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chuckventimiglia 3/17/2004 12:32:40 [ report this post ]	Subject: Chuck's Knights 50 Message: Hello, Team! nelsonnewman 15/10/+5 Chuckventimiglia 7/16/9 Udow 8/0/+8 MacClassic 24/24/0 Raimon 11/12/1 Amicus 21/20/+1 PorkChop 6/8/2 Kumli 17/16/+1 Brankort 14/14/0 Coyotefan 15/10/+5 vac till 22 Marko656 13/14/1 Wissem 8/10/2 Buddie 13/12/+1 Naato88 14/14/0 Vandy 15/18/3 danh 3/6/3 vac till 3/26 fizteh 7/8/1 night_trap 5/6/1 Note: The most significant thing that has happened since the last Update is the change in the way teams are ranked. Very volatile!! Anyhow, I am trying to work with this new system. All I can say to you guys is take your time. Always play to win but remember that a Draw against a higher rated team earns points for the team. So if you have a sure Draw and a Win is difficult to see then offer the Draw. You can then free yourself for another team game and the Draw if it is accepted earns points for the team. That is if the team is higher rated than our team. :-] Recent Results: Alekhine Start Date:3/2/2004 Players: Game Status: kumli - bramster Going bramster - kumli Going vandy - nima_tal 1-0 nima_tal - vandy 1-0* * indicates new result Alekhine Start Date:3/8/2004 Players: Game Status: amicus - wimpyc Going wimpyc - amicus Going porkchop - beuki 0-1* beuki - porkchop 1-0* driver - fireice 0-1 fireice - driver 1-0 * indicates new result The_Burninators Start Date:3/11/2004 Players: Game Status: marko656 - mayor 1/2* mayor - marko656 1-0* porkchop - fitfugitive Going fitfugitive - porkchop Going * indicates new result The_Cynical_Cynics Start Date:2/23/2004 Players: Game Status: kumli - boki Going boki - kumli Going vandy - sdr46 1/2* sdr46 - vandy Going amicus - thewizardofchess Going thewizardofchess - amicus Going danh - cm2003 1-0 cm2003 - danh 1-0 * indicates new result For_USSR Start Date:2/13/2004 Players: Game Status: macclassic - neverless Going neverless - macclassic Going porkchop - vizigot 0-1* vizigot - porkchop 0-1 * indicates new result Global_Bounty_Hunters Start Date:2/25/2004 Players: Game Status: kumli - grandphish Going grandphish - kumli Going vandy - breakerofwind 1/2 breakerofwind - vandy 0-1* amicus - trond Going trond - amicus Going marko656 - terrabull 1-0* terrabull - marko656 Going * indicates new result The Highwind Start Date:2/13/2004 Players: Game Status: vandy - cjbarclay 0-1* cjbarclay - vandy Going driver - caguaman 1-0 caguaman74 - driver 0-1 * indicates new result The_Sneaky_Knight_Connection Start Date:2/26/2004 Players: Game Status: porkchop - dancingknights 1-0 dancingknights - porkchop 0-1 brankort - gothicgirl Going gothicgirl - brankort Going driver - badbadboy Going badbadboy - driver 1-0* * indicates new result VASK Start Date:3/3/2004 Players: Game Status: fizteh - acpro Going acpro - fizteh Going naato88 - coval Going coval - naato88 Going marko656 - kobbe 0-1 kobbe - marko656 1-0* * indicates new result WhiteBeltNinjas Start Date:2/19/2004 Players: Game Status: naato88 - eduardo_waghabi Going eduardo_waghabi - naato88 Going wissem - rumata 1-0* rumata - wissem 0-1 porkchop - obi1 1-0 obi1 - porkchop 0-1 night_trap - neo_fight 0-1 neo_fight - night_trap 1-0 * indicates new result
vandy 3/17/2004 16:20:35 [ report this post ]	Question Message: I've been out of town 2 days and our team ELO has fallen over 40 points! The only way I can see this happening is if our non-team games are somehow figured into the team ELO. Is this correct or not? I am just trying to understand the new system.
coyotefan 3/17/2004 23:06:38 [ report this post ]	Not at all Message: But just like your own ELO rating, if you lose 10 games, you can drop 40 points. It is a stupid system for team play.
coyotefan 3/17/2004 23:10:17 [ report this post ]	If you go to teams table Message: and click on our elo rating (we are now 86th) you can follow the progression. We lost three games yesterday and dropped from 1308 to 1282. It is crazy!!
chuckventimiglia 3/18/2004 06:05:25 [ report this post ]	Vandy, as Coyotefan said.... Message: your personal games have nothing to do with the team rating. In fact the team rating has nothing to do with our individual ratings. The only thing that affects the team rating is the other team's rating and how we do in each and every game against that team. So if we are playing a team with a higher rating and 1 single game ends it changes our team rating. If we have 8 boards in a specific match our team rating will change 8 times before that 1 match is over. I am therefore making sure we play teams equal to or preferably higher rated than us. That way our team stands to gain more points than we can lose. If our opposing team is higher rated a Draw will give the team + points. It is a very volatile system but I am trying to work with it. Hopefully, as we finish games against lower rated teams and the bulk of our matches are against higher rated we will see a positive change. I say hopefully. Just take your time with the games and go for a Win. Now it makes more sense to play less games but against higher rated teams. Quality over Quantity. In these matches you still will be paired against an equally rated opponent but the team's rating now comes into the mix.
chuckventimiglia 3/18/2004 07:08:56 [ report this post ]	Vandy and others!! Message: To maybe clarify how this "new" system works. I set up a match with a team that has a much higher rating. Say you [Vandy] are matched against a player whose individual rating is 200 points lower than yours. Then you Draw against that person. Your individual rating will drop as expected but the team will gain points because the other team's rating is higher than ours. Now is it clear? ;-]
wissem 3/18/2004 08:31:51 [ report this post ]	very clear!! Message: I personnally like this system! because of the quality of games.
vandy 3/18/2004 08:59:58 [ report this post ]	Clear Message: Thanks for the explanation.
chuckventimiglia 3/18/2004 15:58:20 [ report this post ]	Today we are #86, it will be.... Message: interesting to see where we are in the morning. ;-]
wissem 3/18/2004 22:52:54 [ report this post ]	we are now in 95!! Message: we have the more probability to catch teams better than our!
amicus 3/19/2004 00:12:45 [ report this post ]	Let´s be optimistic! Message: We are in 95th place now, but we are just 169 points away from 10th place which is our goal! We were just reaching there when they changed the system and I see no reason for us not to climb again. We will reach 10th place someday we just have to give it more time now! Have a nice time everyone! Sverrir
kumli 3/19/2004 03:41:04 [ report this post ]	Team rating Message: I think that we can play against lower rating teams if, and only if, we play also against lower rating players in that team. Then it would by a fear match. Have a nice games Kumli
chuckventimiglia 3/19/2004 06:14:23 [ report this post ]	I am optimistic!! :-] Message: I have been challenging teams with a higher rated than ours and for every Win or Draw we gain more points than we stand to lose if we Lose the game. Kumli your idea is a good one but the other team's captain will not allow us to play their lower rated players. :-] There are plenty of teams that are equally rated or better still higher rated that we can challenge or who challenge us. There is not a shortage. What I was suggesting is that now we do to need to play lots of games. We can play less games and we can spend more time with those games in the hopes of increasing our # wins. Also, if we Draw against a player from a higher rated team we will also gain points. So if you have a sure Draw and a possible Win it may be wise to offer the Draw if a way to Win is not so clear. We are still here and hopefully we will turn around again. Driver who is no longer on the team has been losing his games. Hopefully now his games are finished and that will be that. So, yes I am optimistic but a little discouraged also by the happenings of the past week or so.
wissem 3/19/2004 08:20:06 [ report this post ]	optimistic also! Message: look at our Team's Elo rating: 1270 and at the Average pl. rating: 1790 we must be better!!
chuckventimiglia 3/20/2004 06:06:09 [ report this post ]	Yes, but the individual's..... Message: Elo has almost nothing to do with the team Elo. Hard to explain but believe me they do not have anything to do with each other. Anyhow today we are in #47. We took a giant leap forward since yesterday. Let's see where we are tomorrow.
chuckventimiglia 3/20/2004 14:41:28 [ report this post ]	We have a match with..... Message: Scandinavian Team wissem (1849) dykker (1895) vandy (1677) berserker001 (1605) porkchop (1615) rocky (1577) Good luck!!
chuckventimiglia 3/20/2004 14:43:42 [ report this post ]	We have a match with..... Message: Alekhine vandy (1677) beuki (1716) porkchop (1615) helmutschmidt (1556) Good luck!!
fliszt 3/20/2004 14:55:45 [ report this post ]	Perhaps I can help you, Chuck . . . Message: Perhaps I can help you better understand the new, nonsensical team Elo rating system, Chuck. I am using your team thread, not as an intruder, but in an effort to help your excellent teammates also better comprehend the system. In essence, at best, it is a total crapshoot and here is why. The system not only uses the two teams' Elo's in the new rating calculation after each game, it uses the HIGHER of the two teams' ratings at the beginning of each team game and at the end of each team game. So, for example, if your player started a game against another player and your team was rated 1200 at the beginning of the game and the other player's team was rated 1300 you would think that would be a favorable situation for your team, wouldn't you? But, what if by the time the game ended, maybe a month later, your team was then rated 1400 but the opposing player's team was then rated 1200, the system would use your higher rating of 1400 and the opposing team's 1300, now not a favorable match for your team at all. So, trying to handpick team matches based on team Elo's is going to be pretty much a waste of time and effort. As you said earlier, with the team Elo's so volatile there is just no way at all to anticipate what the two teams' Elo's will be at the conclusion of a game, as opposed to what they were at the beginning. So, my advice would be to just go ahead and pick your team matches as you did in the past and not worry about the stupid, idiotic team Elo's. They are, in fact, entirely meaningless and I fully expect that in time so many team captains will get disgusted with them that Mike will be forced to change the team ranking system again to something else.
fliszt 3/20/2004 15:03:46 [ report this post ]	By the way . . . Message: Thank you for allowing me to visit your team forum. Your team is truly an excellent team and it a a pillar of the GameKnot team community, and your captain, Chuck Ventimiglia, is a valued friend and he is one of the best team captains on the site. You all are fortunate to have him as your captain.
chuckventimiglia 3/20/2004 15:08:14 [ report this post ]	Well, I guess you are..... Message: right about this but there is 1 good thing about this new, stupid & idiotic system. That is we do not have to play a big bunch of games to compete. Makes no difference anymore how many wins you get, what makes the difference is the team rating. Your team rating can go up with just a few wins at a time. No need to be playing 260 team games as we were doing. Yes, I do hope they come to some reasonable formula but until then all we can do is cope with what we have.
vandy 3/20/2004 17:31:59 [ report this post ]	Thank you, fliszt... Message: for your excellent explanation. If using the higher team ELO (start of match vs end) is true, and I am NOT questioning that it is, then a senseless system becomes even more senseless -- if that is even possible!
coyotefan 3/20/2004 22:28:32 [ report this post ]	If Mike's goal is to reduce stress on GK server Message: This system will work. Just like changing the membership rates/games that can be played, Mike is trying to force everyone play less games.
chuckventimiglia 3/21/2004 08:21:01 [ report this post ]	Today we are in #44. Message: I will have an Update out tomorrow. Keep doing what you are doing and enjoy the competition of playing chess.
chuckventimiglia 3/21/2004 15:17:07 [ report this post ]	UPDATE!!!! Message: Hello, Team! nelsonnewman 14/10/+4 Chuckventimiglia 6/16/9 Udow 8/0/+8 MacClassic 22/10/+12 Raimon 11/12/1 Amicus 17/20/3 PorkChop 7/8/1 Kumli 17/16/+1 Brankort 14/14/0 Coyotefan 13/10/+3 Marko656 12/14/1 Wissem 9/10/1 Buddie 12/12/0 Naato88 14/14/0 Vandy 17/18/1 danh 3/6/3 vac till 3/26 fizteh 7/8/1 night_trap 5/6/1 Note: Hello everybody!! We are still here and competing. The new system is different but allows us to play less games if we want and gives us a break when and if we need it. I do not think this is a good system but it is what we have right now and we will try to work with it. Recent Results: The_black_knights Start Date:1/27/2004 Players: Game Status: wissem - robberto 0-1 robberto - wissem 1-0 amicus - ramblin_man 1/2* ramblin_man - amicus 1-0 night_trap - gibus 1-0 gibus - night_trap 1/2 * indicates new result This match is over!! 2-4 The_Burninators Start Date:2/15/2004 Players: Game Status: vandy - thebomb 1-0* thebomb - vandy 1-0 driver - crazycanuck 1-0 crazycanuck - driver 1-0 * indicates new result This match is over!! 2-2 Split The_Cynical_Cynics Start Date:2/23/2004 Players: Game Status: kumli - boki Going boki - kumli Going vandy - sdr46 1/2 sdr46 - vandy 0-1* amicus - thewizardofchess 1-0* thewizardofchess - amicus 0-1* danh - cm2003 1-0 cm2003 - danh 1-0 * indicates new result Global_Bounty_Hunters Start Date:1/6/2004 Players: Game Status: porkchop - trond 0-1 trond - porkchop 1/2 brankort - vesa Going vesa - brankort Going amicus - ctrl-reset 1-0 ctrl-reset - amicus 0-1 coyotefan - valdevino 1-0 valdevino - coyotefan 0-1* * indicates new result Je_maintiendrai Start Date:2/4/2004 Players: Game Status: chuckventimiglia - nimzow 1/2* nimzow - chuckventimiglia 1-0 naato88 - cejot1986 Going cejot1986 - naato88 Going kumli - goofy 1/2 goofy - kumli 1-0 buddie - palermo Going palermo - buddie 0-1 porkchop - prophecy 1-0 prophecy - porkchop 1-0 * indicates new result Methodical_Knights Start Date:3/14/2004 Players: Game Status: chuckventimiglia - quixote Going quixote - chuckventimiglia Going wissem - johnny-g Going johnny-g - wissem Going porkchop - bigbreakout 1/2* bigbreakout - porkchop 0-1* * indicates new result Nebraska_Knights Start Date:1/6/2004 Players: Game Status: porkchop - scratchyboy 1/2 scratchyboy - porkchop 1/2 coyotefan - adams 1-0* adams - coyotefan Going * indicates new result Nebraska_Knights Start Date:2/24/2004 Players: Game Status: buddie - drexel 1-0 drexel - buddie 1-0* driver - jhwinfrey 0-1 jhwinfrey - driver 1/2 * indicates new result This match is over!! 1.5-2.5 Phoenix_Rising Start Date:1/8/2004 Players: Game Status: macclassic - fliszt 0-1* fliszt - macclassic 1-0 buddie - verclo 1-0 verclo - buddie 1/2 * indicates new result This match is over!! 1.5-2.5 Poland Start Date:11/17/2003 Players: Game Status: macclassic - puchu 1/2 puchu - macclassic 1/2 chuckventimiglia - felixmiszta 1-0 felixmiszta - chuckventimiglia 1/2 nelsonnewman - omegamv6 0-1* udow - chrishanaj 1-0 chrishanaj - udow 0-1 omegamv6 - nelsonnewman 1/2 buddie - mszak 0-1 mszak - buddie 1-0 * indicates new result This match is over!! 5-5 Split Rollin_Stoned Start Date:3/16/2004 Players: Game Status: amicus - smchawk Going smchawk - amicus 0-1* marko656 - bunny69 Going bunny69 - marko656 Going * indicates new result Sinergia2003 Start Date:11/26/2003 Players: Game Status: macclassic - upsala 0-1* upsala - macclassic Going udow - eralos 0-1 eralos - udow 1/2 kumli - rhungaski 1/2 rhungaski - kumli 1-0 buddie - jvaljean 1/2 jvaljean - buddie 1-0 * indicates new result The_Sneaky_Knight_Connection Start Date:2/26/2004 Players: Game Status: porkchop - dancingknights 1-0 dancingknights - porkchop 0-1 brankort - gothicgirl Going gothicgirl - brankort Going driver - badbadboy 0-1* badbadboy - driver 1-0 * indicates new result The_Sneaky_Knight_Connection Start Date:3/1/2004 Players: Game Status: wissem - fixxxer Going fixxxer - wissem 0-1* vandy - gothicgirl 1-0 gothicgirl - vandy 0-1 driver - cpocf 0-1 cpocf - driver 1-0 * indicates new result Toccata Start Date:2/20/2004 Players: Game Status: porkchop - flemming Going flemming - porkchop 0-1* driver - mousehound 0-1 mousehound - driver 1-0 danh - sergeant-major 0-1 sergeant-major - danh 1/2 * indicates new result
chuckventimiglia 3/22/2004 08:34:06 [ report this post ]	We are in #38 today!!!! Message: Yeah!!!! :-]
wissem 3/22/2004 08:52:21 [ report this post ]	a new result! Message: The_Sneaky_Knight_Connection wissem - fixxxer 1-0 we win the match 4-2
chuckventimiglia 3/22/2004 09:50:40 [ report this post ]	Yes, I have that on my records... Message: and it will be posted Wed with the next Update. ;-]
vandy 3/23/2004 06:12:47 [ report this post ]	#24 today! Message: Looking better...until???
chuckventimiglia 3/23/2004 06:22:20 [ report this post ]	Yes, today we are #24!! Message: Tomorrow who knows. All we can do is keep trying to Win but at least Draw. This system is very volatile and we go up and down quite rapidly. Just do our best as always!!
chuckventimiglia 3/23/2004 11:26:51 [ report this post ]	We have a match with..... Message: id=DER_GABEL buddie (1744) chessstar (1722) vandy (1705) der_22 (1662) marko656 (1510) ptitz (1611) Good luck!!
chuckventimiglia 3/24/2004 05:45:03 [ report this post ]	Today we are in #22. Our .... Message: team rating is climbing so we are climbing. This new system, although not a good one, is all we have to work with. I am trying to work with it. Too bad it seems to be taking it's toll on some of our people. Not only our people but teams and people throughout GK are abandoning teams and leaving team play. All I can say is those are personal decisions and I wish them all luck. For us we will continue to try to play and compete. I have asked some of our people to lower their game maximums if they wanted to. Now there is less need for large quantities of games but ever Win and Draw counts more than they did before because of the volatility of this new system.
chuckventimiglia 3/24/2004 05:49:14 [ report this post ]	We have a match with..... Message: Outback chess chuckventimiglia (2115) seneca54 (2089) wissem (1856) msinisa (1854) amicus (1644) pantoja (1671) porkchop (1615) icefox (1605) marko656 (1510) dutchgrasseii (1525) Good luck!!
chuckventimiglia 3/24/2004 15:16:49 [ report this post ]	UPDATE!!! Message: Hello, Team! nelsonnewman 14/10/+4 Chuckventimiglia 8/10/2 Udow 8/0/+8 MacClassic 21/10/+11 Raimon 11/12/1 Amicus 16/20/4 PorkChop 9/8/+1 Kumli 17/16/+1 Brankort 14/14/0 Coyotefan 13/10/+3 Marko656 13/14/1 Wissem 10/10/0 Buddie 13/12/+1 Naato88 14/14/0 Vandy 16/18/2 danh 3/6/3 vac till 3/26 fizteh 7/8/1 night_trap 5/6/1 Note: Today we are in #22 by the new system. We will continue to work with it. We have been steadily moving up over the past few days. It is not a good system but this is what we are left to work with. The idea is Winning games and for me to utilize some imagination when getting matches. Let's see how we do. The worst part of this new system is the effect it is having on some of the membership. Today coyotefan announced he was leaving GK. I have also received notes from other players and team captains that are either quitting team play, giving up their teams or both. Hopefully coyotefan will reconsider but if he does not I fully understand why. For us, we continue to play and move into position that truly reflects our chess strength. The top 10 has always been my goal and it still is but itis more difficult now and once there it is difficult to remain but let's give it a try. Recent Results: Alekhine Start Date:3/11/2004 Players: Game Status: buddie - mart007 Going mart007 - buddie Going amicus - nima_tal 0-1* nima_tal - amicus Going * indicates new result Finland - Suomi Start Date:3/4/2004 Players: Game Status: chuckventimiglia - ramarao Going ramarao - chuckventimiglia Going kumli - noonoo Going noonoo - kumli Going buddie - woelfchen 0-1 woelfchen - buddie 1-0 vandy - heikki 1-0* heikki - vandy 0-1* danh - vahann-1 Going vahann-1 - danh 0-1 * indicates new result Global_Bounty_Hunters Start Date:2/25/2004 Players: Game Status: kumli - grandphish Going grandphish - kumli Going vandy - breakerofwind 1/2 breakerofwind - vandy 0-1 amicus - trond 1-0* trond - amicus Going marko656 - terrabull 1-0 terrabull - marko656 Going * indicates new result Je_maintiendrai Start Date:2/4/2004 Players: Game Status: chuckventimiglia - nimzow 1/2 nimzow - chuckventimiglia 1-0 naato88 - cejot1986 Going cejot1986 - naato88 Going kumli - goofy 1/2 goofy - kumli 1-0 buddie - palermo 1-0* palermo - buddie 0-1 porkchop - prophecy 1-0 prophecy - porkchop 1-0 * indicates new result Methodical_Knights Start Date:2/7/2004 Players: Game Status: chuckventimiglia - jh13 Going jh13 - chuckventimiglia Going macclassic - skipslot Going skipslot - macclassic 1/2* kumli - fireknight Going fireknight - kumli Going * indicates new result Rollin_Stoned Start Date:3/16/2004 Players: Game Status: amicus - smchawk 1-0* smchawk - amicus 0-1 marko656 - bunny69 1-0* bunny69 - marko656 0-1* * indicates new result This match is over!! 4-0 Great!! Sinergia2003 Start Date:11/3/2003 Players: Game Status: amicus - hiperroca 1/2 hiperroca - amicus 0-1 porkchop - elpotro 1-0 elpotro - porkchop 1/2 marko656 - warlock 0-1 warlock - marko656 1-0* vandy - gm_paz 1-0 gm_paz - vandy 0-1 * indicates new result This match is over!! 5-3 The_Sneaky_Knight_Connection Start Date:3/1/2004 Players: Game Status: wissem - fixxxer 1-0* fixxxer - wissem 0-1 vandy - gothicgirl 1-0 gothicgirl - vandy 0-1 driver - cpocf 0-1 cpocf - driver 1-0 * indicates new result This match is over!! 4-2 Vietnamese Start Date:3/8/2004 Players: Game Status: vandy - nhaanx 1-0* nhaanx - vandy Going night_trap - pantherson Going pantherson - night_trap Going * indicates new result
amicus 3/24/2004 23:40:16 [ report this post ]	We are number 18 ... Message: as far as I can see. That´s not bad at all! Have a nice time! Sverrir
chuckventimiglia 3/25/2004 07:00:49 [ report this post ]	Yes, today we are #18. Message: Still climbing in the ranks but we need some Wins or Draws today because we have started the day out on a few losses. No biggee!! The Wins will come. :-]
chuckventimiglia 3/26/2004 09:06:08 [ report this post ]	Today we are #35!! :-] Message: We dropped 18 positions overnight. Tomorrow we may get them back. :-] Take your time with your games and just do your best as always. We started today on the positive side so maybe tomorrow will be a better day.
raimon 3/26/2004 21:22:32 [ report this post ]	congrats to vandy Message: on reaching #1 well done - great effort! Regards to all the team, Ray
vandy 3/27/2004 06:59:01 [ report this post ]	Thanks Message: I'll take the wins while I can get them.
chuckventimiglia 3/27/2004 07:20:53 [ report this post ]	Today we are #24..... Message: let's keep it going in an up direction.
chuckventimiglia 3/27/2004 09:08:51 [ report this post ]	We have a match with.... Message: The Sneaky Knight Connection vandy (1726) biggie (1775) amicus (1644) gothicgirl (1630) Good luck!!
buddie 3/27/2004 14:36:43 [ report this post ]	100 up ! Message: Hi, guys. I've now finished 100 games for the team. My score is +5 - I shall try do equal or better than that in the next 100. Of course with the old system you knew that +5 was good, with the new system who knows ?? All the best, Alan
chuckventimiglia 3/27/2004 17:29:38 [ report this post ]	We have a match with.... Message: Knights of the 65thsquare amicus (1644) harmlessdutchie (1602) night_trap (1469) ra1967m (1414) Good luck!!
chuckventimiglia 3/27/2004 17:30:48 [ report this post ]	Congrats Alan!! Message: New system old system?? By the old system we are #11 today. :-/
brankort 3/28/2004 08:26:14 [ report this post ]	congrats.. Message: to both Vandy and Buddie! The system is out of our control. We just have to do the best we can. I apologize for the slowness of my results but i make moves usually every other day. In 2 games i have rushed somewhat and now i have to play to not lose:( . The match-ups that chuck makes are excellent. Whether i win or lose, all my games press me to the limit and i am learning with every game. Now if the lessons would just stick:). Good luck to all here and most importantly, have fun!!
chuckventimiglia 3/28/2004 13:19:28 [ report this post ]	UPDATE!!!! Message: Hello, Team! nelsonnewman 12/10/+2 Chuckventimiglia 7/10/3 Udow 8/0/+8 MacClassic 20/10/+10 Raimon 11/12/1 Amicus 20/20/0 PorkChop 7/8/1 Kumli 16/16/0 Brankort 14/14/0 Coyotefan 11/10/+1 Marko656 8/14/6 Wissem 10/10/0 Buddie 11/12/0 Naato88 14/14/0 Vandy 15/18/3 danh 0/6/6 will let me know fizteh 7/8/1 night_trap 7/6/+1 Note: Nothing much to report other than Roland might be back soon. The team is doing as well as can be expected. We are winning and drawing more than we are losing so that marks an upward trend. Good going!! Recent Results: Alekhine Start Date:3/2/2004 Players: Game Status: kumli - bramster Going bramster - kumli 1/2* vandy - nima_tal 1-0 nima_tal - vandy 1-0 * indicates new result Alekhine Start Date:3/11/2004 Players: Game Status: buddie - mart007 Going mart007 - buddie 1/2* amicus - nima_tal 0-1 nima_tal - amicus Going * indicates new result Alekhine Start Date:3/20/2004 Players: Game Status: vandy - beuki Going beuki - vandy Going porkchop - helmutschmidt 1/2* helmutschmidt - porkchop 1-0* * indicates new result Atlanta_House_of_Pain Start Date:2/28/2004 Players: Game Status: marko656 - grabar 1-0* grabar - marko656 0-1 danh - gastanf 0-1 gastanf - danh 1-0 * indicates new result This match is over!! 2-2 DER_GABEL Start Date:2/25/2004 Players: Game Status: buddie - chessstar Going chessstar - buddie 0-1* amicus - ptitz 1-0 ptitz - amicus 0-1 * indicates new result DER_GABEL Start Date:3/23/2004 Players: Game Status: buddie - chessstar Going chessstar - buddie Going vandy - der_22 Going der_22 - vandy Going marko656 - ptitz 1-0* ptitz - marko656 1-0* * indicates new result Finland - Suomi Start Date:3/4/2004 Players: Game Status: chuckventimiglia - ramarao 1/2* ramarao - chuckventimiglia Going kumli - noonoo Going noonoo - kumli Going buddie - woelfchen 0-1 woelfchen - buddie 1-0 vandy - heikki 1-0 heikki - vandy 0-1 danh - vahann-1 0-1* vahann-1 - danh 0-1 * indicates new result For_USSR Start Date:2/13/2004 Players: Game Status: macclassic - neverless Going neverless - macclassic 1-0* porkchop - vizigot 0-1 vizigot - porkchop 0-1 * indicates new result The Highwind Start Date:2/13/2004 Players: Game Status: vandy - cjbarclay 0-1 cjbarclay - vandy 1-0* driver - caguaman 1-0 caguaman74 - driver 0-1 * indicates new result This match is over!! 2-2 Lord_of_the_Teams Start Date:12/4/2003 Players: Game Status: chuckventimiglia - clems 1/2 clems - chuckventimiglia 1-0 macclassic - ken1 0-1 ken1 - macclassic 1/2 nelsonnewman - experimentator 1/2 experimentator - nelsonnewman 1-0* udow - mvathr 0-1 mvathr - udow 1/2 wissem - frodan 1-0 frodan - wissem 0-1 driver - v_glorioso12 0-1 v_glorioso12 - driver 1-0 danh - koogas 1-0 koogas - danh 0-1 * indicates new result This match is over!! 6-8 Methodical_Knights Start Date:12/25/2003 Players: Game Status: fizteh - skipslot Going skipslot - fizteh 1-0 raimon - quixote 1/2 quixote - raimon Going porkchop - johnny-g 0-1 johnny-g - porkchop 1-0 amicus - robert19 Going robert19 - amicus 1/2 coyotefan - bigbreakout Going bigbreakout - coyotefan 1/2* * indicates new result Methodical_Knights Start Date:12/31/2003 Players: Game Status: nelsonnewman - skipslot Going skipslot - nelsonnewman Going vandy - bigbreakout 0-1 bigbreakout - vandy 1-0 coyotefan - robert19 1-0* robert19 - coyotefan Going * indicates new result New_York_Lovers Start Date:3/8/2004 Players: Game Status: naato88 - rodentking Going rodentking - naato88 Going porkchop - mariofgr 1-0 mariofgr - porkchop 1-0 danh - mr_vicblonde 0-1* mr_vicblonde - danh 1-0* * indicates new result Night_Fever Start Date:11/8/2003 Players: Game Status: amicus - easyluv 0-1 easyluv - amicus 1/2 brankort - charit_king 1-0 charit_king - brankort 0-1 coyotefan - nomee 1-0 nomee - coyotefan 0-1 macclassic - amigic Going amigic - macclassic Going nelsonnewman - snake007 1-0* snake007 - nelsonnewman 1-0 coyotefan - zazie 1-0 zazie - coyotefan 0-1 * indicates new result Outback_chess Start Date:2/29/2004 Players: Game Status: udow - msinisa Going msinisa - udow Going wissem - muek54 1-0 muek54 - wissem 0-1 vandy - pawn2q8 1-0* pawn2q8 - vandy 0-1* danh - bmuir 1-0 bmuir - danh 1-0 driver - benigigli 0-1 benigigli - driver 1-0 * indicates new result Outback_chess Start Date: Players: Game Status: chuckventimiglia - seneca54 Going seneca54 - chuckventimiglia Going wissem - msinisa Going msinisa - wissem Going amicus - pantoja Going pantoja - amicus Going porkchop - icefox Going icefox - porkchop Going marko656 - dutchgrasseii 1-0* dutchgrasseii - marko656 0-1* * indicates new result
chuckventimiglia 3/29/2004 06:09:32 [ report this post ]	We are #21 today. Message: Let's keep it moving upward.
chuckventimiglia 3/29/2004 15:02:03 [ report this post ]	Time to start a new thread!!! Message: Do not post here any longer. Go to Chuck's Knights 51. Do not post here!!
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