move a week! And these are team games with a three day per move limit! Her stalling is absolutely ridiculous and for you to tolerate it, even condone it, by keeping her on your team is an indictment not only on yourself but on your team as well. These games should have ended three to four months ago, and yet instead of resigning, like most good sports would have done a long time ago, she only continues to stall and stall and stall. It is hard to have any respect for you or your team for allowing this to go on. There has been more than ample discussions in the forums here about the poor sportsmanship of known stallers. Surely, your teammate, katrin, is the worst offender on the entire site.
ignored that then as well.
now to the games itself:
we are talking about game numbers: board #1159124, board #1159125 and board #1160328 (winning)
i think that both games against fliszt are total losses. one is a mate in 9 and the other she would have been in a few moves a few pawns behind (drawable against a average players, but against such a strong one...
i then got this msg from her:
18-Mar-2004 20:04 Private message from katrin:
Hello, kai_sim!
hello kai
:(
i just losted 3 team games by time out.
it was very important games for me because i wanted won with fliszt.
was no electricity here and i had no connection with the internet:(
it's the first three of my team games which i losted by time out.
if you will decide to remove (delete) me from Your team i will understand that.
i am so sorry.what a shame.:(
i really don't like this guy fliszt and i wanted win with him. grrrrrrrrrrr
i sent to him a message too:P of course.
so let's me know what You will decide about me and about this team games which i losted.
i understand that it's not good for our team, and everybody are trying to get some more points and me in stupid way are losing so lots team games. :(
so i understand when you will be want me to leave the team.
let's me know what You will decide.
katrin
i then sent her this:
18-Mar-2004 20:29 Private message from kai_sim:
Hello, katrin!
against fliszt you where ways behind, in one game, there was a mate in 9 and in the other you where like 3 pawns behind within a few moves (maybe drawable). against darrenred you where winning big times, which is sad that you timed out.
the conflict between you and fliszt i don't know how it started, and i'm not sure if i want to know. all i know is that even other players on our team wanted to have a match against him as well...
i don't know what to do about the conflict between you and him and the reputation of the team.
what would make the decsition harder is, that i like you as a team mate verry much. on the other side, you asked me about having no more team matches for the future and that you are thinking of stop playing chess...
i'll decide tomorrow.
i then got this msg as reply:
19-Mar-2004 17:23 Private message from katrin:
Hello, kai_sim!
hello;-))
ok kai let's me know about that.
yes i can't play team games for one month.......something like that. i am going with thomas on his Ironman and vacations.
it will be like in the end of May or in the beggining of June, and i will not be able to play this one month, or maybe one month and a half.
ok.let's me know
bye bye
see u
katrin
ps. against fliszt i wanted play, but he is not right guy and he was calling me not nice ( i don't knwo why).
with this kind of stuff which he was calling me i can go to the court even and i will win............and it's for that i don't like this guy. and i will not allow him to do this kind of stuff.
ok let's me know.
bye bye
see u
guys, what do you think about this?
i'm addressing it here, because i think it's about the team reputation and not captains issue alone.
if you don't like to post into the teams forum or can't (i believe 5-6 players are banned right now, you can priv. msg me and i'll post it for you into the forum or take it into considderation.
thank for your help
kai
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pawnfindia
3/20/2004 03:23:23 [ report this post ] | help me out here
Message: Dear Kai,
Actually the prob may be the Ego between the two. But now the situation is not so worse. Already Katrin told that she is not going to play team games for another 1-2 months. So u pls keep her name in the list. In future u see to it that u r not going to give any of the games of that filszt team. initially u give her 2 games and if she contines to time out even after that we will decide then wht to do. This is only suggestion and the decision ball vil be always in ur court.
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chees
3/20/2004 06:24:17 [ report this post ] | Regarding Katrin
Message: First I would like to say that Fliszt´s opinion of course should have no influence on whether Katrin should stay on the team or not. In fact I think it is rude of him to write the things he does. Apparently he is a very impatient person. Everybody has the right to use up their days on postponements and to use all their time on each move. Seconly I don´t think there is any excuse for timeing out teamgames. Use the teams policy on this issue IMO. All this is just my humble opinion.
Best regards
Chees
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ken1
3/20/2004 09:00:04 [ report this post ] | Regarding Katrin
Message: You will have to admit the time taken between moves is unacceptable and would be very frustrating to anybody; it is already difficult enough to get team challenges without this bickering. Timeouts can be recovered from so long as they are few and very far between, but accidents will happen. Karin’s future planes do not appear advantages to the team
I think she should be politely thanked for her contribution to the team.
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ken1
3/20/2004 09:00:19 [ report this post ] | Regarding Katrin
Message: You will have to admit the time taken between moves is unacceptable and would be very frustrating to anybody; it is already difficult enough to get team challenges without this bickering. Timeouts can be recovered from so long as they are few and very far between, but accidents will happen. Karin’s future planes do not appear advantages to the team
I think she should be politely thanked for her contribution to the team.
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chees
3/20/2004 09:42:26 [ report this post ] | Regarding Katrin
Message: Well, all I can say is that we do have a policy on timeouts. And as I already stated I think we should follow this. If exceptions is made now, what then if the problem appear again on some other player? A rule is a rule IMO, and should be followed. About time taken between moves: Yes it can be frustrating if your opponent uses all his time, but on the other hand: He/she has the right to do so. The time is 3 days per move, don´t forget that.
Best regards
Chess
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katrin
3/20/2004 17:12:50 [ report this post ] | hello
Message: first of all i don't like kai what you did. i mean u put private message from me to you on the forum.
is it right?
i don't think so.
second thing...............i had no electricity and it's for that i didn't do move for every body to know.
third thing Mr. Fliszt it's not nice guy and i don't need to explain.
ok sorry..but right now.............really i don't like that my private message is on the team forum and every body are reading that.
it was just for you kai...........like for the captain. private it's private.
and everybody are doing form that a sensation.
take care..........
sory but at the moment i am so pist off
sorry
regards
katrin
ps. i think so i will resigne from that by myself.
sorry i dont' know what to say...........i feel bad.
it's not big deal to send somebody message on the forum............
but its' not nice to do like that.
PRIVATE IS PRIVATE
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ken1
3/20/2004 18:16:28 [ report this post ] | Regarding Katrin
Message: chees Thanks for your Response , but with respect I would suggest that if kai_sim took such a rigid approach as you seem to be evocating we would be very soon shooting ourselves in the foot ,
Yes, we need a rule in place but exercise with prudence, but in this case it has got out of hand, kai_sim is being hit from both sides and can not make a decision. Webmaster is hearing about it, you can take it there are unsavoury messages passing between Karin and Fliszt, other than my first solution if the team doesn’t have the stomach for it then she should forfeit any games which are unwinable and send Karin on a long vacation
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kai_sim
3/23/2004 01:37:42 [ report this post ] | please!
Message: who else would like to share his opinion?
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carlosguzman
3/24/2004 17:25:22 [ report this post ] | please!
Message: Persons who timeout several times and stall games must be out of our Team.
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lordoftherings
3/25/2004 07:35:00 [ report this post ] | my opinion
Message: she should be in the team..she is here from along time ago..i think she deserves respect...I am totally negative for time outs i know that we cant tolerate..
She said she wont play for a mount ...she should have in our team until a second fault.All i can say is that.1-i am not so close to the team i dont know exactly the situation 2-but i know that she deserves more respect...i know that time outsare not respectable to the team but we can excuse.
To kai-sim:
i really thank u all your efforts for the team for your replacement.now i want 1 more thing from u...can we now "dont play" with the team players list.no 1 go no 1 come until my return.
can we ?
best wishes.
Lotr.
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kai_sim
3/25/2004 20:55:09 [ report this post ] | regarding katrin
Message: I like her very much as a friend. in our chats she made me laugh. she has a big heart.
i never wanted to remove you, but i wanted the team to decide. most team mates decided for you with a certain break.
if you still like, you can stay with us. I would be happy if you do.
on the other side, i'll reserve the right to remove you from the team if we'll hear similar complaints about stalling games or bringing private problems onto the team (you specificaly asked me for the match against fliszt).
regarding lordofthelings:
he still hasn't been seen on GK and i hope that nothing serious happend to him. Maybe katrin knows (both from poland)???
team list:
is supposed to stay as is (filled up on the ratings we needed), except i'll get that GM onto the team. he still hasn't decided for GK or not (he does like it here...).
best regards
Kai
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katrin
3/26/2004 11:54:59 [ report this post ] | thx kai;-))
Message: thx kai;-))
about lordofthelings i know nothing :(
i am living in Miami.
:P
regards
katrin
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kai_sim
3/27/2004 00:34:40 [ report this post ] | sorry guy's and girl
Message: ...
i don't have the time anymore to be captain...
it takes much more time than i thought in the beginning... everything was still fine, but now i had to switch jobs (too much up north...) and the new one is even better than the old one...
i would like to stay on the team, but please release me from the captains job...
i would keep it until summer, but there is an awesome penthouse, a new job and other stuff that will take much more time than expected...
i'lll be able to come here for like every 2nd or 3rd day so i don't time out but will not be able to set up team matches or anything else...
if you still want me after the 'vacation' for a month or two, thx a lot, if you think you don't have enough games, sorry, take it over...
again:
sorry about the almost 4 moths vacation, but it was the best time in my life.
if not, take it over and i won't feel bad (after i'll be good again...)
best regards
kai
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chees
3/27/2004 02:47:02 [ report this post ] | Hello Kai
Message: I´m very sorry to hear that you are planning to leave your job as teamcaptain. I think you have been, and still are, a good captain for the team, despite the resent problems due to your long vacation. Maybe some other would take over, but if there is the slighest possibility that you will stay, I would rather that.
Best regards
Chees
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carlosguzman
3/27/2004 04:36:38 [ report this post ] | Kai´s message
Message: You are a good friend and an oustanding Captain for our Team. Please if possible reconsider your idea of living.
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chic_luc
3/27/2004 12:29:37 [ report this post ] | please
Message: I want him to stay!
Luc
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lordoftherings
4/02/2004 08:32:42 [ report this post ] | hey...
Message: we are on 6th rank in the team's table!!
thats cool...
i think that kai is doing good job.
i repeat thank u kai!
:)
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kai_sim
4/05/2004 01:28:12 [ report this post ] | nice...
Message: place FIVE for the lords!
who tgought about that?
:))))
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chees
4/05/2004 02:19:12 [ report this post ] | Soon number one?
Message: Yes, and now we can see first place in front of us. All other teams better take care (hopefully they read this ;-).
Chees
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kai_sim
4/06/2004 12:30:01 [ report this post ] | vlads match
Message: the games started, i forgot to mention that it was supposed to be for players with 1900+ rating. I where still able to get a match for lornguyenvo as well. i would have loved to get more matches for us, but peter did the best he can do.
the pairings and board numbers are as follows:
board #1676119 chees (2173) vs. drdesoto (2190) (veterans match!!!)
board #1676120 chees (2173) vs. drdesoto (2190)
board #1676121 clems (2128) vs. marcocapezza (2158)
board #1676122 clems (2128) vs. marcocapezza (2158)
board #1676123 dailos (2013) vs. lazar60001 (1975)
board #1676124 dailos (2013) vs. lazar60001 (1975)
board #1676125 lordnguyenvo (1802) vs. terryaki (1856)
board #1676126 lordnguyenvo (1802) vs. terryaki (1856)
would have loved to get a match for myself, but maybe next time :)
anyways, we all are doing great. and it's now PLACE NUMBER 4 for us :))
love you all
kai
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kai_sim
4/07/2004 19:08:07 [ report this post ] | How about
Message: we try to win all our team games and be the first team with a rating over 1600?
;p
kai
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experimentator
4/07/2004 22:40:23 [ report this post ] | Well...
Message: I have a winning position in game against Dutchables (the oldest active game of our team now!), and two clearly better positions against Romania...
If you find some new matches for me, I'll help some more...
Best wishes, experimentator
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lordoftherings
4/12/2004 04:27:47 [ report this post ] | really good...
Message: over 1600 ??
this team deserves this rating...lets fight for #1 !!!
lotr...
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kai_sim
4/12/2004 16:05:21 [ report this post ] | experimentator
Message: don't worry, just put your max team games in your preferences menue up and it will regulate itself :)
btw, we now are on place 3, seems to be a bit regulated now :))
best regards
kai
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kai_sim
4/12/2004 16:06:49 [ report this post ] | typo
Message: of course i meant stablelized, not regulated
:)
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kai_sim
4/12/2004 19:57:40 [ report this post ] | missing in action
Message: does anyone know whats up/wrong with:
lordofthelings
pawnstar
onlythemage
??????????????????
no answer since long time, timed out in their games and havn't been seen on GK for 8-36 days...
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kai_sim
4/17/2004 23:22:10 [ report this post ] | please
Message: don't forget, that starting on the 20th of april i'll match up the team games by availability, because i don't have the time anymore to compare/update my private notes. after all, mike gave us this great feature for a reason...
please go to [preferences] / [team games] and update your max number of team games, you would like to play.
once more again: one team match equals two team games!
keep up the good work, and i'm sure it will not take long to be back into the top 3!
love you all!
best regards
kai
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kai_sim
4/19/2004 17:36:57 [ report this post ] | inactive players on the team
Message: I have now as follows (sorted by team points):
vulpes
lordofthelings
pawnstar
komei
lordoftherings
onlythemage
katrin
(unfortunately most of the players are in the 1800 ratings range :(, which used to be our strongest range)
from tomorrow on, these are the only players i'll not give any team matches until they ask me. you'll not be able to set your team games counter to zero. please set it down to two. would be great if you all could contact mike as well, to have this into GK implemented.
for all others, from tomorrow on, i'll give you your team matches, as it showes you in your preferences (+1). thank you again for updating your info and understanding.
place number 5 for us today; i love that!
iamian timed out in two team games, i hope it's nothing serious with him
oh well, i'll talk to you all soon again
good luck for your games
kai
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frodan
4/20/2004 09:12:14 [ report this post ] | .....surely.....
Message: .....i hav got the longest running active game,experimentator! am playing on board #1156819 a game that started 3rd october 2003,neither of us is complaining! :)
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kai_sim
4/20/2004 11:40:07 [ report this post ] | nope, neither one is right
Message: Team match (started 08-Sep-03, 3 days per move) tkdman vs. clems
anyways, i always think, that chess is also a game of pations and speed timing.
so, sometimes we are having a big challenge for our patiens, and it's good that way. i learned to keep quiet and wait since i'm 6. if you have an advantage in those games, even better: sitt back and relax... and don't foget, the other one is boiling in his own juices. maybe even hoping, that you'll give up or even worse: time out
you all are doing a good job and no one on the team needs a strategie like that, because we all know how to play!
:)
best regards
kai
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experimentator
4/20/2004 22:55:20 [ report this post ] | :-), you & me are right, Kai...
Message: ... it depends of time when posted...
when I posted my information (april, 7th), I was right...I played oldest game at that moment (started september, 5th, board #1086854 against optimist from Dutchables )... meanwhile optimist resigned this game (someone would remember my posting several months ago about double draw offer from optimist in this match<; one game was draw, but I won this one) ... and now, you're right kai_sim , oldest game is now Team match (started 08-Sep-03, 3 days per move) tkdman vs. clems
Best wishes, experimentator
p.s.
iamian lost another two games... :-(
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kai_sim
4/21/2004 05:17:26 [ report this post ] | thx experimentator
Message: for the info :)
regarding iamian, he emailed me that he had an emergency and is still not back. he has no more ongoing team matches and is on +1 points. It's kinda same thing like with chic_luc. he had no internet access at all for a long time and timed out in all his games. his rating fell down to the ground. when he came back, he got plenty of team matches and look at his rating and points now...
i have to addmit that i'm hoping, that the same thing will happen to iamian ;)
best regards
kai
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lordofthelings
4/21/2004 16:59:08 [ report this post ] | explanations
Message: Sorry for my absence, but I am in army now ( of course not in Iraq ;] ) .
I have decided not to waste time by 4 last games, because I havn't had much time and that games veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery hard to win and they have reguired maaaaaaaaaaany time.
I'm going to quit GK.
If I ever return here I will apply to ~~Lott~~.
I sometimes play fast games on FICS as SuperLama.
bye
--
lordofthelings
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lordofthelings
4/21/2004 17:34:45 [ report this post ] | again
Message: I know that no time is easy to say, but I have some priorites, some dutes.
3 days it's much time ( or many ?? ;] ), but in my situation it's not always comfortable - so I resigned from GK
Conversation between Kai and Flisz and Katrin was very funny ;))).
Now I am really going away.
Bye
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lordofthelings
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kai_sim
4/21/2004 18:22:16 [ report this post ] | we all
Message: wish you good luck for the future and appreciate everything you did for the team.
we hope that you'll enjoy the army and be able to help your country.
God bless you
~~L°ЯÐs Ǿf Tнê teªm§~~
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koogas
4/22/2004 06:05:14 [ report this post ] | ...
Message: gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=1560394&r=12
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v_glorioso12
4/22/2004 15:29:11 [ report this post ] | snap...
Message: i just forgot about the team forums... im usually the one who tells everyone "NOONES TALKING! PEOPLE TALK!" and stuff... :-S
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v_glorioso12
4/22/2004 17:23:59 [ report this post ] | were 3rd in team tbl in rating
Message: and real close to being in 2nd... then 1st isnt that far away...
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kai_sim
4/24/2004 02:01:18 [ report this post ] | getting closer now
Message: we are on place 2!
:))))
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chees
4/24/2004 03:24:09 [ report this post ] | It´s a close race
Message: between number 2 and 3. So we just have to hang on, and work on being number one :-).
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lordoftherings
4/25/2004 04:09:58 [ report this post ] | cool!
Message: rank 2 !!!
c u lordofthelings...thanks.
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kai_sim
4/27/2004 05:34:10 [ report this post ] | YAAAAHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO
Message:
W E
A R E
N U M B E R
O N E
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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experimentator
4/27/2004 22:40:28 [ report this post ] | YESSSSSSSSSS!
Message: We are still rising our rating. It's +15 wins in row now!
I'd like to get one more match till monday (if possible). I shall not be able to start any new games for a while (tournament will start then) after that.
Best wishes, experimentator
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chees
4/27/2004 22:56:27 [ report this post ] | Yes,
Message: we really are the best. Our next goal now will be to stay number one, and increase our rating further.
All the best to all of you
chees
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lordoftherings
4/29/2004 04:58:14 [ report this post ] | Bravo!
Message: Congratulations!!!
:-))
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kai_sim
4/29/2004 14:50:44 [ report this post ] | new posts
Message: here:
gameknot.com/fmsg/chess5/1623.shtml
see you there
kai
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