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abegtrup
9/16/2004
21:28:52
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 Subject: Pawntification:WHITE
Message:
"Pawntification - Chess by Committee" board #2180346
This shall be home to the docile "White Alliance", governed by apastpawn. Here the
philosphies of the ages shall riddle off discourse, as to the wishful downfall of Social Dude's
(abegtrup) "Black Pack", as the 3rd official MT of the Pawn Stars commences!
Notice:
This is an attempt to place two of our higher ranking
players against each other under public scrutiny, hopefully
providing an interactive learning experience for everyone.
All at GK are welcome, but be forewarned, we, the Pawn
Stars, are a bit eccentric, so if you are use to a
dry, formal discussion, this may be a bit too much for
you...
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apastpawn
9/16/2004
21:47:24
[ report this post ] | Okay, let the game begin
Message:
What will it be, trusted "White Warrior" alliance? Shall we begin with ( e4 ) or would anyone care to research Social Dudes weaknesses in the openings. He has an impressive win/loss record. I'm open to suggestions. Any favorite openings out there?
Let me apologize up front. I may not be as weird, excuse me, I mean demented as abegtrup, its the medication you understand. It keeps my thoughts subdued. Tell abegtup I could give him a name of a good shrink.
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pandemona
9/17/2004
00:52:22
[ report this post ] | e4, e4, e4...
Message:
Ok, Abeg beat me up in the intermural tourney so it's time for some revenge. >:D
1.e4 afficionado here! :) Plus it seems from looking over abeg's games that his repetoire response here is 1...e5 and that his preparation for the king's gambit 2.f4 is less than sharp! ;) (various counter-gambits, declined variations, fischer variation etc. but not the dangerous bayonet lines)
So I recommend 1.e4 e5 (if played) 2.f4 and see where we go from here. If he avoids King's Gambit with 1...c5 or similar then we already have him in different territory and the advantage is already ours!
Alternatively if you're not the sort of player who goes for blazing tactics (Why do you play 1.e4 then? :p) then I've seen him play into a disadvantagous opening after white plays the Vienna: 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 d6? and white can play 4.d4 with a good game. But he's also gone for the 4 knights from this position so I don't think that his repetoire here has quite settled!
Don't worry I'm sure the weirdness will be forthcoming, this is a Pawn Stars forum after all. ;)
~ Stephen / pandemona
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pawncrusader
9/17/2004
12:04:11
[ report this post ] | I choose...
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I'm a black Night, so, I will join the powerfull forces of the Dark. This will be the first and last time I'll come to this forum. <well, not really. By the end of the battle I'll come for a few laughters on your ridiculous plans>
Beware! You'll soon be on our knees, begging for mercy.
The PawnCrusader
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gru88y
9/18/2004
04:50:13
[ report this post ] | as requested...
Message:
...i'm in the white team.
Panda, you are 100% right with e4 vienna fischer gubbins and it is just what Abeg is expecting.
So I suggest a bit of English just to confuse him. 1.g1 d5 2.Bf2 e5 3. Nf3 and he will never go for
e4 cos he is nasty like that. That will give him the upper hand, the centre of the board etc, then
we sit back, sacrifice a zebra to the gods and hope that he times out.
better make it a standard e4 opening
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pandemona
9/21/2004
05:16:06
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Certainly, 1.g1 would plunge him into abject confusion... 2.Bf2 is also a subtle move! But unfortunately the rules of GK do not allow for such an advanced style of play. ;)
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apastpawn
9/21/2004
08:33:06
[ report this post ] | Panda
Message:
Your right about the King's Gambit, He does dislike it. Been eavesdropping in there forum. Can't help myself. Will wait for their reply before I conjecture further. Remember there is a team of players with Abegtrup making the final decision.
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gru88y
9/21/2004
23:55:23
[ report this post ] | *gggg*
Message:
2. Bf2 is a perfectly acceptable move down our way. we just move the pawn down a bit. Not so
good in a end game as you have two fat pawns on white, and mine's with extra mayo.
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abegtrup
9/22/2004
22:01:24
[ report this post ] | Have at...
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Our first counter-move has been made... e5
(It only took us two days, and seven minds, to screw in that lightbulb!)
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pandemona
9/23/2004
02:46:14
[ report this post ] | 2.Nf3
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... has my vote. If we can cast multiple votes I'll put my second preference as 2.f4 but I would prefer Nf3. ;) (2.Nf3 is my repetoire response and is what I know...)
~ S/p
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jeffreydot
9/23/2004
02:51:35
[ report this post ] | If I may...
Message:
...cast my vote on the king's gambit. One that I havn't been given, nor been man enough to play thus far. I am interested to see how you experts would play it.
Jeff
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gru88y
9/23/2004
04:31:42
[ report this post ] | me want...
Message:
...Nf3 too please
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pandemona
9/23/2004
04:54:58
[ report this post ] | jeffreydot
Message:
Even if we do play the KG, you might still find yourself waiting to see it played by "experts". ;) Suggest if you're interested that you take a look at the mini-tournaments list... there's usually at least one or two mini-tourneys themed around the KG (or sub-variations thereof) at any one time. It's a popular opening because it leads to a hard struggle from both sides. :)
If I had the time I'd get you some links but I'm sure you'll dig up a fair number just browsing through the list. And if that fails, there's always past tourneys!
You could even join one of the tourneys. Maybe you'll find the KG "floats your boat"... ;)
~ Stephen / pandemona
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leo_london
9/23/2004
06:03:05
[ report this post ] | 2..Bc4
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seems favourite based on apastpawn's previous games..Nf3 will do though. Whatever you play will be futile against our black brains trust.
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pandemona
9/23/2004
06:15:26
[ report this post ] | Bishop's Opening
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Never been so fond of the bishop's opening complex myself. It's full of beautiful traps and gambits, no doubt, but if Black survives the opening he doesn't seem to find himself in quite such choiceless positions as after the Spanish Torture beginning 2.Nf3 Nc6... >:D He has more chance for counterplay and we can't be allowing that, now, can we? O:-)
Boss, gru88y, if you fancy 2.Bc4, I'm right with ya. When I get home (maybe bext week some time) I've got some analysis of interesting gambit lines in this opening which I'm happy to share (though I won't be printing it out in this forum, mwa ha, sharing tactical lines and traps in the opening defeats their point. We three can swap it via messages until the game is done :p) But I'm sticking with 2.Nf3 for my vote! Definitely my preference. :D
~ s/p
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gru88y
9/23/2004
08:38:12
[ report this post ] | I must say...
Message:
I had thought the 'black backsliders' would have tried to open with e6 just for a lark.
shame.
2.Bc4, ... that's the fat pawn parallel with the little pawn? I don't like to move my fat pawns
before the horsey/cow they are holding hands with. They will either come back with Bc5, Nf6 or
the the old favourite d6. (which is a total folly, but the sort of bluff Abeg would go for.)
There again a camel is a horse designed by committee, so I'm still for 2.Nf3
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pandemona
9/23/2004
09:13:14
[ report this post ] | oops
Message:
Sorry, gru88y's post makes me painfully aware that perhaps I'm using the wrong notation to suggest my moves. By the archaic "2.Nf3" I am of course suggesting that we play King Cow to King Fat Prawn Three (Camel Step).
Apologies for any confusion my typographical errors may have caused...
~ Stephen / pandemona
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abegtrup
9/23/2004
11:48:06
[ report this post ] | White Warrior Alliance Private Forum
Message:
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Anyone can post to the forum (even the Black Pack), by sending email to
whitewarriorsalliance@yahoogroups.com, or by visiting the yahoo website. However, only the
Alliance members will be able to review the posts (via email, or by visiting the website).
Hopefully this will allow both teams to communicate freely and securely AND allow us to keep
the records for prosperity's sake!
I am the owner of the group at present. As soon as apastpawn, gru88y, or even
pandemona, signup, I will transfer ownership and moderation privileges. Wouldn't do to
have the oppositions leader snooping around with unlimited access, now would it?! =)
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abegtrup
9/23/2004
11:50:24
[ report this post ] | If you want to try taunting us...
Message:
You can reach the Black Pack at:
games.groups.yahoo.com/group/blackpack/
We accept turncoats, spies and traitors, 24/7. =)
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apastpawn
9/23/2004
15:38:51
[ report this post ] | You guys have been busy.
Message:
I appreciate all the noise. Finally we are talking. Thought this was going to be a lonely forum thread. Even Admiral Jeffery was courteous here. My usual responce to 1.e4,e5 is indeed Nf3 only because it can transition to many openings ie: Italian game, Guico Piano, Bishops openings, and Scotch openings. My recent tendency is to the Scotch Gambit. 2.Nf3, Nc3 3.d4, e4xd4 (the best reply) 4.Bc4
This may please almost everyone as their is Nf3 their and Bc4 also. but no f4 at least not yet. Indeed the pawn is sacrificed but it is usually returned later by Qxd4 and the idea is for the superior developement and intiative.
Anymore ideas. No hypermodern/fiachetto plans?
I'll try out that yahoo thing above.
apastpawn aka-Wayne
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pandemona
9/24/2004
00:24:16
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Pssch, leave the hypermodern stuff to Black. White has the right to advantage and pressure now, not in 10 moves time!
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gru88y
9/24/2004
16:41:17
[ report this post ] | i like the idea...
Message:
... of the Scotch Gambit, but that will come later.
Please sir can we make our second move now? I want to watch the black back sliders fill up their
forum with dribble.
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leo_london
9/24/2004
17:05:25
[ report this post ] | Scotch Gambit ?
Message:
does that involve a " Glasgow Kiss " ?... things are getting rough around here.
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gru88y
9/24/2004
19:52:01
[ report this post ] | "can your mom sew?
Message:
then stitch this.."
Yosser Hughes
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leo_london
9/25/2004
05:23:31
[ report this post ] | gru88y
Message:
ya a weegie yersel ? ya soond a tap stoater, bett'r th'n tha bunch o navy midgie rakers. Tha p'wn stars are pure berry, give anyone a rammie.
GK..nothing "too" insulting there..honest. "Train spotting" fans will confirm.
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abegtrup
9/27/2004
12:31:29
[ report this post ] | Yeah, what he said...
Message:
What leo_london is trying to say is, YOUR TURN!
We've just sent you a zinger.... let's see what you do with it. =)
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 f5
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gru88y
9/28/2004
00:38:31
[ report this post ] | leo
Message:
er yes, quite old bean...
f5
F5
is that be best you can do?
Well then it is cow jumps on the farmer for me (3.Nxe5 to you purists)
btw the germans call a pawn a Bauer.
i thanky you
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abegtrup
10/01/2004
10:25:49
[ report this post ] | 3. Nxe5 Qf6
Message:
Your turn white.
Sorry for the delay. My Black Pack had the discussion and choice all ready within moments of your move - I just happened not to have noticed. [On travel - hard to find the online access.]
Good luck guys - you'll need it.
Hail Black Pack!
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abegtrup
10/06/2004
07:58:26
[ report this post ] | 4. Nc4 fxe4
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It's a pawn eat pawn world...
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gru88y
10/06/2004
21:36:34
[ report this post ] | What????
Message:
It ain't no pawn eats pawn world. it is a gg eats you all up and then writes the biography while
mopping up your gravy with a bit of crusty bread, type world.
And we all know what that means.
gg jumps farmer and sits like an inversed Templar (an obscure one for those of you with the time
to work it out)
Wayne make it so.
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apastpawn
10/07/2004
19:27:13
[ report this post ] | Go Gru
Message:
You tell em !!! Guess Graham is our official in your face, take no bull spokesperson.
Hate to see what flows forth if we ever do a really good move.
apastpawn
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abegtrup
10/10/2004
09:17:21
[ report this post ] | 5. Nc3 Qf7
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Ready to resign yet? =)
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gru88y
10/11/2004
00:46:02
[ report this post ] | oh me got a title :)
Message:
Qf7! What kind of some wet nursie move is that? Resign? What sort of bozos do you take us for?
I suggest
6.Qh5
for our next move.
Last thing the bally Hun will be expecting
Yours
General Sir Anthony Hogmanay Melchett
Baaaaa
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apastpawn
10/12/2004
10:08:36
[ report this post ] | move #6 for white
Message:
N to e3 it is.
This puts a double guard on d5, blockades the e pawn, and leaves the e pawn threatened.
Moved the Knight 4 times now in the opening, The Latvian calls for appropriate measures. To heck with old school chess rules. Rules are meant to be broken as needed. Besides, the Latvian was not around when the rules were made.
apastpawn
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apastpawn
10/17/2004
12:48:33
[ report this post ] | Waiting and Waiting and Waiting and
Message:
Guess they have come to the end of their BOOK moves and it is taking some time to be creative without a database or book to help.
Another speculative opening rebuffed by good development and counterplay.
Now we transition into the middlegame, time for tactics and more tactics.
It's Sunday and time for them to move, P L E A S E
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abegtrup
10/19/2004
17:00:53
[ report this post ] | 6. Ne3 Nf6
Message:
Hey, I'm not one for speed reading... it took me forever to make it through all the wonderful
suggestions my team made! Of course, I ignored them all, but that's the way dictatorships
usually function...
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apastpawn
10/20/2004
17:08:45
[ report this post ] | 7.Bc4
Message:
Yup, thats our latest Latvian Vanguisher move. Hope you don't mind finding a better spot for your Latvian Lady. There is such a thing - right?
For all of you following the game. @@@@ WAKE UP @@@@
Now that I have your full attention. This move forces the queen to move yet again. Seem to recall a quip about moving your queen early in the opening and being harrassed. Of couse you could block with d5 if you don't have a need for the pawn.
We develope yet another minor piece. Lets count, thats three and lets see, Oh ya! one for black. Plus the good Ole Bishop is knocking at your back door (f7), which seems to be open.
Oh! and you can't castle for awhile.
Other than that, life is great as a Latvian.
WWA
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pawncrusader
10/20/2004
18:09:50
[ report this post ] | Mathematics
Message:
Hey Apastpawn, you have to learn how to count. I see 2 developed pieces. And one of them has the value of 2 or 3. More, we also have an outpost on e4.
<grins>
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apastpawn
10/20/2004
19:16:32
[ report this post ] | Read carefully!
Message:
Thats MINOR pieces developed. The last time I checked the Queen was not minor.
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abegtrup
10/20/2004
20:37:46
[ report this post ] | to back my fellow, pawncrusader...
Message:
The human heart likes a little disorder in its geometry.
- Louis de Bernieres, Corelli's Mandolin
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pandemona
11/19/2004
06:47:00
[ report this post ] |
Message:
Is this starting up again any time soon...? :)
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apastpawn
11/24/2004
18:58:33
[ report this post ] | Whats up?
Message:
Abegtrup, thought you were gonna move soon after rounding up the pack.
Its bad enough you caught back up to me in team ELO standings. Its now santachess and that new guy zulu-zipper we need to watch out for as both are undefeated and rising.
Your move
The Latvian Vanguisher Society.
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abegtrup
11/25/2004
21:29:08
[ report this post ] | All looks good from here...
Message:
1968 abegtrup
1967 apastpawn
1942 leo_london
1893 santachess
1858 pawncrusader
1856 zulu-zipper
1754 gru88y
You know all I did was past a pawn up in the rankings... =) har-dee har har...
Heck, the only thing I see that's at all troubling in those rankings, is who's gonna recruit z-z
first... the dark-side or the white weenies. And I call dibs! =P
In all seriousness, the in-laws are leaving tomorrow and I'll finally have a chance to breathe,
and read through the notes that the black pack has left waiting for me...
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abegtrup
12/02/2004
07:18:25
[ report this post ] | Come on already...
Message:
Our move has been posted for over five minutes now... are we ever gonna see a move by you
white washouts?!
BORING! Zzzzzzzz
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bergil
12/02/2004
09:12:11
[ report this post ] | What he said
Message:
Hurry up and move you White monkeys. Only black can take forever to play. c6!! get that up ya like a dog in heat
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apastpawn
12/03/2004
09:20:58
[ report this post ] | Your wish is my command !
Message:
Okay we moved in a little over 27 hours.
Golly - c6 what a move. You don't think we are going to allow d5 without a fight do you. Our pawn takes at e4 super defends d5. Again all the developement seems to be white sided. Could it be your choice of openings?
Lets see how fast it takes you black bozos to respond as Xmas is fast approaching. A quick BxN is expected. Wonder if you can find anything better?
apastpawn, WWA/Supreme Latvian Vanguishers
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bergil
12/03/2004
10:02:03
[ report this post ] | well duh
Message:
Yes Bxc3, that is the most obvious move. Even your lot, what could only pass for a last resort of desperate flees and lice can gibber that one out. So to all of you I say "White monkeys I fart in your general direction" As I am pure of heart, it will not be unlike the perfume of a rose.
Good day to you all.
Bergil "Proletarian hero to peoples of the world"
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abegtrup
12/06/2004
14:42:42
[ report this post ] | Let's stop and smell the roses...
Message:
Ten moves in after two-and-a-half months - I blame the White Warrior Alliance for rushing
things...
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 f5
3. Nxe5 Qf6
4. Nc4 fxe4
5. Nc3 Qf7
6. Ne3 Nf6
7. Bc4 Qg6
8. d3 Bb4
9. Bd2 c6
10. dxe4 Bxc3
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abegtrup
12/14/2004
19:18:55
[ report this post ] | Silent night...
Message:
All is calm, all is bright...
The White Alliance is very quite.
Could it be that we've scared them into silence?
(or perhaps just bored them to tears?)
11. Bxc3 Nxe4
12. ???
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apastpawn
12/17/2004
11:20:15
[ report this post ] | 12. the best move Qd4
Message:
We may be predictable but you have to play the best moves.
For all you Bobby Fischer fans and the ancient ones on the Pawn Star team, the following may take you down memory lane.
The game to date:
1. P-K4___P-K4
2. N-KB3__P-KB4
3. NxP____Q-Kb3
4. QN-N4__PxP
5. N-QB3__Q-KB2
6. N-K3___N-KB3
7. B-QB4__Q-KN3
8. P-Q3___B-QN5
9. B-Q2___P-QB3
10.PxP____BxN
11.BxB____NxP
12.Q-Q4
Hope that cleared things up.
Will expect the Black Packers to reply by Valintine's day.
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apastpawn
12/20/2004
21:46:12
[ report this post ] | 12.....Nxc3
Message:
Bet you blackies overlooked a Zugzwang type inbetween move. On behave of that oversight and the 50th post, I present the following:
Silent Knight, Lonely Knight
All is calm, none are bright.
Round yon Bergil the wild.
Abegtrup so tense and defiled.
Sleep in Latvian peice
Sleep in Latvian peice
Silent Knight, Lonely Knight
The pack quakes at the fight.
Glories stream from GameKnot afar.
White Alliance sings Alleluia!
Black Pack's game is done
Black Pack's game is done
Silent Knight, Lonely Knight
Initiative gone, packs not right
Failed to develope in haste
with no way of saving face.
Latvian a poor gambit
Latvian a poor gambit
Silent Knight, Lonely Knight
Pawn Stars lend no light
Apastpawn and Pandemona sing,
Alleluia! Whites the king.
Checkmate will come
Checkmate will come
P.S. Abegtrup, its okay not to acknowledge that I past you again in the Elo ratings by 20 points. I will even forgive you if you don't mention that I beat you to 2000.
Wanna race to 2100?
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abegtrup
12/22/2004
22:29:56
[ report this post ] | Thread continues at...
Message:
Pawntification: White #2
gameknot.com/fmsg/chess5/1908.shtml
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